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420.1 | | AIMHI::TOMAS | Joe | Tue Jul 21 1987 14:10 | 15 |
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Welcome to the notesfile, Marty! I'm sure you'll enjoy reading it!
As far as the seacoast goes, it's been a long time since I've done any
saltwater fishing, however, I do know that the blues and stripers are
running. Assuming you have rods and reels suited to that type of fish, I'd
suggest that you stop in at any of the local bait/tackle dealers and have
them tell you what type of lures/bait to use and buy from them. Their
prices might be a little higher than places like K-Mart, but you get
first-hand experience and information that will be reliable.
Good luck!
-Joe
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420.2 | Salt Update | BRAT::QUINNETT | | Tue Jul 21 1987 14:24 | 14 |
| Welcome to the salt. The Stripers are running fairly well this
year. Flounder are also being caught with the tide. Blues are
very spotty, no heavy concentration yet. Stripers are taking
white jigs with white pork rinds like champs. There is a length
limit of 33 inches this year. I use light tackle for the Stripers
and Blues (6 to 6 1/2 foot baitcating rod and reel). The majority
of Bass will be under the legal limit (33") but with light to med.
tackle you will have an exciting day of fishing.
The Stripers seem to have a significant pattern. Not much action
till the tide starts to go out. If you can position yourself near
or in the mouth of the Merrimack you may get into some nice fishing.
For the surfcasters the Jetty at Plum Island is producing with the
tide. Good luck to all.
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420.3 | | SKIVT::WOOD | | Tue Jul 21 1987 14:30 | 12 |
| Thanks for the suggestions Joe. I do have a good assortment of
saltwater equipment although one of the few times I've oceaned
fished I had the most fun with my ultra light (4lb test) and
a school of mackeral. The thought of a 10lb blue on the end of it
pops into my head more and more as the weekend nears !!!
I'm also interested to see how well the 19 footer handels the
ocean waves. Of course, if it's dead calm this weekend I won't
be disapointed either. I'm bringing a friend who's a confirmed
"chummer".
Marty
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420.4 | | AIMHI::TOMAS | Joe | Tue Jul 21 1987 15:15 | 18 |
| Marty,
The thought of taking a 10lb blue on ultralight gear sounds like fun...BUT,
I wouldn't suggest it unless... 1) you use a wire leader, 2) you have LOTS
of line on your reel, and 3) you have LOTS of time to play them.
Blues have a mouthful of razor sharp teeth that can do a number on 20-30 lb
test line...4lb test line would be like breaking a spider web! And, if you
decide to try lighter line, I'd make sure that you had a couple hundred
yards of line on a reel with an EXCELLENT drag! The drag MUST be real
smooth or you can kiss a 10lber good-bye!
The bait/tackle shows will also tell you where to go and the best tides to
fish.
Let us know how you make out.
-Joe-
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420.5 | caution!! | CUERVO::GATH | | Wed Jul 22 1987 10:07 | 43 |
| This is for anyone who is trying the salt for the first time...
The mouth of the Merrimack can be and is considered in bad weather
as one of the most dangerous ports on the east coast.
It is difficult to catch fish in the channel. ( not impossible )
Bass love the rips. You may see a boat over in a particular area
fishing and they might have fish on that does not mean it is safe
for you to put your boat over in that same spot.
These men have spent years and years fishing this river and they
know where every rock is. They also know where ever rip and lie
that might hold fish.
You may also follow some boat up the river figuring he knows where
the channel is etc. etc. Wrong. Many of them are just running
around and are an accident looking for a place to happen.
I suggest you get a chart and look for the cannel and make your self
familar with the hazards.
o when leaving the jeddy going out to sea. In my opinion it is always
best to run down the north jeddy . After you get beyond the jeddy
you can cut it sharply to port and get out of the strong rip.
If you come down the center of the channel and there is a rolling
sea sometimes in a small boat you will not be able to turn around.
This rip runs for over a mile at time out to sea.
Make sure you know were Badgers rocks are. there is a red marker
there and you want to pass that on you right return; on you left
( port ) going out.
Take a walk down before you launch your boat see what the sea is
like.
The other hazards are half tide rock, Lunt rock, and there are some
sumerged rock jeddies that are marked on the cart as a dotted line
over near Woodbridge island.
Have a great time but please be careful,
sincerely Bear
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420.6 | | SKIVT::WOOD | | Wed Jul 22 1987 12:19 | 34 |
| Thanks for all the info guys. I caught some blues while out
with a friend in his boat a few years ago. we were on the
east side of the Isle Of The Shoals fishing for cod. I was
using a regular boat rod with 20lb test line and a cod rig.
We got into a bunch of small polluck (~10 in.) and I got
tired of reeling in the rod from 100ft. I felt the small tug
which was becoming to familiar, and decided to have a sandwich
and beer before reeling it up. About a minute later the line
started moving away from the boat at a rapid rate (=lunch on deck,
beer all over the place!!!). I grabed the rod and after a great
fight reeled in a 16 lb blue. The hook was positioned in his
mouth so that when he bit down he was chomping on it instead
of the mono. After this we started trolling with rebel divers.
We didn't have any steel leaders so we tied them directly onto
the line. We caught 5 or 6 more similar in size to the first.
They were rough on the lures but all were hooked so that the
line was well out of the mouth. I've found in fresh water fishing
that as the leader size I use goes up, the number of strikes
goes down. I hate going to steel leaders if not necesary even
though they are the excepted practice. Any thoughts ???
The ultra light I'll be using is a 5.5 ft ugly stick with a shakespeare
reel. It'll have 250 yds. of 4lb. stren on it. The drag on the reel
is excellent. Best fish with this setup to date has been a 4lb
landlocked salmon. I never had more than half the line out while
playing him so I figure I can manage a few more pounds. Pat,
have you caught fresh water fish with the same outfit you use for
salt ? If so, what species and pound for pound were the blues
harder fighting ?
I'll give a full report next week when I get back...
Marty
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420.7 | re: 420.6 | CTOAVX::PHILLIPS | | Wed Jul 22 1987 13:44 | 20 |
| Thoughts regarding steel leader...
Your observation about the size of leader holds as true in salt
water as it does in fresh. It may not matter as much when you've
found a school of blues in a feeding frenzy, but the rest of the
times you can cut down on the number of strikes when you have more
visible tackle.
Heavy monofilament makes a fine leader. I use 60 lb. test Ande
when going for heavier bluse (8 lbs and up), and 40 lb test when
going for smaller ones. You don't need much length unless your fishing
in fairly shallow water where your line might get pulled over bottom.
About a foot or so whould do fine.
I have fished with people who have felt that steel leader is a must,
and usually have much more fun than they have had.
Good luck.
Kevin
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420.8 | Light but not too light! | BRAT::QUINNETT | | Wed Jul 22 1987 14:46 | 23 |
| Marty, I use the baitcasting setup for fresh water and salt. I
do put a heavier weight line on for salt water. The reasons being,
I use a heavier lure and the size/fight of the fish you catch. I also
like a 4 to 6 lb test for fresh water but wouldn't rely on that
for blues or stripers. I personally don't like to throw off a $2-$5
lure because I screwed up a cast.
Pound for pound I think stripers fight equally well as largemouths
but stripers do get considerably bigger. Blues on the other hand
fight like hell.......
Sorry I didn't include the information about the DANGEROUS conditions
at the mouth of the Merrimack river. Weather conditions etc. can
produce very serious safety hazards for any size boat. I have heard
horror stories about this area. If the ocean is calm you shouldn't
have any problems except for traffic. Try to time your fishing
in this area approx. 2 hours before and after high tide. I have
been out in a 15 ft. boat (during good weather) at that time and
experienced no problems.
Good Luck
Pat
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420.9 | Keep Your Wits About You!!! | KANE::MERCURIO | | Thu Jul 23 1987 11:54 | 13 |
| A word to the wize. Check the weather forcasts (marine) before you
venture out. Pay special attention to the wind direction and speed.
If they're talking about 15mph+ winds or any wind with an easterly
component with it (ie. NE, SE, E) don't go near the mouth of the
Merrimack unless you like fudged undies or worse.... Doesn't take
much to get 8 to 10 foot rollers at the mouth.
Can be fun if you "pick your day"
Jim
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420.10 | I hate motors !!! | SEDJAR::WOOD | | Mon Jul 27 1987 13:16 | 24 |
| Well,
The trip is over...My jeep ate a transfer case before
the trip so I was forced to tow the boat with an old
Pontiac Lemans (1977-133k miles) . The car developed
a bad fuel pump on the way down. I spent half of Saturday
figuring out that this was the problem and replacing it.
I actually started fishing around 2:00 in the afternoon.
Trolled between Hampton and salisbury for several hours
with no hits. Decided to go out to Jeffreys Ledge as the
water was very smooth and at 45 mph doesn't take long.
Fished maybe a half hour(6 cod in this time frame) when
the skies became dark. I had the pleasure of being 30 miles
out in a 19ft boat in a severe thunderstorm. Made it through
this and the engine started to die out. Water in the gas
I suspect. When a good sized whale came out of the water
about a hundred feet from us I was convinced it was time to
get a bigger damn boat.
All in all I still had a great time. I need about a week down there
to really have enough time to know the area, etc. Thanks
for everyones comments,
Marty
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