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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

574.0. "Ice Fishing Tips" by SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGE () Mon Jan 11 1988 13:26

    I have a few questions on tip ups. I decided not to vegetate all
    winter inside reading fishing mags and watching fishing shows on
    the tube, cleaning out my tackle box....etc. 
          This weekend I bit the bullet and picked up some ice
    paraphanalia. I bought just one tip up to start and some ice jigs.
    The tip up is a Polar Windless. My question here is will the line
    have a problem with freezing since the spool is out of the water?
    I do not see many of this type out on the ice. What is the general
    concensus here. What should I purchase for my next 4 tip ups? I
    used green nylon line. Why would the manufacturer recommend black?
    Any other "tips"? 
                         The ice was black on the pond I fished this
    weekend. It was very erie. I used inch and half minnows for bait
    and an ice jigging rod at the other hole. I'd like to hear some tips
    from the icemen out there.
    
    Waiting for my first one through the ice.........NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~
          
    One thing for sure, the beer stays cold!
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574.1MPGS::NEALMon Jan 11 1988 13:4111
    Is that "Poler Windlass" the type that jigs the bait if there is
    wind? Arn't they about $13? I use the traditional tip-up in the
    large (tall) size so that you can see the tip-up when there is a
    lot of snow on the ice. Anyway, back to the line foo your rig. I
    think mabee they want the line to be black absorb the suns rays
    so you dont have a problem with freezing. I would think that if
    it is real cold and you do try to rewind the line after it has been
    dunked it would freeze. Let us know how you make out with that 
    fancy unit. 
    
    Rich
574.2TIP-UPS PHENIX::PLANTMon Jan 11 1988 15:0511
    I JUST GOT ONE [ POLAR WINDLESS ] FOR CHRISTMAS AND THE DRAW BACK
    IS THE FLAG IS NOT TALL ENOUGH .IT WORKS FINE WITH LITTLE DRAG.
    
     I HAVE 15 TALL TIP-UPS 5 SPARES, 5 FOR TROUT, 5 FOR PIKE,BASS.
    ITS A LOT OF FUN BUT, WATCH OUT FOR THE GAME WARDENS,EACH YEAR 
    I SEE MORE & MORE EVERY YEAR. THEY DON T LIKE EMTRY S 
    
        ANY OTHER QUESTION SEND REPLY TO PHENIX::LYTTLE 
    
    
    
574.3HIGH TECH TIP-UPSSCOMAN::BACZKOMon Jan 11 1988 17:0513
      I tried one of those high tech jiggers once, I didn't have much
    luck, but they do work if the wind is right, it took me a while
    to get it set right.  I recommend the standard tip ups, I call them
    "HIGH FLIERS" they have the words  40 UP on the flags.  They work
    great in deep snow and when you set them far apart (like I do).
    They have some FREEZE PROOF line in the BP catalog, I got it on
    my jiggin rod, it is plastic coated and it works, at least so far
    (2 years).   
      BTW  Last saturday they got a 39 1/4" 18lb. PIKE out of the Quaboag
    and I saw a 31" come out of Brimfield this saturday.   Things are
    startin to pick up.
    
    Les
574.4A tip up for all occationsRANGLY::OKERHOLM_PAUFri Jan 15 1988 12:4020
    	I don't have any personal experience with the Windlas traps
    but last year I went to an ice fishing workshop at L.L. Beans and
    the speaker didn't recommend them. He said they freeze up quite
    often. ( Of course we were talking ice fishing in Maine. Freeze
    up may be less of a problem in other states.) 
    	I've had good luck with most other types including Continental, 
    Moosehead and Thompson. Polar traps(?) (H shaped plastic base with
    spring based flag pole.) from the same company making the windlas 
    type are also good because of their light release but their low 
    profile is a draw back. My personal preference is for fairly tall 
    conventional traps (X shaped pieces across the hole with a vertical 
    piece holding the spool and flag.) in plastic. The flags are *BRIGHT* 
    dayglow orange and the plastic seems to hold up well in the cold.
    The tallness and bright flag give excellent visibility.
    	Ice fishing is a good way to pass the Winter. Its kind of laid
    back and you don't have to take it too seriously. I think you will
    like it.
    
    Paul
    	
574.5Any PikeMPGS::NEALMon Jan 18 1988 08:147
Any one out there had any luck Pike fishing through the ice this year?

So far we havn't caught anything for pike. As a matter of fact, I haven't
seen anyone near us pull one through the ice yet. We do hear the stories;
"Oh ya, this guy got a 15 lb pike yesterday......" 

Rich 
574.6No pike yet.ADVAX::ALLINSONMon Jan 18 1988 10:5510
    
    
    Re .5
    
             Rich,I saw two Tiger muskies come out of Lake Cochituate
             this weekend but they were only at the two foot mark.
             We are taking bass in shallow coves 3' of water.
    
    
                                         " The Idea man"
574.7Yes, Pike in RIMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUMon Jan 18 1988 11:2918
    
    RE:  .3
    
    Rich,
    
    I got one small Pike along with two pickerell (sp?) yesterday at
    Echo Lake in northern RI.  I did see a 10 pound pike taken also
    by a guy fishing about 100 yrd from me.  So I guess they are biting.
    We were using 3-4 inch shiners.
    
    The Harbor Master.
    
    PS: Next weekend I'm heading back up to Wallum Lake to try my luck
    with some of those 5-10 lb salmon.  Last week one guy got two 5-6
    pounders and one 8 pounder through the ice at Carbunkle Pond.
    
    
    
574.8FIRST FISH THROUGH THE ICE!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGETue Jan 19 1988 10:5915
    HEY , I MIGHT CATCH YOU AT WALLUM. I AM IN FULL SWING NOW AND GOT
    5 MORE TIP UPS, HIGH ONES. I BELIEVE I HAVE THE SYSTEM DOWN NOW
    WITH "SOUNDING" FOR PROPER DEPTH, USING "BUTTONS" FOR MARKING IT
    AND SO ON. ***I ALSO PULLED MY FIRST FISH THROUGH THE ICE THIS PAST
    WEEKEND!!! TWO BASS. NOT HUGE BUT A GREAT THRILL WHEN THAT FLAG
    WENT! I AM HOOKED. 
                    A TIP I HAVE NOT TRIED YET ON THE POLAR HIGH TECH
    WINDLESS......IF YOU PUT A BIT OF CORN OIL IN THE WATER IN THE HOLE
    IT KEEPS THE LINE FROM FREEZING SINCE IT IS OUT OF THE WATER. I
    GOT THIS TIP FROM THE "FIN AND FEATHER" BAIT SHOP IN UPTON MASS.
    
    SPRING DOES NOT SEEM SO FAR AWAY NOW THAT I'M FISHING AGAIN!
    ICE TOURNEY ANYONE??
                                           NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~~~~~~~~`
    
574.9HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Jan 19 1988 12:2118
    HAY NIGHTCRAWLER glad to see you injoying it!
    
    One Question: Why do they call those tilts windless?   Is it becasue
    the wind can't blow them up?  
    
    If you have a problem with the wind.  this trick is good to know.
    Always determin the wind direction.  Then place your tilt so the
    wind blows the flag on the hook, peg or whatever it is on, insted
    of off.
                     ---> wind     flag
                                   |   |
    				---�---|
                                       |
    
    Does that picture maek sense??
    
    Bassin Bob who got a limit of small mouths over 2lbs last saturday!
    
574.10Windless, and were are the smalliesMPGS::NEALTue Jan 19 1988 12:5214
    RE .9,
    
    	Bob, The name windless is a poor name for them. What they do
    with the wind is jig you bait. There is a arm that moves up and
    down in the wind, your line is attached the arm which intern jigs
    your bait. Neat idea, but your spool is out of the water and there
    are complaints about the line freezing.
    
    	Ok, now what is the deal with the smallies? How deep where you
    fishing, and how big was the bait? If you dont mind that is. I never
    did fish for them before. But I think I might give it a try at the
    local smallmouth pond.
    
    Rich
574.11*** RE: .8 ***MARCIE::UPRTue Jan 19 1988 13:125
     HEY NIGHTCRAWLER,
                      If your interested in tourneys, check out note:
     # 566. We have a good thing going here so give one of us a call.
    
                                                    TOM....
574.12Jiggen-for-Giants...PVAX::STEVEVANTue Jan 19 1988 16:317
    Just wonderin if any of you ice fishermen/woman out there use a
    runnin flag on your tip-ups.. The reason I asked is I saw this guy
    using runnin flags and it helped him catch the fish that hit, He
    just watched the flag and when it stopped flappen he set the hook.
    I was thinkin of trying this on mine but just thought i'de ask if
    anyone out there had used runnin flags before....
    
574.13WINDLASS, FRIEND OF THE WINDSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWed Jan 20 1988 08:5020
           THANKS FOR THE TIP BOB. RICH IS RIGHT. ACTUALLY THE THE NAME
    IS "WINDLASS". IT DOES DEPEND ON WIND TO JIG FOR YOU. YOU CAN BEND
    THE METAL "FLAG" TO INCREASE ACTION AND POSISTION AS DESIRED. IT
    IS A NICE SUBSTITUTE FOR HAND JIGGING. ALSO IF YOU USE MINNOWS IT
    KEEPS THEM ACTIVE AND NOT IN ONE SPOT. YOU CAN MAKE A RIG THAT CONSISTS
    OF A SMALL PIECE OF WOOD WITH A PIECE OF PVC THROUGH IT THAT YOU
    CAN FLOAT IN THE HOLE YOU CUT. POUR MINERAL OIL OR CORN OIL, ABOUT
    2 CAP FULLS INTO THE SMALL PVC PIPE AND RUN YOUR LINE THROUGH IT.
    THIS IS SUPPOSED TO STOP IT FROM FREEZING IF YOU HAVE THAT PROBLEM.
      I HAVE NOT HAD A PROBLEM AS YET. I WONDER IF JUST ADDING SOME
    OIL TO THE LINE ON THE SPOOL MIGHT WORK. REGARDLESS , IT'S A NEAT
    WAY TO USE JIGS WITHOUT MUCH EFFORT ALONG WITH TRAPS RIGGED WITH
    SHINNERS.
                     21LBS OF SMALLIES?? WHERE/HOW? FROM THE ICE?
    BOB, HAVE YOU FISHED LAKE SINGLETARY IN MILLBURY? I HAVE HAD SUCCESS
    WITH SMALLIES THERE ON JIG N PIGS.
    
                        NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~ NO LONGER DREADING ICE IN!
    
574.14COLORS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Wed Jan 20 1988 09:449
    Hey, nightcrawler, we know how much you *love* UPPERCASE, but please
    try and hit the caps lock button off once in awhile.....
    
    I was out on the ice Sunday and between 3 of us, we got 3 perch
    (which I ate, good eating) and one bass which was released...
    
    Not a bad way to spend a nice winter afternoon...
    
    donmac (who'd still rather see ice-out)
574.15HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysWed Jan 20 1988 11:2227
    .10 > How big was the bait in how much water
    
    Well  we used smalls, med, med heavy and large, best results were
    on the med.  As for the depth we were running along an edge of a
    drop off.  The tilts on the top and just over seem to be the best.
    The ones that were on the flat or in the deep caught mostly perch
    and pickeral but the biggest smallie was caught in the deepest hole.
    
    depth ranged from 10 feet on the flat to 10 at the end of the drop.
    
    As for a place there is no public access, we had to cut throw this
    3rd partys yard.  They have a lot of problems with ice fisherman
    so I was asked not to tell anyone.  Sorry :^(
    
    .12> running flags
    
    Well as your self one question what kind of fish am I fishing for,
     those big pike that will not feel a little tap tap tap on the line
    or trout that will drop the bait when it feels anything not normal?
    
    I used to us running flags but stoped.  We you fish for trout and
    even bass the flag keeps putting the tripper back to the spool.
    So as a fish pulls he gets a jerky tap tap tap as the spool turns.
    I prefer a free spool with no resistance.
    
    BASSIN' BOB
    
574.16DARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Jan 20 1988 12:426
    
    Just a thought.....
    
    Do any of you think that there is enough oil in FISH FORMULA ect
    to stop the freeze?  and would there be a benefit?
    
574.17HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysWed Jan 20 1988 13:378
    HAY BDW WHAT HAPPENDED MONDAY!!!!
    
    I once tried fish formula through the ice!!  it does not freeze
    but it is very slimmy.  You think it is hard to get off you hands
    in the summer !!!!!
    
    bbp
    
574.18ice derby in lower caseSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWed Jan 20 1988 13:448
    Fine DonMac,
                  lower case then.... I just found out about two more
    ice derbys not mentioned in note 566. One is at fort meadow resorvior
    in Marlboro, Feb. 14th sponsored by Marlboro Bassmasters. The other
    is Lajke Quinsigamond Feb. 21st. It is a benefit derby for the Boy
    Scouts. If anyone has interest I'd be glad to put the details in
    a note. 
                        in lower case.....nightcrawler~~~~~~
574.19DARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Jan 20 1988 15:5014
    
    Hey BASSIN BOB.. How'd you do on Monday?
    
    re .16 & .17
    
    Let me clarify.
    
    I was thinking that instead of using a capfull of corn oil to keep
    the line from freezing,  could you use a fish stink to keep the
    line from freezing?  And would there be any benefit?
    
    TBDW
    
    OH yeh, Thanks for the support Don Mac.  
574.20how do find ledges under ice?SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEWed Jan 20 1988 22:524
    BASSIN' BOB,
                   You talked of ledges and drop offs....... are you
    using a hand held depth finder? 
                                         Nightcrawler~~~~~~~
574.21Remember???MPGS::NEALThu Jan 21 1988 06:2010
    Yo Nightcrawler, Go way back in your memory bank and try to remember
    how deep the water was when there was no ice. It stays the same
    during the winter. If you are going to someplace you never been
    before, look at the lay of the land. If there is a hill at the edge
    of the water, chances are that it drops off quickly. If the land
    is flat then it is probably a gradual drop off. Have you invested
    the 50 cents for a depth sounder yet? That will give an indication
    on how deep it is and how quick it drops off.
    
    Rich
574.22.21 said it allHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Jan 21 1988 08:409
    
    .20 > hand held depth sonar
    
    .21 hit the nail on the head.  Just from past experiences lots of
    luck and looking for things in the ice like last place to freeze
    may be deepest stop!
    
    Bassin Bob
    
574.23I KNOW A BUICK WHEN I SEE ONESCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEThu Jan 21 1988 22:0415
    RE: 21 ( sarcastic as it was )
    RE: 22
              I like to fish areas I have not been before and as you
    well know the outside "lay of the land" is not always a good judge
    of bottom structure. It acts as a good rule of thumb however.      
              It also is not uncommon for people who seriously ice fish
    to use hand held depth finders. Read this months fishing facts.
    They have a special section on ICE. I was curious if you found the
    ledge this way Bob. I take it you cored several holes to locate
    it?
           YO Rich, Ya I invested the 50 cents. Oh ya, I can tell flat
    land, hills, points, sand, gravel, brush, and Buicks apart too!!
             It's the ICE that is new to me.
                                                      nightcrawler~~~~~~
              
574.24Fishing Facts?MPGS::NEALFri Jan 22 1988 06:486
Re.23	Sarcastic??? ME??? Noooo Couldnt be.
    
    	What are the "fishing facts" anyway? What is a handheld depth
    	finder?
    
    Rich
574.25are u kiddin?FEISTY::TOMASJoeFri Jan 22 1988 08:027
>>    	What is a handheld depth finder?
    



	   The opposite of a NON-HANDHELD depth finder, dummy!

574.26MPGS::NEALFri Jan 22 1988 09:061
re.25	Thankyou for that information.
574.27jam it in the iceSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEFri Jan 22 1988 09:288
    Fishing facts is a mag I get. I think it is quite good. It does
    not limit its articles to bass, but to a variety of freshwater
    fish.
         Hand held is the word. You just jam the finder into the water
    through the hole! Interesting but I'll stick to a sounder. 
    
                                                   Nightcrawler~~~~~~~
    
574.28Hey you perchjerkers!!ADVAX::ALLINSONFri Jan 22 1988 11:4515
    
    
            Before ewe guys get out of hand,try a portable depth finder.
            Hand- held? Sounds like a perch?jerker to me.Rig your
            depthfinder from your boat with a 12 volt battery and set
            the transducer in the water at a hole or you can take a
            little anti-freeze and put a dab on the ice and your finder
            can see right through.Many people use these for locating
            perch and kivers also used for locating smelt schools to
            catch lakers and salmon.Find baitfish and you can catch
            more fish with no guess work.
    
    
                                                  The Keg
     
574.29DARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Jan 25 1988 14:4913
    
    Well, I caught my first fish through the ice.........
    
    A WHOOPER Pickeral....
    
    Don't believe the Nightcrawler, he was to far away to tell how big
    it was!
    
    I suppose I'm SEMI hooked
    
    TBDW
    
    
574.30PNEUMONIA FISHIN'!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEMon Jan 25 1988 22:4210
    Ya I was a ways off BTW, and I did have a few beers but one thing
    is for sure you did pull a mother through the ice. I just could
    not understand you hopping all around all the time! Was it
    the beer, or the wind!? I was on the ice at 7am the next day. I
    believe I am a sick man. I fished meadow pond. Sat. a 7 1/4 Bass
    and two 5 1/2 pickeral were taken. I caught one crappie and pneumonia!
                        
                         use a sounder not your keys!
                                                       NIGHTCRAWWLER~~~~~~~
    
574.31Landlocked thru the IceMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUThu Jan 28 1988 11:4820
    
    
    I need some advice on the best depth for ice fishing for landlocked
    salmon.  I'll be using a 5 tp 6 foot 10# mono leader with small
    to medium size shiners.  I've been told than unlike lake trout,
    that tend to be in the deepest holes, the salmon will still be found
    at relatively shallow depths... is this true?
    
    I'll be heading up to Wallum Lake this sunday to try my luck and
    get "tuned-up" for the super bowl.  Sure would like to pull in a
    couple of those 4 - 10 lb landlocks that should still be left from
    last Nov stocking.
    
    Any info would be appreciated.
    
    Thanks
    
    The HARBOR MASTER
    
    
574.32Landlocked SalmonRANGLY::OKERHOLM_PAUThu Jan 28 1988 12:279
    Harbor Master,
    	When fishing for Landlocked Salmon I fish right under the ice.
    I like to use 3' leaders and I seldom put more than 3' of line down
    the hole. They seem to be located anywhere in the lake except real
    shallow areas (under 10' deep). I use small bait for Trout, medium
    for Salmon and large for Bass etc.
    
    I hope this helps.
    Paul
574.33ThanksMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUThu Jan 28 1988 13:258
    
    
    Thanks for the tip on using shorter leaders and for confirming 
    fishing the top for salmon.  I'm also going to try Berkley's
    Salmon scent on my jigging lures.  Let you know how I make out.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
574.34DARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardThu Jan 28 1988 15:2911
    
    Hey HARBOR MASTER....., Let's try to goad the FAT MAN NEAL to go
    with us again.  Or how about the NIGHTCRAWLER?  The NIGHTCRAWLER
    is OK as long as he doesn't bring that dam homeade beer.

    
    TBDW
    
    Does anyone have a battery powered TV that we can barrow so that
    as we are catching the rest of the fish in Wallem, we can watch
    the Super BOWL?
574.35Could be a pre-super bowl partyMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUThu Jan 28 1988 15:5716
    
    
    So the Nightcrawler brings homemade beer..........
    
         I'ld better hide my pickled eggs an' lambs tongue  ;^)
    
    OK... how 'bout it Capt. Neal.  And for the worm, if you say he's
    allright bring him along.   
    
    Will we need two quarts of whiskey?
    
    
    The Harbor "hick-up"  Master  8*)
     
    
    
574.36Pickled Brains and Numb Tongue!SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEThu Jan 28 1988 16:146
     I might be up for another case of pnemonia. What the hell. When
    are we fishin? How about the morning? I'll bring along some of that
    HOMEBREW! that TBW likes so much. Have you regained your eyesight
    yet TBW or are you "still blind?" 
                                          NIGHTCRAWLER~~~~
    
574.37MOSAIC::BEAUDREAUFri Jan 29 1988 10:3218
    
    
    Nightworm,
    
    TBDW and I haven't set a meeting time yet.  But I'm not that much
    of an early riser, so 10:30 seems the earliest time to meet.  Are
    You familiar with the Hospital area?   Thats where the salmon were
    stocked, so I figure we should start setting up tilts within a 1/2
    mile radius from the state (RI) access road that borders the north 
    side of the hospital grounds.  
    
    It's suppoed to be close to 50 deg. this weekend :^)  :^)  :^)
    
    Lets here from TBDW.
    
    
    The Harbor Master
    
574.38DARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardFri Jan 29 1988 10:5513
    
    TBDW here......
    
    10:30 sounds gude two me.
    
    Since the NIGHTCRAWLER appears to have Diarrea of the fingers, perhaps
    we should reconsider the invite.  What if he has diarrea of the
    every thing else.  I know his beer will produce Severe, Magnum squirts
    and of course blindness.  
    
    Yeh sure, TWINS
    
    
574.39exSCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGEFri Jan 29 1988 13:572
     I'll wing it.
                       Nightcrawler~~~~
574.40SalmonMPGS::NEALMon Feb 01 1988 07:3118
    Sorry I missed out on this one. I was out thurs and fri. How did
    you make out? Its a little late but when ice fishing for BIG fish
    the most important thing to do is keep your line in order when playing
    the fish in. Its nice if your buddy (If you have one) keeps your
    line in order while you play the fish. What you will find is the
    fish will see the hole and decide that he is not going through it.
    In the mean time he might take all the line you just pulled up plus
    some. That can happen in a hurry so you need to be ready. If the
    line gets stuck on the ice the mono will snap real quick. 
    
    Salmon will swim just under the ice and/or be suspended over a deep
    hole as mentioned before. 
    
    Oh BTW, if you happen to hook onto a salmon like TBDW did at wallum
    you dont have to worry about all that line crap. They dont fight
    anyway. :-)
    
    Rich 
574.41Serious Replies only please.CADSE::GUERTINMon Feb 01 1988 07:3819
    Only serious helpful information need relpy.
    
    
    	Question 1: When ice fishing for bass. Do bass tend to go into
    the deeper water or do they stay in the shallows? (I.E. deep water
    = > 20ft, shallow = < 20 ft. very shallow = < 10 ft.
    
    	Question 2: Using the same depth rangers as above, how about
    lake trout?
    
    	Question 3a: How about cusk?
    
    	Question 3b: What bait is commonly used for cusk? Dead shiners,
    cut pieces of fish (perch), worms, hot dogs, others....?
    
    Thanks for your replies in advance.
    
    Ed (get_the_net_ready)
    		
574.42Salmonless SundayMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUMon Feb 01 1988 09:5027
    
    
    Got skunked at Wallum Lake this past Sunday.  That makes me 0 for
    3 ( 2 times on water, 1 thru the ice) fishing for landlocked salmon
    on Wallum  8*(  .   The ice was 12 to 16 inches thick and my new
    10" hand auger made nice holes.  Sunday was the warmest day if fished
    sinces Fall !
    
    There were a lot of guys on the ice, but by mid-afternoon many were
    leaving due to the slow action.  A group of guys next to me had
    21 tilts set up and I only saw them get 2 flags and 0 fish.  One
    guy leaving also said he got skunked, but his buddy got a nice 
    3 lb. brown trout earlier in the morning.  
    
    Had trouble with my shiners... they lasted about only 20 to 30 minutes
    in the water and bellied-up on me.  They were probably weak when
    I bought them.
    
    That's all for now.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
    
    Oh yeah, hey TBDW, what's your mail stop.... I'll send you the $5
    you won on our super bowl bet.  8^( 
    
     
574.43JAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Feb 03 1988 12:407
    
    The HARBOR MASTER got skunked!
    
    TBDW didn't!!  I caught at least one fish on Sunday!  Where is my
    five bucks Beaudreau.
    
    
574.44Please, any replies.CADSE::GUERTINWed Feb 03 1988 13:458
    Re. 574.41
    
    	I was only kidding about serious replies only. Can anyone out
    there shed some light on the questions about different depths for
    different fish. And what about what kind of bait to use for catching
    cusk?
    
    Ed (get_the_net_ready)
574.45The fin is is the mailMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUWed Feb 03 1988 14:1612
    
    
    RE: .43
         
    
    Hey TBDW,  I'm good for it.  I'll laser scan the $5 and send it
    via VAXmail.  Isn't technology wonderful.  ;^)
    
    See you Friday at the Centrum.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
574.46Reply to .41MTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAUWed Feb 03 1988 16:5625
    Re .41
    
    	I'm no expert on the kind of fishing that you are asking about
    but since no one else has answered I'll try.
    
    	Cusk - Here in Maine Cusk fishing is done at night with dead
    bait fished right on the bottom. I am told that they are scavengers
    and will eat about anything, so maybe the hot dog is not too far
    fetched.
    
    	Bass - The little Bass fishing that I have done through the
    ice seems to inicate that they like the edges and drop offs.I'd
    guess most of my success has been in water between 10 & 20' deep.
    I fish a few feet off the bottom. What I do if I am in a new area 
    is bring the kids so I can set up lots of traps. I then string the 
    traps out over a large area to determine whats happening. If I get
    any action I concentrate on the productive areas.
    
    	Lake Trout - I think they are found in deep water near the bottom
    even in the winter.
    
    	As I stated this is not my area of expertice, but I think the
    info is not too far off. Hope this helps.
    
    Paul
574.47Thanks, any more feedback?CADSE::GUERTINThu Feb 04 1988 06:5810
    Thanks re.-1. 
    
    Any hints are helpful at this point. Since I'll be
    fishing on a lake trout lake, I'll only have two tip ups in use.
    I want to make the best guess placement as I can. I done want to
    be skunked the whole weekend.
    
    Are there any other volunteers for hints on this subject?
    
    Ed- (get_the_net_ready)
574.48Lake TroutMPGS::NEALThu Feb 04 1988 09:3313
    Ed, There is some good info in note 528. In addition to that;
    Depending upon the time of year the Lakers could be at differant
    depths. As it is getting nearer to ice out the lakers start getting
    up off the bottom, well not all of them. Your in a tuff situation 
    with only 2 tip-ups, but to make the best of them see how your 
    neighbors are doing and at what depth their getting them if they
    are getting them. Dont be afraid to move to a new location if the
    one your using does not produce. The best bait(s) for Lakers are
    smelt #1 and suckers #2. You might even want to try dead bait. A
    laker dont want to work to hard to get the bait.
    
    Hope that was of some help
    Rich 
574.49winni update CREDIT::LAVASHSame as it ever was...Mon Feb 08 1988 09:3815
    FWIW - I was up at the Winni Derby this weekend and fished at
    various depths for Lake Trout.  The only luck I had was at about
    75-80 ft.  I tried from 35-80 ft and only had strikes on the deeper
    holes.  As for my luck, I only caught 3 lakers, all of them under 18
    inches.  But I didn't see anyone around me Sat or Sunday catch a fish.

    I was using smelt on 6-8 ft 15lb mono leaders, 2 ft off the bottom.
    I tried Meredith bay and just off Rattlesnake Island.

    The reason I use 15lb leaders is last year with an 8lb leader I had
    a large fish break off near the hole. (don't we all :-))

    George

574.50Auger DecisionsCASV05::PRESTONBetter AI than none at allMon Dec 05 1988 12:3533
    Gentlemen (who, us? yeah, you!), I have just been told by a family
    member that I will be given $50 to buy myself a nice ice-auger as a 
    Christmas present! Well, looks like I'm almost in business, eh?
    
    Of course, the question that remains is, which one to buy? My
    impression is that Mora makes about the best (lets face it, those
    Swedes build good stuff), and I've found a place that has a couple
    of 8" and one 10". The 8's are $47.95 and the 10 is $49.95. Do I
    get the 10" because it's a good deal (only 2 bucks more) or do I
    get an 8" because drilling with a 10" requires Arnold Schwartzenegger
    on the other end?
    
    Bass Pro sells 6" and 7" augers for only $29.95, but one of you
    guys said at one time that less than 8" is too small (oh brother,
    I'm glad nightee is gone..!) Anyhow, for the price of the Bass Pro
    auger, I can get an ice chisel, too.
    
    The big decision is: Do I get a possibly too small Bass Pro auger
    with an ice chisel, or quit being a chiseller and get the more
    expensive Mora (good Swedish steel) and if so, the 8" or the 10"?
    (I'm not exactly Arnold, but I'm 6' 195lb, so probably *could* turn
    a 10" auger well enough - famous last words??)
    
    So, all suggestions and advice gratefully received (but hurry, I
    want to be READY!!)
    
    Thanks,
    
    Seargeant Preston of the Frozen North...
     
    
    
    
574.51good exercise anywayRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsMon Dec 05 1988 12:468
    I'd hate to have to have to manually crank a 10"er through real thick
    ice...  I went with a small one last year, it's either 6 or 8" Mora
    (don't recall the exact size at the moment) - for the ice fishing
    that I do it's fine.  However most of my ice fishing consists or
    perch jerkin and smelting.  If your after big northerns, then you
    may want a 10 incher. (or better yet a big gas job!)

    donmac
574.52Work?PSYCHE::BEAUDREAUMon Dec 05 1988 13:488
    
    
    	Get the 10" Mora and sharpen before each use.  Shure, it's a
    little more work than using a 6" or 8" unit, but I agree with Don
    Mac it's good excercise during couch potato season.
    
    Harbormaster
    
574.53dir/key=iceRAINBO::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsThu Dec 15 1988 09:1018
    Here's an ice fishing tips note, and there's a few others as well:
    (and your welcome to start another if you'd like)
                                                                          
    26  TRACTR::DOWNS        10-SEP-1985     2  NH. Ice Fishing
    34  AKOV03::NELSON       19-NOV-1985    12  ICE FISHERS
    65  MIGHTY::DILSWORTH     4-FEB-1986     4  Ice Fishing in N.H.
   214   AIMHI::TOMAS         3-NOV-1986    61  WINTER'S COMING...ICE TIME!
   240  TRACTR::DOWNS        27-JAN-1987     4  First Day Out!
   528  JUNIOR::WLODYKA      13-NOV-1987    16  TILT CONFIGURATION
   534  SPMFG1::SCAGBOB      20-NOV-1987    37  Ice fishing time is near
   540   FISHN::GOODY         1-DEC-1987     2  ..Thin-Ice depression....
   546   ADVAX::ALLINSON     15-DEC-1987    28  Ice auger blade sharpening????
   560  TOMCAT::MIKE         28-DEC-1987     6  ICE FISHING....
   565  VLSBOS::RADICIONI     4-JAN-1988    19  HOW THICK IS THE ICE ???
   574  SCOMAN::WOOLDRIDGE   11-JAN-1988    52  Help with ice fighing. Any tips?
   580  COLORS::MACINTYRE    14-JAN-1988     5  Shanties/Bobhouses
   588    MPGS::NEAL         26-JAN-1988    10  Ice Fishing anyone???
   611  TRACTR::DOWNS        29-FEB-1988     7  Ice Cracking Noise, Affect On Fish???
574.54point me to the lakeCASV01::PRESTONBetter AI than none at allTue Dec 20 1988 12:3414
    Just to let you guys know, I picked up a 10" Mora at Herman's in
    Nashua for $38.99. I could have gotten the 8" model for $4 less,
    but, since I plan to fish the Winni Derby, I'd hate to lose just
    because the hole was too small!
    
    Also, I checked out the blades' sharpness - yow! you could almost
    shave with them! I slid one of those magazine inserts across it
    and, scrrrittchh! a neat slice right down the middle!
    
    Ed
    
    P.S. Waldron's is selling the same auger for $49.95, marked down
    from $55.00