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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
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418.0. "ANOTHER NH TOURNEY - SEPT." by AIMHI::TOMAS (Joe) Mon Jul 20 1987 15:26

    Now that the BIG FIASCO of Hopkinton Lake is over, it's time already
    to think about doing ANOTHER tourney...early to mid-September. 
    Given the great time and laughs we all had, I don't think it'll take 
    too much to convince us that we have to do another one!
    
    Before we decide when and where...let's open this one up for some
    input.  
    
    1. Do we do a team event or every man for himself?
    
    2. Where? 
    
    3. When?  Daytime or evening event?
    
    4. What changes to the rules (if any) would you like to see?
    
    
    My initial thoughts are...
    
    Team event...I kinda like "teaming" up.  I think it gets a little
    too "cut-throat" when you're even competing against your buddy in
    the boat.  Ya R/O, I know you prefer to go it alone...here's your
    chance to "officially" state your opinion. (in case you've forgotten
    how, type "REPLY" !)
    
    Place:  Pawtuckaway Lake is pretty good and there's plenty of open
    water for the bigger boats to open-up a little.  The launch ramp will 
    handle the larger boats with plenty of parking.  The only minor
    problem there will be is that there's not much shore to pull them up
    to when we launch or land.  We can work around that.
    
    Time:  My preference for Pawtuckaway would be evening, like at
    Hopkinton Lake.
    
    Now...let's have some input.
    
    -HoleShot Joe-
    
    PS.  WIMPS-OUTS need not reply!
    
    
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418.1MIGHTY::DILSWORTHKeith Dilsworth DTN 264-5245Mon Jul 20 1987 17:0517
>>>>    My initial thoughts are...

If you thought, you wouldn't open yourself up for more abuse.



>>>    1. Do we do a team event or every man for himself?
       A team event.
    
>>>    2. Where? 
       Hopkington
    
>>>    3. When?  Daytime or evening event?
       September 19,  8AM - 4PM
    
>>>    4. What changes to the rules (if any) would you like to see?
       All those "Big Bass Boats" must go in and play "stumpa jumpa"
418.2TOPCAT::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Tue Jul 21 1987 10:3914
    I could go for Keith's idea, another Hopkington (team) event...
    and the 19th is good, it doesn't conflict with the ABC schedule...
                           
    However if we did go 8am-4pm, I'd suggest a noon weigh-in...
    It'd be tough for the people without aerated livewells to keep the
    fish alive for 8 hours...  don't want to be weighing in too many
    dead fish...
                                          
    as a matter of fact, stopping for a weigh in at the middle of the
    event, may prove to be rather hilarious, with the likes of the dynamic 
    duo wandering around piling up their excuses...
    
    donmac
    
418.3HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Jul 21 1987 12:068
    Closer to Mass if you want the mass people to come again.  
    The last one was too far..
    
    If you have a large amount of entries make it a 50%, 30%, 20% split
    and a lunker pool.

    Bassin Bob   2nd to only the best.
    
418.4Do it up!WORDS::RYANTue Jul 21 1987 13:3610
    Mr. Bass here!
    
    Same rules , same entry fee's , same format, different place,
    flexible to time changes , but the best fishing is at night!
    Then again , if you don't catch anything, it doesn't matter what
    time! I am not going to start any trouble, had a great time and
    looking forward to the next tourny!
    
    The only Mr. Bass - Chris Ryan
    
418.5VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesTue Jul 21 1987 14:0117
    I now a lot of guys at the Hudson Mass. plant that would love to
    get in on this tourney but it has to be closer to Mass. like Bob
    said.  We could have one hell'va time!  Maybe we could go to a place
    that has a picnic area...We could have a barbeque and then start
    fishing at 2:00 and end at 9:00 or 10:00.  This would give me more
    time to do some mud slinging!!  We had such a good time Saturday
    I could just imagine what laughs we would have if it was North
    against South.  I buy a Mass. License every year so I don't have
    a problem with fishing in Mass.  For those who don't have a licenses
    for Mass..It will only cost you 7-10:00 for a three day one.  I'll
    be there no matter where it is held.  
    
    Joe let me know if I can help in anyway.  I know of a few good spots
    in Mass. that would be equal driving time for all!
    
    							The Legend
    
418.6"need more input..."AIMHI::TOMASJoeTue Jul 21 1987 14:2018
Thanks for the offer of help, John.  I'll let you know.

I agree that a body of water closer to Mass. would make it more inviting and 
certainly increase the chances of a BIG turnout.  However, one body of water 
that I personally didn't care for (and I know several others that agree) was 
Monomonac.  Granted, Monomonac allows Mass and NH fisherman to fish with 
their own state license because it borders both states, but I didn't feel as 
though it had any real potential.  

So let's have some more suggestions of where...and when...and time of day.

I liked the Legend's idea of a cookout before we started...it would give us 
plenty of time to get REAL fired up with a lot of name-calling and 
mud-slinging...primarily aimed at Mr. DRAINO and ROTER-ROOTER himself!
(...here we go again!...no...wait....until we decide when and where....I'll 
retract that last comment...)

-HoleShot-
418.7COOKOUT GOOD IDEAHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue Jul 21 1987 16:045
    I'll second that Monomonac sucks!!  what about the merimack?
    
    cook out good idea I can still smell steak on my ranger's rugs!
    bbp
    
418.8A vote for MASSCAD::PRUNIERTue Jul 21 1987 17:4114
    
    
    	I would like to try my luck at one of these tourney's (I am
    a terrible bass fisherman- so no boasting from this end!!) but
    I really don't want to travel to N.H. and register the boat an all
    that either. There are many, many bass ponds/lakes in Mass. that
    should fill the bill. I know of one that a 15 lber (the current
    state record) and MANY 6-10 lb fish have been caught from.
    Mass I believe also allows N.H registered boats on her waters without
    having to get a special or temporary reg. So how bout it, get some
    fresh blood at one of these tourneys and have it in MASS.!!
    		
    						Shakey Steve
    
418.9MIGHTY::DILSWORTHKeith Dilsworth DTN 264-5245Wed Jul 22 1987 12:0212
    re: .8

    Steve,

    Do you really believe Mass would accept a NH inland boat registration?

    Mass accepts coast guard registration only, reguardless of state.
    Mass will gladly register our boats for $$$ and won't even charge us
    sales tax if we can PROVE we already paid it, or have had the boat 
    registered, for two years, in another state.
        
    keith
418.10WE'LL WORK SOMETHING OUT!VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesWed Jul 22 1987 12:595
    If thats the case...we'd better start looking at water that hangs
    on the border of both states.  I'd go nuts if the Legend Mobile
    was seized!!
    
    						The Legend
418.11VAX4::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Wed Jul 22 1987 13:177
    i'm pretty sure that monomonac is the only lake between the 2 states,
    but there must be a few rivers - such as the merrimack.  has anyone
    ever gone bass'n in the merrimack around the tyngsboro/nashua line?
    
    also, during the discussion on last years mass tourny, it seemed
    to be the popular belief that mass DID recognise nh boat registrations
    - has anyone got the real skinny in black and white???????????
418.12Rule Change!!!!!!!!MENSCH::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishWed Jul 22 1987 13:2628
    That's me...
    
    Why wait till Sept??? why not in August sometime?? And then again
    in Sept. These have been fun since we started them a year ago, so
    why not two more. If we wait till Sept. we might not be able to
    get another one in. What say????
    
    One other rule change......You must have a live well of some sort!!!
    Seeing that 4 lb'er and several others all frozen up made me sick!!!!
    
    That is not what we are about....at least most of us. No stringers
    either....must be a live well of some sort, with aeration. A cooler
    or whatever, but something that will keep them alive, and two check-
    ins if we go over four hours is a good idea. 
    
    I do second the idea of getting closer to Mass or in it if possible.
    I know that Joe is really running a N.H. tourney, and that Mass
    fishermen (persons) are invited if they want to come. We ran the
    Mass tourney last year and only Don Mac came on down for it, so
    there seems to be more interest in Mass people going to N.H. to
    fish. Based on the last  turnout. But Joe, please.....closer. That
    was one hell of a drive!!! If we are going to go that far, lets
    go to Winie.....that way everyone can do what they want and we won't
    have canoes being swamped in such close quarters.....Or some other
    bigger lake that will afford some room (and has fish).
    
    Fishless Ranger Ron (what_a_lousy_year_for_me)

418.13VAX4::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Wed Jul 22 1987 13:529
    Ron's comment about the aerated livewell's a good one...
                                                  
    BassPro sell's setups that'll turn coolers into livewells for $20-30,
    that's not a high price to pay for keeping the catch alive... 
                                                  
    I bought one last year for the 1st Mass tourny, and I think Joe made
    his out of an old bilge pump.
       
    Don Mac, C&R 
418.14AIMHI::TOMASJoeWed Jul 22 1987 14:4725
I agree with you, Ron.  Althought the last tourney was a "NH" event, it was 
open to all.  And we all certainly appreciated you guys driving that long 
distance from Mass to join in the fun.  I know that we wouldn't have had as 
much fun without you guys joining in and I'd certainly like to make the next 
one just as much fun!

As far as where to have it....that's why I opened it up for discussion.  In 
reality, there's only TWO places we could hold it without forcing people 
from either state to invest in out-of-state fishing licenses or boat 
registrations....that's either Monomonac or the Merrimack River.  We all 
know where we can launch on Monomonac....does anyone know where we can 
launch on the Merrimack that has enough parking?

I wouldn't be opposed to holding it on Winnie, either.  I've never fished 
Winnie before and it still ends up being a long drive for you Mass folks.

As far as the livewell goes...I fully agree.  I think it's important that we 
make every attempt to keep these fish alive.  I don't think it's asking too 
much to carry a large cooler to store them in.  You can pick up large 
styrofoam coolers for under $10-15 and little battery operated airators for 
under $10.  Even a canoe has room for something like this in it.

OK....let's keep the discussion going.  WHEN...WHERE...etc...

-Joe-
418.15Site????MENSCH::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishWed Jul 22 1987 15:258
    Just to open this up a bit, but not to push it to hard, can N.H.
    guys fish the Conn. River?? If so, that may be a way to get everyone
    together. I just don't know about launchs in N.H. on the river.
    We have Bartons Cove in northern Mass, that is just excellent. Just
    a thought.
    
    RR
   
418.16Great idea!SQM::FAUCHERWed Jul 22 1987 15:5519
    Great idea to have another tournament.. this last one was my first...
    I lost, but there is always the next time...
    
     Had a great time though, haven't laughed that hard in ages.
    
     About livewells and the such, how about a fish-basket... thats
    what I used, I caught my only "keeper" the first 10 minutes of this
    last tournament and he was fine still at 10:00 p.m. sent him back
    alive and kicking?
    
     A fish-basket is only about $10.00, they are a bit hard to come by
    though... I went to about 6 places around here (Nashua) and finally
    found one at Pete's on Lowel Rd. he had a bunch of 'em in two different
    sizes... worked out ok for me.
    
      Anyways, it was a blast, hope to see ya'll at the next one.
    
                                          Perry F.
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418.17VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesWed Jul 22 1987 16:0633
    We can fish the Conn. River but isn't that a haul?
    
    I just got off the phone with Mass. Fish and Game.  They said
    
    Mass. and N.H. don't have an agreement in place when it comes to
    
    boat registration.  N.H. is the only State they don't have one with.
    
    So we would have to register the boats unless we register them up
    
    here with the N.H. Coast Guard.  They said it will cost us around
    
    10.00.  The only other way thing we could look at is if we get enough
    
    of the Mass guys to show up maybe we could match up some teams....The
    
    Mass. Registered boat with the owner and a N.H. fisherman for his
    
    partner....HOLD ON...I know what everyone one is thinking....The
    
    Legend isn't a piece of meat to be fought over!  We will have to
    
    draw names...Oh the lucky son of a bitch that gets ME!!!
    
    Its just a thought...I know its a long shot!  But lets look at
    
    all the angles.
    
    						The Legend
    
    
    
    
418.18VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesWed Jul 22 1987 16:1211
    Great Perry....glad to see you can make the next one!  I'll need
    
    a sucker to fetch my boat at the next one!  GOD only knows what
    
    they will try to do to the Legend Mobile at the next one!
    
    			Thanks for getting canoe...sucker..I MEAN PAL!
    
    Hey...I was real impressed with your boat!!
    
    						The Lovable Legend 
418.19A better wayWAYWRD::WAITKEVICHThe BASS DoctorWed Jul 22 1987 16:133
    I think the correct and fair way to to draw cards. And the loser
    gets the legend of the swamp.
    
418.20BAUCIS::VACHONWed Jul 22 1987 16:299
    HEY GUYS THIS IS BASSOMATIC VACHON!!! BOY I'VE BEEN HAVING A GREAT
    TIME JUST READING THESE NOTES. AS FAR AS WHO GETS THE LEGEND OF
    THE LAKES SHOULD BE SOMEONE WITH A LARGE BASS BOAT BECAUSE THE
    LEGEND WOULD MAKE A GREAT ANCHOR!!
    
    SORRY I DIDN'T SHOW UP AT THE LANDING, WE HAD A HARD TIME FINDING
    THE PLACE. ANYWAYS WE HAD A GREAT TIME AT THE LAST TOURNAMENT, ALL
    WE HEARD ALL NIGHT WAS THE LEGEND AND MR BASS LAUGHING THEIR ASS
    OFF.
418.21HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysWed Jul 22 1987 17:4510
    I also checked on the conn river and Merimack. Once you cross state
    lines the new states rules apply.
    
    On the conn you would need a mass or coast guard numbers and fishing
    license below the old railroad bridge and NH above.
    
    bassin Bob
    
    Who about a mass and a nh tournament same time different states.
    
418.22AIMHI::TOMASJoeWed Jul 22 1987 17:4522
Geez, guys...this is getting more confusing all the time!  We go there...
you come here...you buy license...we buy license...you don't recognize us...
we don't recognize you...you drive a long way...we drive...etc..etc...

Realizing that it would nice to hold a tourney where people from BOTH
states can convienently attend, AND despite the general opinion of
Monomonac, I think that Monomonac ends up being the most centrally located
lake for ALL of us.  Either that or the Merrimack...and no one has indicated
that there is a good launch site.

Although I only fished Monomonac once during the spring tourney, I can't say
that I was impressed by it....maybe because I got skunked!  AND...maybe I 
didn't know the lake well enough.  Does Monomonac have a decent bass population?

Otherwise, we'll end up beating this to death and NEVER make a decision!

Before we decide, if someone lives near the Merrimack in the Methuen/Haverhill
area, please check out the launch ramp & parking situation and let us know.

Thanx....

-Joe-
418.23MIGHTY::DILSWORTHKeith Dilsworth DTN 264-5245Wed Jul 22 1987 18:1022
    re:  .12 .13 .14 etc...

    No one was more sick at the thought of the 3 dead fish than  me.   I
    had previously released, unharmed, all bass for the past 2 years.

    The  dead  fish  were  not  the  result  of  no  livewell,  but  the
    combination of:

     o  Warm temperatures

     o  Too many fish

     o  And very sorry to say  -  not  running  the  aerator  frequently
        enough



    I had no control over the first, the second was  intentional  and  I
    have ordered Bass Pro Shop's automatic timer for my aerator.


    Keith
418.24CTS,KH!JAWS::WIERSUMThu Jul 23 1987 08:3743
    
    1)  How can you say the last tourney was fun?  The Back Deck WIZARD
        was not there!
    
    2)  Let's settle this for the last time.  At the time I wrote the
        note blasting BB and his standings crap, He had one whole touney
        under his belt that I wasn't able to attend. At that time I
        was still ahead of him in THE STANDINGS.  You remember- Check
        the standings Knuckle head.  OK, BB doesn't respond.  Then BB
        Puts in a note (several days later) that says " I checked the
        standings and I am Ahead of you".  That's after he fished another
        tourney without me. At this time I must admit that BB after
        having fished TWO tourneys that I didn't even enter is a few
        ounces ahead of me IN THE STANDINGS.  No excuses but it may
        be of interest that I fished the night tourney with 103 degree
        tempature and was later taken to the hospital and diagnosed
        with pneumonia.  I lost a week of work and missed the -HJ- tourney
        along with the singletary tourney that allowed BB to EEEKE ahead. 
        Enough of this.  young BB knows in his heart that he CAN'T 
        compete with TBDW.
  
    3)  I am in favor of a Late Aug, ealy Sept tourney.
    
    4)  MAgodamomanok is fine.
    
    5)  The river is fine.    
    
    6)  How about a tourney in March at WEST POINT? (That's if BB's
        father will let him take the family boat that far out of town)
    
    7)  A WEST POINT tourney will open it up to alot of folks up and
        down the coast.  Let's hear from you folks from maine to Fla.
        That should even include ole COONASS ect.
    
    Thanks for all the cards and letters, I am feeling better.
    
    T B D W 
     
    
    
    
     
        ahead of you".
418.25Merrimack infoVICKI::DODIERThu Jul 23 1987 09:0129
    	There is a launch in Haverhill at the Haverhill yacht club that
    you may be able to use for a fee. There is no license required to
    fish the Merrimack from the Haverhill rest area to the mouth. There
    is also a launch at Red Slavits on the Haverhill/Groveland line
    which may also be available for a fee. 
    	There are some smallmouths in this area as I saw them caught on 
    shad darts while shad fishing this past year. I have never fished
    the Merrimack this close to the mouth specifically for bass so I
    don't know for sure how well it will produce, but at least the fishing
    licence won't be a problem. If you don't get bass you may run into
    some schoolie stripers. This would even make getting skunked (bass
    wise) a lot of fun.
    	As far as the live well is concerned, unless the temps are
    extremely warm I seldom ever have problems with a stringer. We did
    lose one out of three but that is an exception rather than the rule.
    For what it's worth all 3 were alive when we pulled up to the ramp.
    The same can happen (as already noted) with a live well and to try
    and use one in a canoe really handicaps you in some instances. My
    battery (which wasn't at full charge for the tourny) barely got
    us back to the ramp. If I had a cooler/aereator set-up I would have
    either been paddling back to the ramp, had dead fish, or both. The
    alternative to this is periodically refilling the cooler. This is
    not only time consuming, (3 fish in 1 cooler on hot day = change
    water every 10 minutes) but could also be dangerous in a canoe.
    I had to do this once for a touney in Maine and will never do it
    again. The end result out of 5 fish caught was 2 dead fish and 1 lost 
    (jumped out of styrofoam cooler).

    RAYJ
418.26AIMHI::TOMASJoeThu Jul 23 1987 09:0920
Hey, WEST POINT sounds g-r-e-a-t!   

Then...
	we ALL drive a long way...

		we ALL register our boats...

			we ALL buy new licenses...

				and I COME HOME DIVORCED!!!

Thanks, Gary...but like I said before, until I get 3-weeks vacation, there's
NO WAY the ole lady would let me give up vacation time to go FISHING for a
WHOLE week!  She's just not that understanding of my passion for fishing!

BTW....sorry you were sick...I'm glad you're feeling better....and it's too
bad you missed out on our tourney - it was a blast.  Did you get a copy of
my "special" map I made JUST FOR YOU??

-Hj-
418.27Another Legend fades away...SQM::FAUCHERThu Jul 23 1987 09:1124
    Re: .18
    
     Hey Legend, I wouldn't miss the opportunity to see "the Legend
    fall again".... about "fetching" that "floating cigarette butt",
    oops, I mean canoe of yours... ya still owe me $15.00 bucks! (-:
    
     I hafta ask you one other question though : why is it you call yourself
    "The Legend", it couldn't be a result of your fishing expertise
    (even I have a hard time holding a straight face when I say that)?
    
     Glad ya liked my boat though, maybe, just maybe, on this next
    tournament (wherever it is) I *may* let ya sit in it (but I doubt
    it)... 
    
     BTW... I figured out why I was only able to get one fish that night...
    it's because I had touched the "legend-mobile", talk about bad luck.
    Whatta way to start a tourny (sigh).
    
      I tell ya what, for a small fee, I will tow you out to the
    "hot-spots" on this next one, whatdya say? (-: 
    
                                
                            Perry F.
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418.28MerrimackWORDS::RYANThu Jul 23 1987 09:1919
    Mr Bass here again!
    
    I have fished the Merrimack about five times, there is a nice launch
    in Nashua down past the old American Inn, a map and it would be
    real easy to find, there is ample parking, and according to several
    guy's I have talked too, they feel a State record Smallmouth ,yes
    smallmouth will be taken out of there, my girlfriend caught a nice
    3 lb fish last year! I won't go into details on what I caught......
    The water is clean, but there are rocks when the water level is
    down, the dam, in Manchester keeps the water level changing. There
    are more launches but they are much further north! Plenty of room
    for a Bar-b-q too. What is this bologny the LEGEND is looking for
    a partner, he is stuck with Mr. Bass, so all you other glory seekers
    can wait in line! Legend I miss you already!
    
    
    Mr. Bass
    
    Joe , if you need more info , drop me a line.....
418.29HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Jul 23 1987 09:5016
    re .28
    >Ledgend I miss You
    
    Sounds Like a P-Town tournament coming!!!
    
    .26  > We all have to regester our boats..
    
    Only the NH people will because there state is to cheap to let go
    of it regestration shit and go with the coast guard numbers!
    
    .26 >special Map..
    
    I have it and he will get it!
    
    bbp
    
418.30LETS DO IT!!! REVENGE IS SO SWEET!VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesThu Jul 23 1987 10:1755
RE.24
     " How can you say you had fun"....The Legend and Mr.Bass were there!

Yea...I'm real glad your feeling better!(who really gives a $#*%) Boy

I wish you could have made it...thats just what the tourney needed was

another person BAD-MOUTHING the Legend.

RE.26
       Does anyone have Joe's home phone?  I'd like to call his wife

and ask her what she thinks about Joe calling her a an "OLE LADY"!

RE.27
      I was wondering the same thing..."why didn't I catch a fish"  I'll

tell you why...it was because you broke the MAGIC when your toilet hit the

Legend Mobile.  As for the name Legend...Well one day I was out fishing as

a boy and the sky opened ...I heard a devine VOICE that said, " YOU ARE TO

BE THE LEGEND OF THE LAKES"  What the hell was I surpose to say...NO!!!

Make sure you bring your boat to the next one...we're going to have a 

cookoput and I want to fill your boat with charcoal for the barbaque pit!

When I saw it ...I said.."That thing has to be good for something!"

RE.28 
      Easy Mr. Bass....lay off the hugs and kisses over the terminal..these

clowns are going to start thinking I took a walk on the WILD SIDE!!  

We shall ride again...SOON! 

    Lets get this show on the road.  I agree with Ron "no fish" that we should

have a couple of them...one in August the other on the 19th of Sept.

Maybe we could do one in Mass and the other in N.H.

    Joe start laying down some info here, name a lake, and lets do it!

If you can't handle this we'll get the BOSS of your house to start the

ball rolling....STOP being such a frig'in WIMP and lay down the law!

						The Legend
    
   

418.31Like my wifes boat? Her truck?CGVAX2::HAGERTYJack Hagerty KI1XThu Jul 23 1987 11:417
    Well - sign me and old Rick "sky" King up for the next one.
    Also I agree with one in August as well as September. Now im
    not gonna say anything about who got what because the catch
    is inverse to the number of notes folks put in here. (sorry)
    
    Donmac - this ABC thing this sat nite - can anyone show up?
    (like me?) is the ramp the same one we used last year?
418.32Fo de Champanyship!!DPDMAI::BEAZLEYThu Jul 23 1987 12:136
    Wan de weter gots too cold up dere, chou kin hab a "fis-off" an
    com down chere wid de winners!! As usual ole Coonass got de pleece
    an de lake, so bring on de winners an we see who de best. Dis way
    eberybody fishin in a new pleece.
    
    War dis West Pointy?? Is is wey out west, lak mebbe Lafayette??
418.33ABACUS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Thu Jul 23 1987 12:1511
    Jack, yeap, we do allow outsiders, and yeap, same place...
    
    BTW, fellow ABCer's, my partner and I will not be able to make this
    one... too bad, it just may be the most productive one yet...
    
    and to keep with the subject matter at hand, I, too, was one of the 
    ones who vowed never to return to Monomonac... but... if it means
    we could all get together for some fun & fish'n, what the hell...

    don mac
                                               
418.34WHAT THE HELL DID HE SAY!WORDS::RYANThu Jul 23 1987 12:228
    This is the Legend!  Using his partners terminal...after reading
    note .32 I got so pissed off I couldn't wait to go back to my own
    desk.  
    
    C A N    S O M E O N E    T E A C H   H I M    T O    S P E L L
    
    
    							LEGEND
418.35More on the MerrimackDSSDEV::CHANThu Jul 23 1987 13:2111
    RE: the Merrimack
    
    About 3 weeks ago the Manchester newspaper (I think the Union) had
    an article on the City of Manchester's sewage treatment plant. 
    They are years away of having enough equipment to treat the amount
    of sewage the city produces.  They are currently dumping 3 million
    gallons of raw sewage into the Merrimack a day.  If you guys do
    decide to fish the Merrimack, you may want to think twice before
    jumping in for a swim.
    
    Kenney
418.36HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Jul 23 1987 13:324
    Hay HJ  your wife would WHAT!!!  I see who wears the pants in that
    family!
    bbp
    
418.37no swimmin for me, just lots a fishJAWS::WIERSUMThu Jul 23 1987 13:389
    from what I know of most of the folks fishin this fiasco,  they
    want the Merrimack for the swimming!
    
    they sure haven't caught any fish.  RR doesn't like to swim, I don't
    know what he will do.
    
    don't forget you fins -HSJ-
    
    
418.38DECISION HAS BEEN MADE!!AIMHI::TOMASJoeThu Jul 23 1987 13:5936
OK folks, this is gonna go one FOREVER!!!  SO...in the interest of making 
the next tourney easy for EVERYONE to attend...

		PLACE:  Monomonac Lake
		DATE :  September 19th
		TIME :  7 AM to 3 PM  (open for discussion)

I doubt the marina will allow use to have a "cookout" at the launch, 
however, we could take a 1 hour break at noon for a weigh-in and lunch.

Regardless of WHERE it ends up taking place, it's gonna be inconvenient for 
SOMEONE.  At least Monomonac doesn't require anyone to buy an out-of-state 
license or cough up more $$$ to register their boat differently.  Plus, the 
lake is large enough for you guys with big boats to go faster and make 
BIGGER WAKES...so take heed ROTO-ROOTER!

Hey Legend...don't go badmouthing my Cajun friend, Ole Coonas Bob or he'll 
sick his pet, little Phideaux, on you!!!  (BTW...if you haven't taken the 
time to read ALL the real early notes and replies in this notesfile, 
Phideaux is Coonass' pet 12' alligator!)

As far as an August event goes, I'll be on vaction so someone else will have 
to sponsor/coordinate that one.

OK...now that the decision has been made and I've probably pissed off a few 
potential attendees...let's start having some registrations!

Basic rules will be as in the last tourney, however, I'll re-post them 
later.  If we get as many (or hopefully, more) teams as at Hopkinton, I 
think we can do a 50-30-20 payout.  I propose upping the ante a little to...
say...$20/boat and $5/person for the Hawg pool.  Anyone object??

One more thing...there's a $3 boat launch fee.  To make things easy for all, 
I'll collect it as well and pay the marina when we haul our boats out.

-Hj-
418.39Pool $$$$$$WORDS::RYANThu Jul 23 1987 14:2419
    
    I totally diagree with the payoff scheme, half of the idiots that
    make sixty thousand a year in this place still have the underwear
    they wore in highschool! Digital has the types where you go out
    to lunch and everyone gets a sandwich, and then you have the manager
    that orders a filet and stiffs everyone else with the tab! The pool"One
    boat takes all", if they want the money that bad have them dust
    off there withdrawal slips and take a trip to the bank once in a
    while! 
    
    Sad but true!
    
    No charge for the LEGENDMOBILE at the launch!
    
    MR. Bass 
    
    B-BQ on the back of MR. Bass's truck, tailgate party!
    
    
418.40no one home at 7:00HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Jul 23 1987 14:408
    No one there at 7:00 am to collect we did not pay a thing at the
    last one!
    
    I like the 50 30 20 helps buy the bear after and may attract more
    people, because some people don't think they can win so why go but
    maybe second or third�!
    
    Bassin Bob
418.41THE LEGEND SAYS..50-30-20VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesThu Jul 23 1987 14:4311
    OH WOOOOWW!  Easy partner.....EASY....!
    
    B-Q sounds great..Perry bring your boat...I've got a nice piece
    of chain-link fence we'll use for the grill on top of the boat!
    
    I'll talk to my partner...I like the 50-30-20 idea..put the stakes
    
    up to 10.00 a man 5.00 a man for the lunker, it will still be a
    nicepay day at 50-30-20.
    
    Mr. Bass....sit back and relax...I'll be down to see ya!
418.42DO YOU WANT BEAR OR BEER! WE TRADE BASS FOR BEERS SVENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesThu Jul 23 1987 14:453
    RE.40
    
    THATS THE WAY TO KEEP THINKING TOO!  2ND OR 3RD!!!!!
418.43Bassin BoobWORDS::RYANMR. BASSThu Jul 23 1987 14:548
    re: .40
    
    Bassin Bob, I heard you make sixty Thousand a year!
    
    Is second or third enough to make a payment on that piece
    of S*** boat!
    
    Mr. Bass
418.44AIMHI::TOMASJoeThu Jul 23 1987 15:1433
Hey, Bob...just because YOU didn't pay to launch and screwed the marina out 
of their fees doesn't mean everyone else didn't pay.  FAIR IS FAIR!!

If you can afford a Ranger...ya can afford $3 to launch it!  Besides, with a 
50-30-20 split, there's a good chance you can win some $ to pay the fee.
If the $3 is gonna break you, maybe we'll take up a collection.  BUT...
if we don't come up with enough donations, it looks like you don't fish!!
(I doubt if RAYJ will donate though....{sorry..})

Maybe someone that lives close to the marina can stop in or call them to see 
how they feel about portable grills for a BBQ at lunch time.

As far as the 50-30-20 payout goes, assuming we get 15 teams, this is what 
the payout would be:

	1st Place Team .... $150

	2nd Place Team .... $ 90

	3rd Place Team .... $ 60

	Hawg Pool ......... $150

So even the third place team ends up doubling their money!

NOW...cut out all the BS and start registering.



  TEAM
=====================================
HoleShot Joe and secret partner (I'll keep you guessing)

418.45WE'LL BE THERE!VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesThu Jul 23 1987 15:276
    
    
                   AND HERE ARE THE FAVORITES!!!
    
    
         THE LEGEND OF THE LAKES AND MR. BASS ARE IN!
418.46HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Jul 23 1987 15:413
    Hay Mr. *ss at least my boat did not DROP the stringer over the
    side!!
    
418.47HPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysThu Jul 23 1987 15:447
    Hay hsj  Not saying That I Can't afford to pay $3.00  I am just
    telling you what happended at the last one.
    
    And They will give a group discount.  Call them.
    
    Bassin Bob
    
418.48You taking ALL August off??CGVAX2::HAGERTYJack Hagerty KI1XThu Jul 23 1987 15:544
    We will still be there... Jack Hagerty - Rick King 
                              lavender boats catch fish.
    Does "secret partner" mean your still having troble getting
    someone to go?
418.49enough said...SQM::FAUCHERThu Jul 23 1987 15:5633
 Re. : .30

 Hey Legend, 

 the only "MAGIC" that day was that your "Legend-mobile" (Hyuk, ya'll hafta 
see this thing to believe it), didn't sink??!!??

 That was 'real' magic....

 You know though, reckon I am sorta curious..... what the heck would you 
have done if you would have been "lucky" enough to have caught a fish???

 I don't think the Legend-mobile could have stayed afloat (talk about a "
Livewell").

 About that "voice" you heard, after seeing you fish, I suspect it had to 
have been your stomach growling (hey, steak with Fish Scent will do it to 
ya), and you just interpreted it the way you wanted.

 About my boat, you're correct, it is good for something :

 It's good for.....

A.) Saving Legend-mobiles (still don't know how that thing kept afloat)

B.) Skunking Legends in their own time.


                Have a nice day...

                            Perry F.  (Legend-Buster)
                           ----------
 
418.50TBDW & RR ARE INJAWS::WIERSUMThu Jul 23 1987 16:088
    
    
    TBDW     and      Ole RR       
    
    
    I'll see if I can get RR up for catchin some fish this time out.
    nice boat though Ron
    
418.51TOPCAT::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Thu Jul 23 1987 17:161
    don mac and bri (or reasonable facsimile thereof) will be there
418.52They're beating down my doors!AIMHI::TOMASJoeThu Jul 23 1987 17:5014
No, Lavender...I have no problem getting a partner...I just have trouble 
picking the one I'd like to have as a partner.  I mean...there's soooo many 
people out there wanting to fish with HoleShot!  Just last night I got calls 
from several guys that I said I'd get back to them...Roland Martin, Ricky 
Clunn, and Doug Hannon...  These guys just won't leave me alone!

Well, at least now we're starting to get some people to sign up.

BB, I think you're right about the group discount.  Can you find out how 
much of a discount it is?  Also, about the BBQ grills.

-HoleShot Joe- 


418.53let's clean up our actHPSCAD::WHITMANAcid rain burns my BASSFri Jul 24 1987 09:1928
<                         -< WHAT THE HELL DID HE SAY! >-
<
<    This is the Legend!  Using his partners terminal...after reading
<    note .32 I got so pissed off I couldn't wait to go back to my own
<    desk.  
<    
<    C A N    S O M E O N E    T E A C H   H I M    T O    S P E L L

			<<<<<<<	FLAME ON >>>>>

Where do you get off pissing on Coonass? 

I find three quarters of your entries in this file offensive.  Coonass may be
a little tougher to understand, but everything he says is done in a friendly,
joking manner, unlike you who can't enter a single sentence without putting
somebody else down.

Coonass (among others) in this conference adds a color and international flavor
which keeps this file from becoming just a bunch of fishermen swapping lies.

Unlike Ole Coonass, I haven't heard you open your house, boats, fish camp, honey
hole and expertise to any and all in this notes file.  If I were Coonass, my
offer to take you fishing out in the bayou would still stand, I just wouldn't
offer to bring you back out again. 

			<<<<<<<	FLAME OFF >>>>>
 
							Al
418.54SEEMS ..AL HAS A HAIR ACROSS HIS BASS TODAY!VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesFri Jul 24 1987 10:4126
    Cool your jets Al...I don't know what your problem is today
but don't take it out on me!  If you can read between the lines you would
know I'm just busting everyones chops.  If you don't like my style ...TUFF!!

    In no way, did I mean anything personal against ole Coonass when I replied
to his letter.  I would love to meet the guy.  He sounds like a hot ticket
and doesn't sound like he's a stick in the mud...like SOME people in this 
file.

    Everything I say in this notes file or at the tournaments about other
peoples equipment, or what have you, it is said in FUN, and if you start taking
me serious than you've got a BIG problem. 

    Coonass....I apoligize to you if you have taking any offense to my reply.
Its obvious Al has a problem with it!!

Al, there isn't to much more I can say...But if you can't take a joke...don't
bother reading the notes concerning the tournaments we are planning...and
whatever you do....DON'T come to one....its guys like you that ruin the
fun for others who can lighten up and take a joke!

							John Waters

FLAME OFF.......Come'on Al ...you can do better than that!

418.55bbq wiardJAWS::WIERSUMFri Jul 24 1987 10:5910
    
    I love that FLAME stuff.  Keep it up boys
    
    about the bbq  It could at any beach or whatever,  the idea of eating
    at the ramp sux anyway
    
    Just a thought
    
    THE bbq Wizard
    
418.56Flame on and offHEFTY::CUZZONESThe jerk on the dry endFri Jul 24 1987 11:1422
    Mr. Legend,
    
    Some of us have not yet met you in person, and our impressions of you
    have come solely from your notes/replies in this conference.  There
    is a tradition and protocol in these conferences that takes the
    place of face-to-face conversation.  Since I can't see your face
    when you insult somebody, I don't know when you're tongue is firmly
    planted in your cheek and when you're smiling and winking.  I have
    to assume, lacking a "wink" or "smiley face", that you are serious.
    
    I am willing to believe that you ARE an OK guy, you're certainly
    an interesting character, but you need to learn how to phrase things
    so others are not offended when no offense is intended.  The result,
    otherwise, is that some of us will not see you as the fun-loving,
    regular-guy and all around good sport that you might be.  This is
    not SOAPBOX, and I'd like to think that we're all friends here.
    
    Mr. Moderator, perhaps you could point the Legend of the Storm Drains
    (  ;-)  ) to the etiquette section in the notes documentation. 
    
    
    Steve
418.57What IS funny anyway ?ELWOOD::WEISBACHFri Jul 24 1987 11:305
    
    I'm with Al.  You don't have to tell him to get lost just
    because you don't like his opinion.
    
    Diana
418.58VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesFri Jul 24 1987 11:4015
    I realize what your saying MUN!  I'll try to behave in the future
    until you meet me!  Then when you see how I smile while I tear you
    and your fishing skills apart..you'll know I'm only kidding!
    
    Com'on guys....If GOD talks to me...I can't be all bad!
    
    At least he hasn't asked me to come up with a few million!;-)
    
    HE did say,
    
         that the next tournament is mine!
    
                                               The LOVABLE Legend
                                                   -------
    
418.59LETS GET BACK TO THE TOURNEY..VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesFri Jul 24 1987 11:445
    RE.57    Enough said...Lets not turning this thing into a pissing
    
    contest.  Al made his point and I made mine...Let it go!
    
    						John
418.60the legendPHILEM::VACHONFri Jul 24 1987 11:5313
    Boy I never thought I would do this but here it goes!!!
    for those of you who never met the legend (better known as Johnny
    J to his old coworkers) he is one of the funniest guys i ever met!!
     I'm sure he's never meant to affend anybody in his messages, you
    have to just meet this guy he's one in a million (thank god!!)
    so when ever your reading the legend messages, what ever you do
    just don't take him seriously. The only thing i take seriously from
    the legend is offers for his wife!! by the way john how is your
    wife and my kids?
    
    Bass-o-matic Martial
    
418.61GET BACK TO THE SUBJECT!ASGMKA::TOMASJoeFri Jul 24 1987 12:459
Geez....I step out for a couple of hours and things get TOTALLY out of hand. 
The purpose of this note was to get another TOURNEY going...not to rank each 
other out!  Let's get back to the subject at hand, HUH!?!

AND...just to keep this note from getting TOO long like the last tourney 
note, I created a NEW note (# 424.0) for name-calling and mud-slinging.
So let's keep it out of here and let just ONE NOTE GO CRAZY!!

-HSJ-
418.62Count me in.MIGHTY::DILSWORTHKeith Dilsworth DTN 264-5245Fri Jul 24 1987 12:5016
    I spoke with David Watts, who works in WAO and happens to live at
    Monomonac Lake.  He is a member of an association thar owns a
    beach on the north end and has kindly consented to let us use
    it for a cookout.   It is not large enough for the cars and 
    trailers but has a lagoon and sandy beach we could pull the boats
    up to.  He even said they had a 55 gal drum with a grate for
    cooking on.  The only drawback is its aprox 4mi from the launch
    which is a haul for the canoes.

    I propose we could:

    Fish 7AM to 11AM.
    Have a cookout 11AM to 12:30PM
    Fish 12:30 to 4:40

    keith
418.63ABACUS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Fri Jul 24 1987 13:043
    Alright Keith!  Sounds like a good spot to me!
                                  
    donmac
418.64Good show, Keith!ASGMKA::TOMASJoeFri Jul 24 1987 13:1112
Yeah...thanks, Keith.  I know exactly where you mean as I fished that area 
last time I was there.  The only problem with the spot is, as Keith said, is 
that it's at the far end of the lake.  Canoes and the like would have a 
tough time getting there, and IF we have a noon-time break for a weigh-in 
and BBQ, it would have to MANDATORY for all.  One possible solution would be 
for a couple of the power boats to give the canoes a tow there and then let 
them fish back towards the launch site after lunch.  (I can see it now... 
Bassin Bob giving the Legend a tow...at 70 MPH!!)

No matter WHAT we do...it will end up being an inconvenience for someone.  

-HSJ-
418.65ABACUS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Fri Jul 24 1987 13:165
    hey Joe, I have to say that the towing of canoes sounds like trouble
    to me...  canoes are too unstable for that... sounds too dangerous
    and time consuming to me...
    
                         
418.67THIS IS GOING TO BE ONE BIG PARTY!VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesFri Jul 24 1987 14:3415
    I won't need a tow to the cookout seen...Mr. Bass and I are coming
    in a new mobile....Wait till you see this baby....By the time This
    tourney comes around I'm going to have so many ideas floating around
    in my head our boat will look like a float in the New Years Day
    parade!!  You'll know when we arrive on to the seen!
    
    Hey...Bass'in BOOB!  I won't need a lift...I was thinking the same
    thing Joe was!
    
    I'd ask Don Mac for a Lift but I don't think his boats got the power.
    
    Keith...Can I sst up my own pit?....Mr. Bass and I want to roast
    a pig!!!
    
    							The Legend
418.68THERE WILL BE NO COMPETITIONHPSCAD::BPUISHYSBob PuishysFri Jul 24 1987 15:0130
      		������� N E W S  F L A S H !!!!!!!

	It has finally happened.   All you PERCH PULLERS (RR) and 
big goose-egg fisherman (legend, Mr. Bass) STAND BACK!!!!

	A new Team has now been entered to this event.

	   The 1987 DEC BASS TOURNAMENT winner
	    The King of the Granite State Open
		      RICH "R/O" PALMER

		            &

	The 1986 FIRST MASS DEC BASS TOURNAMENT winner
		with the Brandeeee new ranger
		   BASSIN' BOB PUISHYS

Lets make this a winner take all tournament because this team is going
to clean house or should it be lake or even wallet on this one.
HJ is out to lunch, Don Mac buy a real boat then look for a partner.
The BEST stick together and the best will be Palmer/Puishys.
Hay tbdw and RR don't even waste your time at this one!

There will be no more confusion on who will be crowned:
	" THE BEST BASS FISHING TEAM IN DEC "

	BASSIN BOB PUISHYS / RICH R/O PALMER.

enter at your own risk of EMBARRASSMENT!!
418.69JAWS::WIERSUMFri Jul 24 1987 15:154
    
    I thought Palmer was a pretty nice guy when I met him.
    I had no idea he was stupid
    
418.70VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesFri Jul 24 1987 15:401
    STUPID...He's a MORON!  He fished with Tomas at the last one!
418.71MIGHTY::DILSWORTHKeith Dilsworth DTN 264-5245Fri Jul 24 1987 16:108
    re.67

    Damn....  And here I was going to offer some transportation assistance
    to the Legend.  Thought I'd take a 100 yard head start and give the 
    "Legend Mobile" a push.  

    
    Keith
418.72VENOM::WATERSThe Legend of the LakesFri Jul 24 1987 16:295
    Your all heart Keith...Your stinger of winning tournaments is coming
    to an end....I'm going to bring my mounted Bass to the next one!
    
    How did you cover the screw holes in the back?
    
418.73USE 424 FOR YAKIN'!AIMHI::TOMASJoeFri Jul 24 1987 16:574
C'MON GUYS....MOVE THE COMMENTS AND MUD-SLINGING TO 424!

-HSJ-    

418.74VAX4::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth Bass...Thu Jul 30 1987 10:2111
    been noticing a bunch of names that have been popping in out of
    different notes - but have yet to get into this one and regester...
    
    don't let the title of this note fool ya, this next tourny is an
    interstate event....        sign up now!
    
    hey, joe, do you think you may want to start a new note that doesn't
    imply it's just a NH event...?  besides, this one's so full of ball
    bust'n it's hard to find details of the event............???????
    
    don mac
418.75TCDWJAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Aug 03 1987 15:485
    
    I have lost the details.  What the hell is the plan?
    
    
    TCDW
418.76AIMHI::TOMASJoeMon Aug 03 1987 18:4913
Geez...I dunno either.....and I STARTED THIS MESS!!

I've been sooooo busy lately (14-16 hour days!) that I really haven't had 
time to think about it.  I plan to go on vacation for 2 weeks (ahhhh) 
starting this weekend, so, before I go, I'll start ANOTHER note as a
"JOINT NH-MA TOURNEY".  Then, I'll wade thru the bullshit in this note and 
try to extract those people that registered for the Monomonac event and post 
them there.

Hopefully, (ya, sure!) we can keep the name-callin/mud-slingin/BS out of the 
new one....at least until we get close to Sept 19.

-hsj-
418.77440 is the PLACE!AIMHI::TOMASJoeWed Aug 05 1987 11:339
OK....the NEW, OFFICIAL NOTE FOR REGISTERING FOR THIS EVENT IS # 440.

Anyone who registered here in this note, please re-register in 440.

Also, please refrain from all the BSing in 440 until the last week.

Thanx...

-HSJ-