| T.R | Title | User | Personal
Name | Date | Lines |
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| 400.1 | Boat+Motor+Night=LIGHTS | AIMHI::TOMAS | Joe | Mon Jul 06 1987 16:40 | 8 |
| I believe that every state has a ruling that requires ANY powered
boat to have running lights for night-time operation. Technically,
that includes canoes with electrics although I doubt many F&G wardens
would be too strict about that one.
-Hj-
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| 400.2 | lantern ok? | CSSE::PETERSEN | | Mon Jul 06 1987 23:04 | 3 |
| Does a propane lantern count as aunning light for my canoe?
Erik.
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| 400.3 | almost ticket time!! | VLNVAX::HEDERSTEDT | T.B.S. | Tue Jul 07 1987 00:38 | 8 |
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I was fishing from a canoe with a electric motor in a small Vermont
lake and was pulled over by a Game Warden to check for a fishing
license and reistration. I asked him about canoe's with motors and
his reply was "if it has a motor,it must be registred!".
wayne
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| 400.4 | Not all lights are legal | MTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAU | | Tue Jul 07 1987 08:32 | 9 |
| The only approved running lights for the size boats being discussed
are a split red/green at the bow and a white light which is visible
for 360 degrees. There are additional requirements for large boats.
I don't think that the law differenciates between power and non
power in this case; for example sail boats are also required to
show lights after dark. In any event I always use lights on my boat
and my canoe for safety reasons. I use small clamp on, D cell powered
lights that cost less than $15
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| 400.5 | I see the light | VICKI::DODIER | | Tue Jul 07 1987 08:54 | 13 |
| re:2
A typical running light set-up is a red/green bow light and
a white stern light. This allows someone to determine if a boat
is coming at them or away from them at a distance.
Most boat supply stores sell battery operated suction cup/clamp
type running lights for about $8-9$.
I like to keep a light in my canoe when night bass fishing for
untying any knots/tangles. This will at least let another boat know
something is there if need be.
RAYJ
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| 400.6 | Common SENSE and safety. | FLDSVC::STAREK | | Tue Jul 07 1987 11:17 | 15 |
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The situation is for safety. If a dark night with little to
no visibility (darkness) and you hear a large boat coming closer.
ANY BOAT powered or not MUST have lights... red and green up
white in rear. It is to allow proper distance for passerbys
and also alerts other boats of which side they are approaching
and which direction they are traveling in (if any).
Canoers especially should have them.. you know there are folks
out there during the day that cause grief with improper speeds
and such... it gets hairy-er at night when one can not be seen.
I have heard a few horror stories of fatal accidents due to
no lights..
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| 400.7 | LIOSOTFW | JAWS::WIERSUM | | Tue Jul 07 1987 13:57 | 29 |
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Just to STRESS the safety aspects of lights!
Last year a freind of mine was out with his 115hp speed bullet and
was involved in a very HEAVY and terrible accident. I must say
that he is a very cautious and safety minded indevidual. On his
way back to pull his boat, he hit a swimmer. I don't mean to suggest
that swimmers should wear lights but perhaps better judgement on
the swimmers part would have told him not to be IN THE MIDDLE of
the lake after dark. The swimmers arm was almost severed. If it
wasn't for the fact that the swimmer was wearing a life jacket he
could have easily lost his life. I believe this may still be in
litigation.
I suppose that canoes and the like run the same risk as swimmers
in the middle of a lake if they can't be seen.
BTW The driver of the boat was soooo destroyed by the incident
that he sold his dream boat and as far as I know, doesn't entertain
the same dream.
Light it or stay the **** off the water
TBDW
Sorry if I got carried away with that last line
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| 400.8 | | ANGORA::BUSHEE | George Bushee | Tue Jul 07 1987 14:48 | 28 |
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I fully agree NO BOAT should be out there at night without
lights!! To get slightly off the track I'd like to relay
what happened to me last year while HAWGIN one evening.
It was around 12:30-12:45 a.m. on a fairly dark cloudy night
in a little lake in Westminster. I was out with my 16 yr. old
son enjoying the night air(not much happening in way or fish),
when my son heard a boat load of drunk kids yelling and such.
Next thing we knew we heard a motor start and low and behold
a small speed boat overloaded with kids was on the lake. I had
running lights and they didn't, well it didn't take them long
before they spotted our lights. Guess what was to take place
next? You got it, the damn fools headed right at us. For the
next 1/2 to 3/4 of an hour we were buzzed by these jerks seeing
how close they could come and not swamp us. After every pass
we'd hear one of them yell "ya ain't got a hair on yer a** if
you can't get closer..". They seemed to think it was some sort
of neat game to see us try to get the boat heading into the
wake so we wouldn't get swamped!!
Worst part of the whole deal was when I reported it to the cops,
they just made light of it like "oh well, kids will be kids.."!
Now once I did inform the cops they were out there without lights
how quickly his mindset changed to "why those little so and
so's, don't they know it's against the law to be out after dark
without lights, and did you happen to get their numbers?" I
mean give us break, what about the fact they almost sank us!!
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| 400.9 | When your out'a Bud, your out'a beer, but not ammo | VICKI::DODIER | | Tue Jul 07 1987 15:20 | 12 |
| Something like that happened to me in broad day light. The
difference being my friend and I were in a canoe. I quickly found
a good use for the empty beer bottles we had in the canoe. I just
missed splatting one on the side of the drivers head when they decided
it wasn't much fun anymore. They didn't even take us up on our offer
to follow us to shore to resolve the problem.
I know this is off the topic but I interpret supposed *games* like this
as a threat on my life and handle them accordingly. If I had a gun,
I would have used it if for nothing else other than to sink the
SOB.
RAYJ
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| 400.10 | Revenge - How sweet it is! | AIMHI::TOMAS | Joe | Tue Jul 07 1987 16:53 | 17 |
| A number of years ago a friend of mine was out in his canoe and
a similar thing happened at night. Several local-yocals decided
to have some fun by running circles around my buddy to see if they
could swamp him (they had a big ole inboard). Bob, being a
resourceful kind of guy, decided to do something about it. He grabbed
his 50' floating nylon anchor line with attached 10 pound mushroom
anchor and heaved it over, being sure to stretch the line out so
that as much of it as possible would float on the surface.
Then...the fun-lovin, beer-drinking A**holes came by again and sure
enough...ran right over the line. It only took about 2 seconds
for the prop to wind up the line around the shaft and beat the anchor
up thru the hull. I wish I could have seen it, but Bob said it
made a hell of a racket and only took about 3 minutes for the boat
to sink!
-Hj-
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| 400.11 | correction to .4 | MTBLUE::OKERHOLM_PAU | | Wed Jul 08 1987 07:30 | 9 |
| re:.2
My reply (.4) was slightly incorrect. I looked up the coast
guard laws last night and small oar powered boats do not require
the red/green etc running lights although they are strongly advised.
A white hand held light can be used.
The above is my rendering of the "Coast Guard" laws. State laws
may have different requirements. In any case I still use the standard
running lights in all cases.
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| 400.12 | Clamp on lights for sale | AIMHI::TOMAS | Joe | Thu Jul 16 1987 10:27 | 9 |
| BTW...speaking of running lights...
I've got a set of bow and stern clamp on, battery operated lights
for sale. I picked them up late last year and only used them a
couple of times. Bass Pro sells them for $9.87 each, I'll take
$10 for the pair. If anyone going to the tourney on the 18th at
Hopkinton is interested, just send me mail.
Joe
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