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| 520.1 | BUGS | JOULE::DEAN | | Fri Oct 30 1987 12:11 | 13 |
| YES. YOU CAN APPLY FOR A NON COMM BUG LIC. AT THE MA. DIV. MARINE
FISHERIES IN BOS.
I HAVE ONE FOR DIVING AND 10 POTS. ANY ONE IN YOUR FAMILY CAN PULL
THE POTS.
BUY A BUG GAUGE 3 3/16 IN. EYE SOCKET TO FIRST CARAPACE. AND DONT
TAKE FEMALES WITH EGGS OR "V" NOTCH BUGS.
BON APPERTETE
WALT. GIBSON LTN 2
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| 520.2 | Thanks for the BUG report | TOOK::SWEET | | Fri Oct 30 1987 16:19 | 5 |
| Thanks,
With luck, lobster dinner every week next spring...
Bruce
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| 520.3 | Sometimes get some | REGENT::BURBINE | | Wed Nov 04 1987 12:55 | 8 |
| < Note 520.2 by TOOK::SWEET >
-< Thanks for the BUG report >-
Good luck at your new project!!! What do you plan on using for
bait? Also how often will you pull those pots and what will you
do to prevent friendlies from having your catch??
Norm
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| 520.4 | Lobster Bait | TOOK::SWEET | | Thu Nov 05 1987 09:52 | 11 |
| I will use the bodies of the fish I catch, in the spring I will
be cod fishing and will just fillet them and instead of feeding
the crabs I will put the bodies in the pots. I imagine some fish
are better than others for bait...I know many lobsterman use pogies...
time will tell. I will probably pull them 1-2 times a week, depending
on how often I get out, and where I am fishing.
Friendlies????
Capt. Codfish
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| 520.5 | Lobster Pots??? | COBRA::DUFFY | | Thu Nov 05 1987 13:20 | 4 |
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-< Lobster Pots >-
After you get the license, where can you get the "pots" from???
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| 520.6 | y | REGENT::BURBINE | | Thu Nov 05 1987 13:50 | 12 |
| -< Lobster Bait >-
Friendlies???? Capt. Codfish
Friendlies generally have rubber skin and large
protrusions from the back. Also wear big glasses and if caught
should be quickly entangled in pot warps and reset.
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| 520.7 | More on Lobsters | TOOK::SWEET | | Thu Nov 05 1987 15:45 | 27 |
| Ahhhh, I get it...blub,blub,blub oops watch out for my prop...
Seriously, I intend to put my traps in around salem sound, and there
are many divers in that area but I would hope they can catch them
by hand and not raid my traps. There are ALOT of comercial guys
working that area I tend to think there are enough lobsters to go
around. I will probably set mine in deeper water near some ledges
I fish, the divers tend to stay near the islands.
As far as getting pots...I have seen used ones advertised in the want
adds and bargin hunters for around 10-15$ a trap. I think the largest
expense may be for line since I figure about 50ft per pot (500ft
for ten). I am also worried about the weight of the traps and hauling
them. Seems like the wire traps may be less weight than oak but
do they work as well? I was thinking maybe I could rig a pully
on a pole that would go in a rod holder (that way I could get it
out of the way when fishing) but his idea needs some thought. Any
suggestions? (Jigger Joe suggested this could be used to hoist
oversized tuna fish over the side...hmmm might be a big seller).
Yesterday was a Tough tough day for me...had the lower unit pulled
off and the engine winterized. Thats all she wrote till April.
Nothing to now but clean up the tackle and fill out the xmas list.
Capt. Codfish
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| 520.8 | Try this... | RIPPLE::CORBETTKE | KENNY CHINOOK | Thu Nov 05 1987 17:28 | 14 |
| Re. pulling lobster traps.
In Puget Sound they set traps for shrimp at about 200 ft. To save
the wear and tear on their backs, hands, etc. they bring their old
lawn mowers on board and take a dally around the shaft with the
rope which causes the mower to lift the trap. You might buy an
old lawnmower and rig it up that way. Anyway it will give you
something to do during those cold eastern winters.
My boat is still going out and the salmon fishing and crabbing has
been excellent.
Ken
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| 520.9 | Wire is easier | MPGS::NEAL | | Fri Nov 06 1987 06:23 | 5 |
| Wire traps will be easier to pull. There is less resistance/weight
when pulling them through the water. But if you do set up with a
moter it realy dosn't matter unless it breaks ;-).
Rich
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| 520.10 | POT WARP and | REGENT::BURBINE | | Fri Nov 06 1987 07:55 | 9 |
| -< Wire is easier >-
Not only is wire easier but it doesn't get worms like the wooden
ones do. Don't forget to get a supply of tiewraps.
Oh! warp is not very expensive--Sandwich Ship Supply sells it in
1500 foot spools for about $60.
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| 520.11 | Alot of good info!! | TOOK::SWEET | | Fri Nov 06 1987 08:44 | 11 |
| Thanks for lots of good information!!! If I can out it to use I
should be fat (with lobsters) and happy next spring. The lawn mower
engine is a good idea and I know just the person who has several
Briggs and Stratton 2-5 Hp engines just waiting for a use, and he
loves to tinker.
I called Mass Div of Marine Fisheries (727-3193) and they are sending
me an application. You may file for an '88 permit after DEC 1st.
The fee is $30.
Capt. Codfish
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| 520.12 | more about bugs | JOULE::DEAN | | Fri Nov 06 1987 12:21 | 33 |
| capt codfish.
Why put the boat away so early? The best cod are in the winter.
as soon as i shake my fall flu I'll be out there to get a few. I
was wondering if you have heard of any good spots for pollack? It
should be just about that time.
In regard to pots the best way to set them is like this.
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Two bouys, five pots, this saves warp,bouys and time to pull them.
if the water is 50 ft deep make sure you use 60 ft of bouy warp.
if you have a small boat reduce the pot string to as many pots as
you can set on your deck . and still have room to work.
P.S some divers may rob pots; but its much easier for a diver to
get lobsters right off the bottom. for every bug I see in a pot;
I see 100 on the bottom.
if
good luck
Walt.
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| 520.13 | Streakers | TOOK::SWEET | | Fri Nov 06 1987 13:10 | 25 |
| re .12
Walt,
Nice picture, how long should the warp be between pots (long than
the water depth?) only reason I ask is if I was pulling them by
hand I would have the weight of two traps for a period of time if
I put them in a string, but if I rig a motor there should be no
problem.
The reason I pulled my boat my boat is I trailer it (21 ft Chris
Craft with a 230 Merc I/O) and we have had a number of hard freezes
and a cracked block (about $8000) is not worth a few Cod. Last time
out was a week ago Saturday and the fishing was GREAT! What type
of boat do you have? If you need an experinced mate for a trip
let me know.
I have not caught any large streakers lately but I have two 35lbs
to my name. I know there are some wrecks out around the B Bouy that
have held large Pollock in the past. Most of mine have come from
Stellewagon or Tillies. According to the fisherman the Pollock have
been slow so far on the Banks.
CC
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| 520.14 | could use a starter motor | HPSCAD::WHITMAN | Acid rain burns my BASS | Fri Nov 06 1987 16:28 | 10 |
| For what ever it worth, I've seen rigs where the capstan (the 'pulley' you
wrap the line around to help you pull the weight) was attached to a starter
motor and run off the 12v battery, which is kept charged by the alternator.
Or you could steal a couple deep cycle batteries off somebody's bass boat.
You may have to be concerned about the current draw, but I suspect a motor
connected to a ring gear on a -10 deg morning draws a lot more current than
you ever will with the capstan. If you try it you might want to hook up
and ammeter to see what you draw.
Al
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| 520.15 | No starters!! | KVARS::LESMERISES | | Mon Nov 16 1987 17:43 | 2 |
| There not starter motors. They are generators that are rewired
to be motors, most auto-electric shops can do this. -felix-
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| 520.16 | COD HUNTER | 19358::HOLLEYT | | Tue Feb 09 1988 17:00 | 15 |
| I AM NEW TO THE FISHING NOTES. I AM TERRY HOLLEY AND I WORK IN
SPRINGFIELD. A FRIEND OF MINE KEEPS HIS BOAT AT HARWICH PORT
ALL WINTER. WE HAVE NOT BEEN TOO LUCKY AS WE DON'T KNOW THE
WATERS. WE HAVE ALL THE ELECTRONICS BUT NO NUMBERS.
AS FOR HAULING LOBSTER POTS THEY MAKE AN ELECTRIC POT HAULER
THAT RUNS ON 12 VOLTS. YOU WILL ALSO NEED A PULLEY RIGGED
UP OVERHEAD SO YOU CAN SWING THE POT INTO THE BOAT.
SKATE ALSO WORK GOOD FOR BAIT AS THEY DON'T DECAY QUITE AS
FAST AS OTHER FISH.
IF ANYONE OUT THERE HAS ANY NUMBERS THAT THEY DON'T MIND SHARING
I WOULD APPRECIATE THE HELP.
THANK YOU
TERRY C HOLLEY SPMFG1::HOLLEYT DTN 243-2268
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| 520.17 | The way I got started... | TOOK::SWEET | | Wed Feb 10 1988 08:34 | 11 |
| Terry,
What I did when I first started fishing from my boat (no loran
at the time, but I did have a papar machine) is to get a chart of
the area you want to fish. If you are looking for Cod then look
for hills and ledge markings on the chart. If you can locate that
type of structure its a good bet it will hold cod especially in
the spring. I have been very sucessfull with this method and now
that I have loran I can come back on the structure as I find it.
Bruce
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| 520.18 | Actual start up cost | TOOK::SWEET | | Thu Mar 10 1988 14:59 | 10 |
| I just talked to a guy in East Boston at Eastern Trap Co. They make
wire traps. The price brand new is 27.40 for a 13.5x24x36 trap
(ready to fish, bricks netting etc). I never knew that traps came
in different sizes, shapes, the basic rule is bigger traps more
lobsters. Bouys and stick run about 2.15 each and line is about
60. for 1200 ft. So the total if I go brand new on everything is
about $385 including the license. Lobster is running about $5/pound
so thats about 77 lobsters to break even.
Bruce
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| 520.19 | Bug Report | TOOK::SWEET | Capt. Codfish...Jeffries Ledge or Bust | Thu Jun 09 1988 15:41 | 9 |
| Just thought I would pass this along. I actually followed through
and got my lobster license, bought 6 wire traps, rigged them and
then set them Sunday and hauled them for the first time
yesterday afternoon. Got 9 bugs but all but 2 were undersized. Kept
those 2 and had them for dinner. Mmm Mmm Good!! Nothing like
fresh Manchester lobsters. Looking forward to bigger and better
bugs all summer long...
Capt. Lobster er I mean Codfish
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| 520.21 | Pot Dealer! | MERIDN::KPHILLIPS | | Wed Jul 20 1988 13:04 | 45 |
| I discovered a lobster pot manufacturer in New Bedford, MA who sells
pots and warp to the public.
Their pricing is as follows:
UNIT QTY
ITEM PRICE PRICE
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POTS (coated wire)
30"x18"x12" $29.00/ea $24.00/ea
in 25+ quantities.
36"x18"12" $31.00/ea $26.00/ea
in 25+ quantities.
36"x18"x12" $33.50/ea $28.50/ea
w/heavy duty bracing in 25+ quantities.
(commercial pots)
WARP
3/8" dacron/ $ 0.10/ft $ 1.90/lb
polypropelene for 1200 ft coil
( about 44lbs/coil )
5/16" leaded ? $ 1.55/lb
polypropelene for 1200 ft coil
?" mixed rag ? $ 1.55/lb
for 1200 ft coil
The Company is Ketcham Traps, 111 Myrtle Street, New Bedford, MA
(617) 997-4787.
Does this sound like a good deal ? I may be getting some pots toward
the end of the summer, and I don't know how well they stack up to other
sources.
P.S. Sorry for some missing info. I was keeping track of my 3 year old
at the same time I was talking to them.
-- Kevin
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| 520.22 | 1989 Lobster Licence | HAZEL::YELINEK | WITHIN 10 | Mon Feb 06 1989 10:26 | 34 |
| I just received my renewal application for my Lobster Licence for
1989. What a SURPRISE!! The DuKE didn't increase the past $30.00
fee for a non-commercial licence. I thought sure that the fee would
have doubled..!
New to this years application:
* The EEZ Endorsement to all Mass. Coastal Lobster Fisherman *
The federal Fishery Management Plan affects all fisherman harvesting
or possessing lobsters outside of state waters but within federal
waters of the Exclusive Economic Zone (EEZ). The Division and the
National Marine Fisheries Service have agreed that an endorsement
of your Mass. Coastal Lobster Permit will authorize you to fish
for lobsters in the EEZ.
Check the box which describes your operation.
o STATE WATERS ONLY (subject to Mass. statutes and regulations)
o STATE AND FEDERAL WATERS (subject to both Mass. statutes and
regulations and the provisions of the Federal Lobster Management
Plan (50 CFR 649) which are applicable in the EEZ.)
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Signature Date
THIS APPLIES ONLY TO 'COMMERCIAL' FISHERMEN and not to divers who
take lobsters outside of state waters.
BTW- The minimum size for 'keepers' has grown to 3 1/4" for 1989.
/MArk (already thinkin' of catchin' lobZilla...)
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