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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

539.0. "Salmon in Wallum Lake" by MOSAIC::BEAUDREAU () Mon Nov 30 1987 15:37

    
    RI just stocked 125 landlock solmon in Wallum Lake, which is located
    half in MA and RI and accessible through the Douglas State Park.
    
    The salmon are suppose to range from 3 to 10 lbs and were breeders
    at the overstocked state hatchery.  The fish should be easily
    found at the south end of the lake near the state hospital where
    they were stocked.  I went up there last Saturday and you could
    see them swimming near the surface around the rocky shore line.
    I used to fish from the Hospital grounds when I worked there in
    high school but it has since been posted ... $100.00 fine.  got
    to get there by boat only.
    
    Anyway the state also stocked them at Olny Pond in Lincoln Woods
    and at another small pond in Exeter near the CT line where my
    nephew took a 10 pounder on Nov 19 while trolling in a crawdad.
    I took with there the day after thanksgiving but got skunked.
    It was freezing that day and the only thing that kept us going
    was seeing a few monsters (5 - 10 lbs) jumpin like crazy most of
    the morning.  None of the other dozen or so guys fishin caught any
    either, but one guy said 400 were stocked in the pond that was
    only about 100 acres.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
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539.1SAT at 8 AMRAINBO::BEAUDREAUFri Dec 04 1987 11:2423
    
    
    Weather permiting, a few of us are going to try our luck Sat. morning
    on Wallum Lake for some of these recently stocked salmon.  This
    may be a last chance to wet a line before ice in and the cold doesn't
    seem to bother the salmon.  
    
    Right now we have three, and don mac might become a fourth.  I'll
    be using a scanoe with a small thruster and will keep the front
    seat open for anyone crazy enough to join us... otherwise I'll take
    my nephew... I know he can catch'em and he's still smilin' from
    when he landed that 10 lber two weeks ago.
    
    We'll be launching from the beach at the Wallum Lake Terrace at
    about 8 AM.  The launch at Douglas State Park is still open I've
    been told.  We'll be at the south end of the lake near the hospital.
    Don't forget a flask of brandy or schnopps to warm your inners ;^)
    
    Call 226-2128 before 4 this afternoon for instructions on how to
    get there from here.
    
    The Harbor Master who it wasn't my idea!
    
539.2RAINBO::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Fri Dec 04 1987 11:506
    That was yesterday, after I listened to TBDW's weather forecast.
    Flurries, he says... HA!  I don't know about you guys, but at 8am
    tomorrow morning I'll probably be wandering around aimlessly behind
    my snowblower...
    
    don mac
539.3Buyin a smoker nowJAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardFri Dec 04 1987 13:419
    
    
    The snow is comming in on/off flurries now.  It isn't stickin.
    I am still optamistic for 8:am.
    I still need to keep the TEXICAN committed
    
    TBDW
    
    
539.4No Ice yetRAINBO::BEAUDREAUFri Dec 04 1987 15:0717
    
    
    So no more takers huh.... Don't let a little snow scare you guys
    off.  Wallum Lake won't freeze over for at least another week or
    so.  The only problem might be the NE wind though... gets pretty
    cold in hills of Burrrrrrrillville.  I'll have to see Dr. Magillicuty
    for a few pints of his gut warmin' tonic.   
    
    Anybody know the limit for Salmon in RI? 
    
    
    The Harbor Master
     
    
    
    
    
539.5The ReportDARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Dec 07 1987 09:4628
    
    
    Well we met the HARBOR MASTER and his nephew (who caught the ten
    pounder).  I'm talkin DEADLY COLD on Wallum Sat.
    We arrived about 1/2 hour late to find a note on the gate saying
    that the HARBOR MASTER wouldn't wait any longer, see ya on the water.
    As soon as we got out of the truck we started to examine our sanity.
    
    We rigged four poles. one with a streamer, one with a mooselook
    wobbler, one with a small repala and one with a bucktail mepps.
    Took off and within 150 yards of the beach, the Texican hooked into
    a fish.  I had no idea that he had about 75 yards of line out!
    I pulled in the other rods and the texican did a great job of workin
    the salmon to the boat.  As the salmon is 2 feet from the boat we
    realize we aint got no net.  Oh Shit!
    Just then the line broke and the fish slowly drifted away with the
    mepps sparkling in his mouth. (I hate that part) We were sick.
    To make a long sory shorter, we stayed about 1 1/2 hours and had
    to leave due to severe cold and wind. 
    some guy in a bass tracker showed us his 7-8 pounder.
    
    BTW The TEXICAN's Salmon probably went 7-9 pounds.  A beautifull
    fish.
    
    If anyone wants to take me in his REAL boat in the next few days,
    I would love to try again.
    
    TBDW
539.6Salmon still hittingRAINBO::BEAUDREAUMon Dec 07 1987 12:2128
    
    
    Hey TBDW, I'm glad you guys at least hooked into one of them landlock
    salmon... the adrendalin rush must have kept you warm for at least
    the five minutes anyways.  ;^)  My nephew didn't have a net either
    when he and his gramps caught their fish... the ol' man (about 73)
    had to "tail 'em" into the boat.
    
    At least you can verify that the fish are there and are catchable
    in this cold weather.  Ol' gramps sais that the salmon will hit
    near the surface about up to 100 ft off shore till ice-in.  Although
    you guys did manage to hook onto one in the middle of the lake,
    I think that was the exception (but who knows for sure anyway).
    
    I too will probably hang it up for the season unless I can get
    with someone who has a REAL boat.  Sitting in that scanoe for
    a couple hours in temperatures around 0 deg. F with the wind chill
    is tough on the knees.  And heading up wind frrom the hospital
    to the Terrace took forever with only a trollin motor.
    
    Hey what the heck, it wasn't that had, was it?  The fresh air
    helped get them computer cobwebs off the brain.
    
    Good to finally meet you though.
    
    The boatless Harbor Master.
    
    
539.7two per personRAINBO::BEAUDREAUMon Dec 07 1987 12:258
    
    Oh yeah... The limit for salmon in RI from Dec 1 till ice-out is
    two fish per person.  That's either on a line or thru the ice.
    
    we must have had ice...  on the brain!
    
    The Harbr Master.
    
539.8DARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Dec 07 1987 12:4116
    
    Question?
    
    If Wallum is 1/2 in RI. and 1/2 in Ma. and you launch in Ma. and
    catch the Fish in RI. then return to Ma. to pull the boat out?
    
    Oh well it probably doesn't matter since I have only seen one fish
    cop one time and that was three years ago and he didn't ask to see
    fish or licenses.
    
    TBDW
    
    Still looking for someone that hasn't taken the wheels off.....
    big DON?
    
    
539.9COLORS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Mon Dec 07 1987 13:0510
    The wheels are still on the trailer, BUT, the trailer registration
    ran out in November... I realized thi Friday night after hearing
    that the storm fizzled out, I was planning on joining you guys Sat
    morning, until I realized this.....
                          
    Also, the hull is empty, removed the outboard, deck, troll motor,
    lcr, etc. already...  BUT if I get the trailer registered this week, 
    I may be tempted to toss on the outboard and take a ride down there...
                          
    We'll see.....  donmac 
539.10One more timeRAINBO::BEAUDREAUMon Dec 07 1987 16:5413
    
    
    Will somebody please take their boat out of storage for one more
    shot at the salmon in Wallum Lake.  TBDW has a bad case of salmon
    fever and promised to remember to bring his net this time.  These
    good size salmon are just begging to be caught and want to try out
    TBDW's new smoker.   
    
    Oh yeah, I'll go along too if you need a guide.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
    
539.11PLEASE HELP, I'M FREEKINJAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardTue Dec 08 1987 09:2410
    
    
    The HARBOR MASTER has got that right!  If anyone has not put thier
    boat away, let's do it.  I promise to be a nice guy.  I would even
    consider going with the WORM or the leGOON of the pond.
    
    Please.... I can't stand it any longer.  

    TBDW
    
539.12Salmon Chant9544::BEAUDREAUTue Dec 08 1987 11:4914
    
    
    salmon.....salmon.....salmon....salmoN....salmON....
    
    salMON.....saLMON.....sALMON....SALMON....SALMON....
    
    
    
    Catch the fever!!!!!
    
    
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.13You May Have Sparked My InterestATEAM::MERCURIOTue Dec 08 1987 12:1010
    I still have my boat available for some fishing (it never gets put
    away for the winter, I stopped doing that about 3 years ago). Does
    this lake have any BASS in it? I'd be coming from Kingston, N.H.. 
    and could get talked into it if I knew that the lake had bass. If
    the fishing for salmon was slow we could at least catch something.
    
    
    
    						Still willing to go
    								Jim
539.14ATEAM::MERCURIOSON, were talkin' about A MONSTERTue Dec 08 1987 12:273
    
    
539.15I feel a nibbleRAINBO::BEAUDREAUTue Dec 08 1987 12:4621
    
    RE: .14
    
    My thoughts exactly.
    
    RE: .13
    
    Yes, the lake does have large and small mouth bass as well as
    brown, rainbow, and native lake trout.
    
    When you hook into one of them 5 - 10 pound landlocked salmon
    you will forget about bass till pre-spawn in the spring.
    
    TBDW has the honors, he's got the fever real bad !
    
    I'll go along if there's room.
    
    Thanks
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.16Wallum CharterMPGS::NEALTue Dec 08 1987 13:0225
    WALLUM'S SALMON CHARTER-
    
    	The boat:	16ft deep V equipped with chart recorder,
    			downriggers, rod holders, livewell, full 
    			lighting, cooler full of beer......ect..
    
    	The captain:	Obnoxious drunk'in fool that pretends he knows
    			how to catch fish, although no one has ever
    			seen him catch any.
    
    	The price:	$200 American
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    Just kidding about the $, I might be able to go on sunday. Interested?
    If so I'll have to get permission from the BOSS.
    
    Rich
539.17Its getting interestingMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUTue Dec 08 1987 16:0020
    
    
    Great !!!!!!
    
    So far we might have Jim Mercurio (if we promise him a bass)
    and Rich Neal (possible for sunday).  Now I know TBDW is raring
    to go... let's get an extended weather forecast and make some
    tentative plans.
    
    Hey Don Mac...... Getting interesting enough for you, or does
    more than one boat sound too much like a tourney which from
    what I here ensures that you get skunked ;^)   Want to end the
    season with the biggest catch of the year (even though its not
    a BASS)?
    
    Yeah ... thats the ticket.  Maybe some friendly competition for
    the biggest salmon.   And the winner gets to cook it for the loosers.
    
    
    The HARBOR MASTER
539.18DARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardTue Dec 08 1987 16:2714
    
    The HARBOR MASTER is on a roll.....
    
    So far it sounds like we have 5 possibles
    
    . Jim Mercurio
    . the HARBOR MASTER
    . Don Mac
    .  Rich Neal
    . TBDW
    
    I spoke with the WORM and tried to reach Steve Bergeron.
    Sunday would be good for me as long as there is no WIND        
    (maybe a little wind)
539.19GROSSED OUTDARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Dec 09 1987 11:2016
    
    AGH!!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    I heard last night that the SALMON in Wallum seem to have contracted
    some kind of fungus and are floating up on the beach.
    
    Anyone know anything about this?
    
    I am GROSSED OUT
    
    TBDW
    
    PS I also stopped by the offices of Don Mac and THE HARBOR MASTER
    this morning and they weren't there.  Are they fishing?
    
    
539.20YA ALMOST GOT ME!ATEAM::MERCURIOSON, were talkin' about A MONSTERWed Dec 09 1987 11:5018
    Garry,
    I spoke to Don yesterday afternoon and he said that he would be
    away today (a meeting somewhere) and would be back tomorrow.
    Now on this salmon trip, let me get this straight; you want me
    to travel almost 2 hours to a lake that has fish I never fish for,
    a fish I don't eat, and a one which has a fungus and is about to die.
    In addition, I get to freeze, because we'll be fishing the windward
    side of the lake, and if we were going to fish for bass they are
    usually very small and hard to catch... If it sounds like I'm backing
    out, your right, I am. I guess I'll stick to the lakes I know I
    can catch fish in, this time of year, even though the fish may be small
    and they're bass. Sorry, you didn't do a very good job of convincing
    me to go...ALMOST...WHEW, that was close.
    
    					Hope to see you at a tourney
    					 Better Luck Next Time!     

 						   Jim    
539.21Fungus reportRAINBO::BEAUDREAUWed Dec 09 1987 12:0938
    
    
    Hey, I've been in all morning TBDW.  Should have let us know you
    were comming.
    
    As for the fungus.....
    
    I was told that the state released these breeders due to over-
    crowding at the hatchery.  Seems that the population was getting
    too dense and some of the fish had contracted a skin fungus due
    to rubbing together and reducing their protective slime.
    
    The fish are otherwise healthy and eatable, or they would not have
    been released into the lakes.   I've also heard that the fish caught
    within the first two weeks after being stocked had empty stomachs
    showing no signs of eating natural lake foods (Whats around this
    time of year for them to eat anyway? No bugs, etc.)  After such
    an abundant stocking of breeders at this time of year, it should
    be expected that a small percentage may die as a result of the 
    transfer and culture shock of a new environment.
    
    Did the one that got away from the "Texican" seem unhealthy after
    putting up a good fight then breaking the line after seeing you
    guys ready to grab him at the boat?  I didn't see any lying
    dead on the beach after my two laps around the lake.
    
    Call the RI Department of Environmental Management for their
    official statement regarding this matter of fungus and the general
    health and well being of the salmon.
    
    I didn't intentionally withhold this info, just didn't think
    it mattered.
    
    
    The Harbor Master_who_will_probably_eat_salmon_at_Xmas_eve_dinner
    
    
    
539.22DEM Salmon ReportMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUWed Dec 09 1987 13:0042
    
    
    I just called the RI DEM Fish and Wildlife Division for their
    official response to the Fungus topic.  They said that some of
    the fish may have contracted a secondary skin infection due to
    abrassions from the concrete rtaining walls at the hatchery in
    Attleboro, MA.; and from the handling and transportation tanks
    to the designated lakes.   The fish are otherwise healthy and
    there have been no reports of dead salmon washing up on shore
    at Wallum Lake or any of the other stocked areas.
    
    They did say that this release was a planned stocking, and denied
    that the fungus was a result of the over-crowding at the hatchery.
    They also added that when transporting large quantitites of fish
    this size you can expect that some may get banged up more than others
    and some may even not survive the trip.
    
    I hope that this clerifies and any rumors that anyone may have heard
    regarding the health of the salmon in Wallum Lake.  I hope that
    TBDW's note doesn't scare anyone off.   When do any of us get a
    chance at salmon fishing without having to go the the big "O" or
    put up with the large crowns during the salmon runs.  
    
    Don Mac said that the landlocked salmon in some of the NH lakes
    run on the small 1 to 2 lb. size.  These recently stocked breeders
    run between 5 and 10 lbs. and are more catchable now than they
    will be when once they know their way around their new habitat.
    
    Hey.... I'm not trying to twist anyones arm to go get these fish.
    I could keep this spot as my salmon "Honeyhole" and let you guys
    drool when I report on my biggest catch.  I just wanted to let
    you all in on this little publicized stocking and let you share
    my find.  
    
    But don't just don't ask me where I plan on catching my 8 lb. +
    HAWGs....  ;^)   OK.
    
    
    The Harbor Master of Echo Lake
    
    
    
539.23License ?SMURF::AMATOWed Dec 09 1987 13:156
    This lake sounds like a great hotspot right now.  Since my fresh
    water fishing consists of NH only, which state and where could 
    I get a license if I wanted to try this lake?  If I can find the
    time, I might give it a shot before things freeze up.
    
    Thanks
539.24exDARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardWed Dec 09 1987 14:019
    
    
    Well we lost the big Jim. 
    I'm ok with what you have said.
    Let's go do it.
    Sounds like small shinners may be the real "bait" of choice.
    
    
     
539.25MASS Lic. OKRAINBO::BEAUDREAUWed Dec 09 1987 16:1219
    
    
    RE:  .23
    
    A mass license is probably OK, even if you fish in the RI end.
    
    Call RI DEM Fish and Wildlife Div. at 401-789-3094 to be sure.
    
    Don't see game wardens around too much, but since a lot of
    hunting for deer is done in the woods adjacent ot the lake
    one might show up at the launch at Douglasa State Park.
    
    Ice is comming fast, my lake is about the same size as Wallum (but
    not nearly as deep) and it was about 90% ice this AM.  Wallum should
    be good for another week or so.  This weekend is probably the last
    shot until the ice is safe.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.26MPGS::NEALThu Dec 10 1987 06:517
    From the Mass ABSTRACTS:
    
    Interstate ponds - Wallum Lake, Douglas: Fishing permitted by persons
    duly licensed in Massachusetts or Rhode Island. Rhode Island
    regulations apply.
    
    Rich
539.27COLORS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Thu Dec 10 1987 10:2510
        I'm back... Was up at the Augusta, Maine facility yesterday,
        home of MTBLUE::FLYFISHING, nice area...  
        
        Anyway, I'm still semi-interested in this excursion, but I have
        to admit, listening to Jim talk about bass'n around here, I'm 
        seriously considering throwing the boat back together and drop'n
        it in the water on Saturday - unless of course I can talk Jim into 
        drop'n his boat in, and taking me with him!
        
        Don Mac, who'll be re-registering his boat trailer tomorrow am...
539.28Charter to two pleaseMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUThu Dec 10 1987 13:169
    
    
    Hey Rich Neal, you still in for some salmon steaks?  Might be only
    TBDW and myself taking the Wallum Lake Charter.  Let's nail down
    the details by Friday.  I wish we hab been out their today!
    
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.29Its a go for sundayMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUFri Dec 11 1987 09:5111
    
    
    Well the Wallum Lake Salmon charter is booked for this Sunday AM.
    Capt. Rich Neal will be taking TBDW and myself out for a half day
    charter and promises to get us over some fish using his on-board
    electronic gizzmos.  
    
    I'll report on our catch next week.  Wish us luck.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.30DSSDEV::MACINTYREFri Dec 11 1987 15:208
    I reregistered the trailer today... but now my truck's dead...
    so I won't be hauling my boat anywhere...  However, I will be going
    bass'n with Jim...
    
    Good luck boys...
    
    Don (at ZK in his wife's account)
539.31Salmon and WhiskeyMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUMon Dec 14 1987 09:188
    
    Hey, TBDW where is your fish story?  Come on, tell the guys
    about the wimpy salmon that couldn't wait to get in the boat.
    
    Rich Neil and I got skunked, but we at least caught a good buzz
    from the whiskey!
    
    The Harbor Master
539.32MPGS::NEALMon Dec 14 1987 09:388
    I cant wait to see how much that fish grew since yesterday.
    
    At the ramp it was 4.5 lbs.... Must be at least 7 or 8 
    by now. There was some question about the accuracy of my scale.
    
    Only TBDW had a question. Good fish anyway!
    
    Rich
539.33COLORS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Mon Dec 14 1987 11:567
    Jim took me to his hotspot on Saturday, we caught 16 bass, with
    Jim getting most of them...  along with some pickeral and a lunker 
    (pound?) perch...  The bass were on the small side.  I was using the
    ultralight, so it was alot of fun.                     
                                                                       
    Don Mac                                                            

539.34LIVE WELL WIEGHT LOSSDARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Dec 14 1987 13:4021
    
    
    Ok........  we all know that fish loose several pound in the live
    well......  24 inches long
    
    I want to take this time to thank and congratulate Capt. Rich Neal
    and the "bartender" The famous HARBOR MASTER.
    
    A really beautiful day. 
    
    It was the MOOSEALOOK WOBBLER (Fluorescent orange).

    The fish was 24 inches long and wieghed 4 1/2 pounds.  When I got
    home I cleaned the fish in prep for smoking and began to realize
    that this be some SKINNY Salmon.  Two very wierd things; 
    1)  The Salmon had no food in her stomach.
    2)  The salmon was loaded with EGGS!  Yes that's right eggs.

    
    TBDW
    
539.35Enjoy your meal!MOSAIC::BEAUDREAUMon Dec 14 1987 14:4422
    
    
    Listen to the complaints... "the fish was skinny, no food in
    her stomach and she was full of eggs"  :^)  
    
    And you should have added that it didn't put up much of a fight
    for its size.  We had five lines out trolling when the salmon hit 
    TBDW orange wobbler and Capt. Neil and myself quickly reeled in 
    the other lines so he would'nt get tangled up and loose it.  But
    the fish ran staight  at the back of the boat and just about jumped
    in the net!
    
    So TBDW gets his salmon on his second time out at Wallum and ends
    up with about 2.5 pounds of fresh fish for his smoker.  
    
    Nice catch anyway.  And at least I know the one that got away
    from the TEXICAN may still be out their for MY salmon steaks.
    
    Thanks again Capt. Rich Neil, it was a good time out in your boat.
    
    The HARBOR MASTER  
    
539.36Bait of choiceDARTS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Dec 14 1987 15:3110
    
    
    Now that I'm thinking of it,  Purina Salmon Chow is the bait of
    choice at Wallum.
    
    
    
    
    TBDW
    
539.37FYI...Fisherman articleTOOK::SWEETMon Dec 14 1987 16:356
    The latest copy of the fisherman had a note about the salmon stocking
    at wallum lake. Can't remember what it said specifically but it was
    nothing too promising. If I remember I will bring it in and paraphrase
    it if anyone is interested.
    
    Capt. Codfish
539.38JAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Dec 14 1987 16:557
    
    Capt.  I would be very interested

    
    
    TBDW
    
539.39TBDS ???FEISTY::TOMASJoeMon Dec 14 1987 17:064
 	
			THE BACK DECK SALMONOID ??
    

539.40Let's hear itRAINBO::BEAUDREAUTue Dec 15 1987 12:0514
    
    
    Capt. Codfish,
    
    Yeah, I would like to know what you meant by "not too promising".
    After two outing to Wallum Lake, we have either hooked into one
    (the one that got away story), seen another fisherman's nice catch,
    and finally landed one last Sunday.  So far TBDW and myself have
    logged only about 4 to 5 hours on the lake under some pretty bad
    conditions with at least something to show for our efforts.
    
    Can't wait to hear your report.  Thanks for the info.
    
    The Harbor Master
539.41Article from the Fisherman...Happy ReadingTOOK::SWEETWed Dec 16 1987 09:1335
    From the DEC 10th issue of the fisherman, page 6.
    
                LANDLOCKED SALMON STOCKED IN RHODY 
                
    An unannounced and unexpected stocking of 500 to 600 landlocked
    salmon in Rhode Island waters this fall caught most local anglers
    uprepared.
    
    The Fish and Wildlife Division planted fish weighing up to nine
    pounds in the following waters: Wallum Lake, Burrilville; Olney
    Pond, Lincoln State Park; Stafford Pond, Tiverton; Carbuncle Pond,
    a F&W reservation, Coventry. Also, Wood River received a supply
    of salmon reported stoacked in pools near various dams from Rt.
    165 downstream through Arcadia Park to Alton on Rt. 91.
    
    The landlocks were raised at the Federal Hatchery, Attleboro, MA
    and are breeders who have seen there best days. John Cronan, the
    Fish and Wildlife director, reported that more may be stocked when
    and if provided by the hatchery. The river already contains Atlantic
    salmon parr which measure 6 to 9 inches and are protected. They
    look like brown trout but if hooked should be released unharmed.
    
    There are no regulations published about this fishery, but some
    anglers have had success with spinning lures and flies. The survivors
    may be around in the spring...maybe.
    
    A boat is useful to fish the ponds mentioned above. Wallum Lake
    is accessible from Zambarano State Hospital and the Douglas State
    Forest in Douglas, MA, both from Rt. 100. Olney Pond borders Rt,
    146 in Lincoln; Stafford Pond borders Rt. 81 in Tiverton via the
    Mt. Hope Bridge. Carbuncle Pond is off Rt, 14 near the Conn. line.
    All have Boat Ramps.               GEORGE LINNANE
    
    
    CC.
539.42Over the hill salmon?MOSAIC::BEAUDREAUWed Dec 16 1987 09:4437
    
    Thanks for the info.  This doesn't sound that bad.  
    
    As for "breeders that have seen better days"... sure they may be
    getting a little old and past thier breeding prime.  And 500 to
    600 fish going up to 9 lbs may take up too much room at the federal
    hatchery and compete too much for the food supply.... thus maybe
    stunting or crowding the smaller salmon.  
    
    After being fed at the hatchery for so long, these older salmon
    may have a harder time adjusting to their new environments than
    say small trout stocked in the spring.  And as I've stated before,
    most reports say that what fish have been caught had empty stomachs..
    They now have a adjust real fast to finding their own food, which
    is very limited this time a year (unlike during spring releases).
    This may be what they mean by "a few of the survivors may be around 
    by spring". 
    
    Anyway, the survivors will still offer a challenge to any fisherman
    who hooks onto one of these 9 pounders on light to medium tackle
    usually used in these predominently "trout" ponds and lakes.
    
    The guy at my local tackle shop took a picture of two brothers who
    live in town... both were holding two salmon and all four fish were
    over seven pounds.  These guys bought up the shop's supply of their
    favorite lure and the biggest net he had after their last outing
    when they failed to boat about a half-dozen of these "seen better
    days" salmon.  Since then the guy at he tackle shop said these
    guys were catching a ton of them and loving every minute of it.
    
    Sorry for rambling on....I still got the fever!
    
    Thanks again for your report.
    
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.43WALLUM MADDNES3D::ATKOCIUSWed Dec 16 1987 12:2016
    
    SO THAT'S WHAT "THEM CRAZY FISHERMEN" WE DOING OUT ON THE LAKE!!
    
    I HAVE A PLACE ON WALLUM LAKE, THE YELLOW HOUSE WITH THE CEMENT
    WALL JUST AROUND THE POINT FROM THE RESIDENTS' BEACH. OUR NEIGHBOR
    SAID HE CAUGHT A 7 POUND TROUT OFF HIS LAWN ON SAT. ON A BIG SHINER.
    
    OF COURSE I TOLD HIM HE WAS FULL OF ____,AS WELL AS WHISKY. I GUESS
    I HAVE TO APOLOGIZE TO HIM NOW. MAYBE NOT, IF HE CAN'T TELL A LANDLOCK
    FROM A TROUT HE DON'T DESERVE AN APOLOGY.
    
    GOOD LUCK WITH WALLUM BOYS, I'VE FISHED THAT LAKE FOR 13 YEARS NOW
    AND I'M DEFINITLY NOT,I REPEAT NOT, IMPRESSED
    
    
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539.447 lb. Trout?VIKING::BEAUDREAUWed Dec 16 1987 13:0620
    
    
    RE: .43
    
    Yeah, but I hope he can a least taste the difference!
    
    As for fishin Wallum for 13 years and not being impressed....
    
    what do you fish for?
    
    where do you fish?
    
    The trout in a lake that size are usually tough to locate.
    Need some hints? ;^)
    
    Oh yeah, I must admit we must of looked like fools out there
    in this cold weather.
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.45STILL NOT IMPRESSED3D::ATKOCIUSThu Dec 17 1987 16:3440
    
    REF; .43
    
    I USUALLY FISH THE QUABBIN, SO WALLUM LAKE LOOKS LIKE A COVE TO
    ME
    
    I'LL GO AFTER SOME OF THE STOCKIES IN THE SPRING WHEN I DON'T HAVE
    A WHOLE DAY TO FISH, AND LATER IN THE YEAR TURN TO BASS.
    
    BY THE WAY, I'VE NEVER GOTTEN,OR EVEN SEEN CAUGHT FOR THAT MATTER,
    A SMALLMOUTH IN WALLUM.
    
    I'VE BOUNCED RECORDER SIGNALS ALL OVER THAT LAKE AND KNOW EVERY
    HOLE AND BAR IN THE PLACE--MOST OF THEM ARE WEARING A FEW OF MY
    LURES TO BOOT.
    
    WALLUM'S PROBLEM IS ACID. EVERY FEW YEARS THEY LIME IT (USUALLY
    R.I. DOES IT) AND IT PICKS UP FOR A WHILE, THEN GOES DOWN-HILL AGAIN
    THEY TRIED INTRODUCING A NEW FORAGE BASE A FEW YEARS BACK (SOME
    SORT OF LAND-LOCKED HERRING FROM NEW JERSY), AND IT LOOKED LIKE
    THEY MIGHT TAKE, BUT IN A COUPLE OF YEARS THE LAKE TURNED TO VINEGAR
    AGAIN AND GOOD BYE HERRING!
    
    I HAVE SEEN A FEW (AND ONLY A FEW) GOOD LARGEMOUTHS COME OUT OF
    THE LAKE, MOST OF THE ONES WE GET ARE POPCORNS - NO CRAWFISH - VERY
    FEW BAITFISH - WHAT CAN YOU EXPECT TO CATCH IN SALAD DRESSING!!
    
    I ALWAYS NEED SOME NEW TIPS!! I'VE BEEN SERIOUS FISHING SOME 30+
    YEARS AND SOMEONE'S ALWAYS COMING UP WITH SOMETHING NEW. BASIC SHIT
    I DON'T NEED, BUT I'VE GOT A FEW NEW TRICKS THAT I'LL TRADE FOR
    A FEW NEW TRICKS.
    
    BY THE WAY, I DIDN'T APOLOGIZE TO MY NEIGHBOR - I TOLD HIM HE MUST
    HAVE CAUGHT A CARP, AND HE SAYS,"YEA, MAYBE, YOU KNOW THEM CARP
    SHUR DO TASTE GOOD!!!!"  WOW - A SUCKER EATING A CARP!!
    
    ANY NOTES IN HERE ABOUT FISH SENTS?? I HAVEN'T HAD TIME TO CHECK
    THEM ALL
    
                                                           AA
539.46SorryMOSAIC::BEAUDREAUMon Dec 21 1987 09:3026
    
    RE:  . 45
    
    
    Sorry if I offended you.  Sounds like you are on top of the
    situation at Wallum.   Since I'm a lifelong resident of the 
    area and have been fishing all of the local ponds since I was 
    a kid, I may have been overly optimistic on my statements
    regarding Wallum.
    
    I have caught a good deal of browns and even an occational
    lake trout at Wallum in the past.  I haven't aggressivey fished 
    wallum for some time and got caught up in the Salmon fever.  Hope
    they take well.  At leaste RI is doing its best to improve
    the fishery in this pristine lake.                               
    
    I have my best luck for bass at Pascoag Res. (my back yard), and
    at Wilson's Res and Bowdish; both within 3 miles from my house.
    
    Have you ever gone to Round Top for trout?
    
    Regards,
    
    The Harbor Master
    
    
539.47WHO ME3D::ATKOCIUSTue Dec 22 1987 11:1117
    REF:46
    
    I THINK YOU TOOK ME WRONG-I WOULD NEVER TAKE OFFENSE AT THE OFFER
    OF A LITTLE HELP. THERE'S ALWAYS SOMETHING YOU DON'T KNOW, OR A
    NEW ANGLE,OR A NEW TRICK. THAT'S WHAT MAKES FISHING SO MUCH FUN
    -IT NEVER GETS OLD.
    
    YEA, SALMON FEVER IS A REAL EASY DISEASE TO CATCH. I CAUGHT IT AT
    QUABBIN QUITE A WHILE BACK AND I KEEP GETTING RELAPSES EVERY SPRING.
    
    YOU WOULD THINK A COUPLE OF GOOD DAYS OF FISHING WOULD HELP, BUT
    IT ONLY SEEMS TO MAKE IT WORSE.
    
    I NEVER TRIED THOSE SPOTS YOU MENTIONED-BUT I'LL KEEP THEM IN MIND.
    THANKS FOR THE INFO.
    
    AA
539.48No offense taken :^)MOSAIC::BEAUDREAUTue Dec 22 1987 11:4926
    
    re: .47
    
    I backed off a little because you said you've covered every inch
    of the lake with your electronics and know every hole, etc.  
    You also say that Wallum is a cove compared to Quabin. If you
    fish quabin and have such an extensive knowledge of the acid
    situation at Wallum, my two cents worth may not even be worth
    that much ;^)
    
    I've had my best luck in the past around the hospital, which
    has since been posted "No Fishing" from land.  Does this tell
    you something?  When I see a "No Fishing" sign it kind of gets
    me thinking how good the fishery must be! and may risk the fine
    or try anyway I can to try it out.  The state probably posted
    the land to cover its liability ;^)  But most of my buddies
    who work at the hospital fish thhere anyway with good catches
    to prove my point.
    
    Maybe we can get together sometime in the spring and I'll show
    you my spots.
    
    Till ice out....
    
    The Harbor-less Master 
    
539.49Couldn't hurt to askVICKI::DODIERWed Dec 23 1987 08:0610
    re:48
    	Regarding the no tresspassing. You may want to ask the hospital
    security people. Sometimes they post places like that due to limited
    parking and don't want you taking up a parking space that a visitor
    would normally take. Also, you may want to point out (if there are
    any rooms with windows facing the water) that you are in a sense
    providing entertainment. I'd rather watch someone fishing than soaps
    or game shows anyday.

    RAYJ
539.50WALLUM HOLES3D::ATKOCIUSMon Dec 28 1987 12:2720
    RE: .48
    
    I'VE TAKEN QUITE A FEW IN FRONT OF THE HOSPITAL,BUT THERE SEEMS
    TO BE MORE JUST UP FROM THERE TOWARDS WHERE THAT GUY KEEPS HIS FLOAT
    PLANE.
    
    WE ALWAYS WORK THE EDGE OF THE SHALLOW FLAT JUST BEFORE THERE WHERE
    IT DROPS OFF. LOTS OF ROCKS THOUGH AND LOTS OF LOST LURES.
    
    I'VE GOT THE ACID RAIN INFO BECAUSE MY BROTHER-IN-LAW IS A SCIENCE
    TEACHER IN WORCESTER, AND THE SCIENCE CLUB PROJECT IS TO MONITOR
    ACID RAIN, AND HIS JOB IS TO MONITOR THE SCIENCE CLUB! SOME OF THE
    RESULTS ARE REALLY UNBELIEVABLE.
    
    WHAT KIND OF BOAT ARE YOU FISHING FROM? I MAY HAVE SEEN YOU ON THE
    LAKE BEFORE HAULING THEM OVER THE SIDE?
    
                                              THINK-SPRING
    
                                              AA
539.51PLEASE!BEOWLF::RIEUYou have my WORD on it!Tue Dec 29 1987 09:234
       Re:.50
    Could you try using the CAPS LOCK key? ALL caps is considered SHOUTING!
    It's the second key from the left in the 2nd row up. Thank you. 
                                            Denny
539.52BAGELS::DILSWORTHKeith Dilsworth DTN 226-5566Fri Mar 18 1988 10:045
    It's still a little early to get excited about bass but 7lb Salmon
    are another story.  Do you think any servived the winter?  What is
    the season for RI Salmon?  Is the ice out yet?

    keith
539.53JAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardFri Mar 18 1988 10:458
    
    how about some HARBORMASTER reporting here?
    
    Sounds good to me.  
    
    Have CRAWDAD, Will travel
    
    
539.54Can you walk on water?PSYCHE::BEAUDREAUFri Mar 18 1988 12:2323
    
    
    RE:  .52 & .53
    
    Keith,
    
    
    Ice is out  at Wallum Lake.  I didn't hear of any of the salmonoids  
    being taken thru the ice this winter.  But some were taken a Carbunkle
    Pond, which was stocked at the same time as Wallum.
    
    The trout and salmon season starts on the second sat. of April.
    Wallum lake and all the other AAA rated ponds and streams in NW
    RI are packed on opening day.  However, I'm planning on going to
    Wallum on Sunday after opening day to avoid the crowds.
    
    To busy right now to even think of fishin' 8^(
    
    I'll get something going in a few weeks.
    
    
    The Harbor Master
    
539.55PSYCHE::BEAUDREAUFri Mar 18 1988 12:2922
    
    
    RE: .52, .53
    
    
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539.56PSYCHE::BEAUDREAUWed Apr 13 1988 13:4726
    
    
    I returned to Wallum on Sat for the opening of trout seasion in
    RI.   My nephew an I got on the water by 5:45 AM in our sconoe
    and trolled a couple  mooslock woblers till we got to our spot
    and set anchor.  I quickly rigged up a small pinhead shiner
    and used a  small acme spoon on the other rod.  Within ten minutes
    I had a fish on the shiner and landed a nice 16" rainbow trout.
    About twenty minutes later I had on my second fish, a 13" brookie.
    
    Then everything stpped dead and the legendary WALLUM lake winds
    picked up and the temp dropped about 10 deg.  Most of the other
    30 or so baot were trollingBut we packed it in for a betteer day.
    
    The day end report said a couple of 6 to 7 pounbd salmon were taken.
    
    I guess some of the landlocks from  last fall managed to survive
    the winter.
    
    Sorry for the typos, system response is lagging by about 30 characters
    as I type.
    
    More to come later.
    
    The HARBOR MASTER