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399.1 | Good Questions | FLDSVC::STAREK | | Tue Jul 07 1987 11:20 | 9 |
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I have encountered a number of them myself. I do not have the
answers either. I also have the same questions!!!!
I did however have variety, pickeral,sm mouth, and lg mouth
bass and of course perch and sunfish
RES
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399.2 | Rock Bass?? | FXADM::SORRENTINO | | Tue Jul 07 1987 11:47 | 3 |
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Could you describe a rock bass?
I do not know one type of bass from another...
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399.3 | What's in a Name.......???? | MENSCH::SCHOLZ | Ron....and thanks for all the fish | Tue Jul 07 1987 12:16 | 17 |
| Unless I'm mistaken, the Rock Bass is also called a Crappie, and
some say Calico Bass.......Member of the pan-fish family and good
eating for those that care. For them to be around in good numbers
the conditions (like most fish) have to be right. I would think
of it as being a positive thing. They are alot of fun to catch and
get to two pounds or more. The average size is probably in the 3/4
to 1 pound range.
Normal bait for them is a crappie jig....small bucktail on a lead
head. They will hit small crankbaits and grubs also. When I was
growing up we use to fish for them with nightcrawlers. They like
rocks (hence the name) and deep holes in swallower water.
They have a molted color pattern in green a black. Dark top with
VERY sharp dorsel fin. Very pan fish looking, not like a bass.
Hope this helps answer the question, tightlines, Ranger Ron
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399.4 | Like a Pygmy Largemouth | ARMORY::CUZZONES | The jerk on the dry end | Tue Jul 07 1987 13:45 | 25 |
| Ron,
The rock bass I'm referring to is not a crappie. It sure is confusing
with all these regional nicknames for fish that a crappie is a calico
bass in some places and a speckled perch in others.
The rock bass I'm referring to (picked it out from the picture in
my guide to freshwater fishes of North America) is also called
"goggle eyes" among other names. It is a panfish, a member of the
sunfish family and looks like a largemouth from the front. It has
red eyes and rows of spots across its sides. I don't think they
get over 12-15" and I haven't seen one yet that weighed over 1.5
pounds. If you colored one green (they're kinda brown) and removed
the spots, it would look like a pygmy largemouth.
The places I have encountered them most frequently have been shallow
spots in small rivers, locally the Westfield and Housatonic which
are also good trout and smallmouth rivers in deeper, cooler, faster
parts.
Compared to a Crappie, they are less flat and more cylindrical in
shape, have a much larger mouth and are brown/black as opposed to
white/black. Ever seen/caught one?
Steve
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399.5 | OOPS, again....... | MENSCH::SCHOLZ | Ron....and thanks for all the fish | Wed Jul 08 1987 13:23 | 8 |
| No Steve, I haven't ever run across what you described in this area
but from the color and spots you mention, it sure sounds an awful
lot like a Kentucky Spotted Bass, also called a Redeye in the south.
But I doubt it, as they aren't suppose to range this far north....
oh well, another mystery on names....sure is fun though:^)
Sorry if my answer mislead anyone....Tight lines, Ranger Ron
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399.6 | Some more info ... | SYSENG::NELSON | E unibus plurum | Thu Jul 09 1987 12:37 | 34 |
| All the local names sure does make things confusing, and there are
a lot of misidentifications of fish caught by anglers. First in the
South, there is the spotted bass also known as Kentucky bass, Kentucky
spotted bass, Alabama spotted bass, Wichita spotted bass, etc. There
are actually three subspecies of this fish. It is often mistaken for
largemouth by many and even smallmouths. Because of this, it is believe
that many record fish might have been caught and undetected. According
to some authorities, it hybridizes in nature with the smallmouth at
times making things more difficult. When depth permits, they prefer
deeper water than the smallmouth. In Tenn., they have been caught in
depths up to 100'.
There is also the Redeye bass in the South which is a separate species.
It is also known as the shoal bass. This is very similar to the spotted
bass and the smallmouth bass. All these fish display the "red eyes".
The rock bass, also called black perch, goggle-eyes, red-eye, and rock
sunfish, is native to the northeast USA and southeast Canada. It is
found also around the Great Lakes region and south to Tenn. and Alabama.
It looks somthing like a cross between a bluegill and a black bass and
more like a bass than a sunfish. There is a black spot at the edge
of the gill cover and has the "red eyes" also.
I don't believe you have to worry about the water quality when you catch
these. They prefer small, cool, weedy lakes and streams and the outer
edges of larger lakes, always over rocky bottoms where there is no silt.
I've caught these at Quabbin before and other area ponds and they have
always been small fish. The world record is something like 3 lbs.
I can't imagine them being too threatening in a pond at least no more
than sunfish or other types of bass. I've eaten them before and they
have firm white flesh and are very good. So if you are catching some
of any size, you may want to try them out in the skillet.
Steve
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