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592.1 | What are the goals? | TOOK::SWEET | | Tue Feb 02 1988 09:31 | 7 |
| What are the goals of these meeting's? With the cut backs, is seems
like they would never go back to non emergency towing when they
don't have enough patrols as it is. I for one, experienced the
fate of having a commercial tow service instead of the CG, cost me
200 clams.
Bruce
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592.2 | Tell DOT what you want. | CIMNET::CREASER | SUPER STRING | Tue Feb 02 1988 15:31 | 23 |
| Many have question the wisdom of the policy especially as it applies
to the Coast Guard Auxiliary. The data on the Auxiliary's performance
indicates that it is a very cost effective program. The main strengths
being education and Saftey Patrols.
The Auxiliary membership ungoes extensive training which combines
classroom studies and practical exercises. The continued proficiency
of Auxiliary boat crews is very dependant on a third element, that
of actual SAR and non-emergency assistance experience.
It is very ironic to me that we have new missions being imposed
on the Coast Guard (drugs and intoxicated boats, etc.), restrictions
on Auxiliary utilization (towing policy) and reduced budgets all
working at the same time.
This is of course only a personal opinion, but I believe we don't
need to look very far to find the source of this mess. The Coast
Guard is attached (reluctantly) to the Department of Transportation!
Talk about an orphan in our own home!
Jerry
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592.3 | TOWING SERVICE | REGENT::BURBINE | | Wed Feb 03 1988 09:07 | 21 |
| re: < Note 592.2 by CIMNET::CREASER "SUPER STRING" >
I support Jerry in that the Coast Guard Aux should be allowed to
tow in non emergency situations since they are out there on a
voluntary basis and really do make a difference.
I do not support that the Coast Guard tow on a non emergency
basis.
There are several options available to all of us should we break
down and need a tow.
1. SeaTow-- Pay them like an insurance policy and they tow you
when you need it. Kind of like AAA for cars.
2. Boat US--For very few dollars you get up to $1500
reimbursment when you use a commercial tow operator.
3."Buddies"--Most anyone will tow someone else as a good
samaritan.
Any comments?
norm
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592.4 | vote NO on rip-offs | USRCV1::FRASCH | | Tue Mar 22 1988 09:50 | 18 |
| I believe the C.G. policy is to give a tow to a commercial operator
ONLY if an Auxiliary vessel is not available. Also, once the Aux
has a tow, they do not have to give it up to a commercial operator.
My major concern is the training level of the commercial guys. None
is required! I wouldn't want some yea-hoo ripping the cleats out
of my boat, or worse, simply because of not knowing how to handle
a tow properly. The AUX guys go through an extensive training program
to even be able to be on the water to help.
I believe the policy was set up to handle larger "commercial" disabled
vessels. No problem with that, but the gold diggers are turning
it on us small guys. If it happens to me, I'll simply tell them
to get lost and wait for some good guy to help. If the commercial
guys don't get our business, they will go somewhere else.
Don
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592.5 | Commercial is the first choice! | CIMNET::CREASER | SUPER STRING | Tue Mar 22 1988 11:37 | 24 |
| Re .4
Don, your message hit the spirit of the issue very well! However,
I'd like to revise for first paragraph.
The towing policy is very clear on these points.
1. In non-emergency cases, the Auxiliary follows the same rules
as the regular Coast Guard. If commercial service is available,
we will stand-by until the commerical tower has the situation
under control. This is true even if AUX is available.
2. The will be a hand-off from AUX to commerical if conditions
permit. This is required to keep AUX and Coast Guard vessels
freed up as much as possible for emergencies and other duties.
The controling Coast Guard Station will make the decision
on the hand-off, but will also do so if safety is not reduced.
Of course all this only applies if the Auxiliary Vessel is operating
under Coast Guard orders. If operating as private citizens then
we can help in any case.
Jerry
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592.6 | right on! | USRCV1::FRASCH | | Wed Apr 13 1988 10:17 | 9 |
| Jerry,
You are right!! However be sure to report it as an "assist" even if
you don't complete the case.
Again, we don't have the problem here yet as there ar no commercial
guys operating.
Regards
Don
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