Conference wahoo::fishing

    RE:0
    	I would take a trip down to Green's Marine on Rt. 28 in Hookset
    first. One thing BassPro doesn't stress to much is the cost of
    transporting the rig. From what I understand, this can run into
    some considerable $.
    	If you have the full or sale catalog it will list the specs on the 
    size, weight, metal type, and metal thickness. You can use these specs 
    to compare against the Sea Nymph line carried by Green's Marine.
    Green's Marine also sells complete rigs like BassPro at comparable prices. 
    They are also alot closer. 
    	Another supposed good place to check out boats is Doug Russels
    (sp?) on Rt. 20 in Worcester. He is supposed to be a very high volume
    outfit and can probably meet or beat any price you give him.
    
    RAYJ
    

    
      be very carfull about putting any money down on a boat at Doug
    Russels..  My brother in law did this to hold a deal for over night
    thinking and when he decieded not to by, they would not refund his
    money!!!!  He lost 100 bucks to these people. When he put the money
    down,it was dicussed what he was to do to get the money back if
    he did not go with deal. He was told "no problem,just send a registered
    letter and your money will be returned to you". What a bunch of
    cr*p. He went to the owners and was told "no way are you getting
    that money back.
    
     The place has just changed hands,but the same salsmen are still
    there....      Be carefull!
    
    
    						wh.

    For exactly THAT reason, I always use either a check or credit card
    for down payments. You can easily stop payment on the check within
    a couple of days, and if you write to Visa or MasterCard and explain
    the situation and tell them you refuse to pay the bill, the retailer
    will be charged back.
    
    -Joe-
      

    Re:2
    	This is a very old ploy used by any and all salesmen. I learned
    of this at an early age and as Joe said, use a check or credit card.
    If they insist on cash, I would tell them to stuff it sideways and
    walk out. 
    	I had an instance where I even had it in writting on a sales
    agreement that the deposit would be %100 refunded if I changed my
    mind for any reason. When I changed my mind, they would not honor
    their own agreement.
    
    RAYJ 

       That is why there are judge Wapners' in this world.
    You can collect TRIPLE damages for BS like that.
                                                       Denny

    To get back to the original topic, Bass Tracker
    
    I also just received the new catalog and it realy sparked my interest.
    I called my nearest Bass Tracker dealer, which is in Pueblo, Co.
    to find out how Bass Pro would work the arrangements. I wanted to
    know if I placed an order to Bass Pro, if they would in turn send
    me to my local dealer. Yes this is what would happen. In talking
    with the Pueblo dealer, Outboard Marine, in my case and they asked
    me why I wanted to order from Bass Pro, when the could give me the
    same price and deal as from Bass Pro. Here are the figures:
    
    Pro-16	$4990.00
    Shipping	  350.00   to Colorado
    Prep	  145.00
    Registration   10.00   1st year
    
    Doesn't look bad for something that I can drive away from the dealer,
    gas-up and start fishing in.
    
    Now all I got to do in convince the Little Lady, that I.....er,
    WE.... can't live without it. 
    
    Looking_for_any_excuse_to_get_a_boat
    
    John I

    Of course you could do what I did...
    
    If you just happen to have $5K+ stashed awy that she doesn't know
    about, go ahead and buy it...then tell her you WON it in a contest!
    
    Granted, I only bought ANOTHER rod 'n reel outfit for about $70...but
    if the Ole Lady found out I SPENT the $$$...she'd go APE-SH*T!
    
    I guess tha's what happens when you don't have a wife that understands
    my hobby...er passion...um...OBSESSION!
    
    -Joe-

    I am gona tell  !!!!>���  :^)
    

    Gee, thanks Bob...I heard you were a swell guy!
    

    Since the subject of Basstrackers is here I can tell you this. I
    purchased the Tournament V17 a year ago from Bass Pro shops and
    it's been great. This was about two months before they started the
    local dealer network. The cost to ship it directly to me in marlboro
    was $750.00 and the prep charge was $45.00. By the time it was all
    done I still saved myself roughly $1,500.00 over anything I could
    buy from a local marina in this area. I've taken this boat out on
    many different lakes including lake Ontario and all I can say is,
    they are very reliable, well built, stable, and I would buy a
    Basstracker again.
    
    By the way, Doug Russell's is the area dealer..
    
    al noyes

    sorry to bud in.
    
    Al did you send that letter?
    
    Bassin RANGER Bob.
    

    Doug Russels is now Marine U.S.A., or USA Marine....I cant' keep
    it straight. Whatever, it is now under new owership and there are
    some new people there, but most of the old ones, that gave the place
    its bad rep are still there. There has been some house cleaning,
    but most of it in the parts and yard personnel.
    
    The place no longer handles Ranger Boats, and now only sells Bass
    Tracker. You can get a good deal if you are willing to work for
    it and there is a complete selection of all the boats on the lot.
    If anyone is interested, I can supply you a name so you won't get
    scr**ed to bad....:^)  Russel was the kind of guy you had a love
    hate relation with......the new company, I dont' know. They still
    have top prices on all their parts, but they will deal on props
    or other large ticket items (I was quoted 10-20% off).
    
    Good luck and tight lines, Ranger Ron
    

    Bob,
    
         Yes, about a week or so after you gave it to me.
    
    By the way, have you come up with a price for your stump jumpa???
    A friend of mine is interested.
    
    
    al

    I have got an offer of $400.00 for boat and trailer only!  If your
    friend would like the entire package about $600 would be nice. 
     tell him to make me an offer fast.  I was about to let it go to
    the other guy.
    Bob
    

    I ALSO HAD PROBLEMS WITH DOUG RUSSELLS. I BOUGHT A BRAND NEW OUTDRIVE
    FOR MY BOAT. IT CAME WITH A ONE YEAR GAURANTEE THROUGH DOUG RUSSELLS.
    ONE YEAR AND ONE WEEK LATER IT BROKE DOWN. I TRIED TO GET DOUG RUSSELLS
    TO BACK IT UP. BUT THE GAURANTEE HAD ENDED ONE WEEK EARLIER AND
    THEY WOULD NOT HELP ME. JUST BEWARE!

    
    WILL TRY TO HELP ON YOUR INFO ON BASS TRACKER BOATS; I OWN A V-16
    BASS TRACKER SPECIAL,20 HP MERC,TILLER STEERING,LIVE WELL,STORAGE
    LOCKERS,ROD HOLDERS,3 CUSHIONED SEATS,AND ASSORTED SAFETY EQUIPMENT
    THAT IS STANDARD:FIRE ESTINGUISHER,PADDLE,BOW AND STERN LIGHTS.
    I PURCHASED THE BOAT THREE YEARS AGO IT LISTED FOR $3995. HOWEVER
    MANY EXTRA'S WERE ALSO PURCHASED WITH THE BOAT CUSTOM FISHING VEST'S.
    BOW MOUNTED ANCHOR,SPARE FUEL CAN,CUSTOM BOAT COVER,I ALSO UPGRADED
    THE LCR 2000 AND REPLACED IT WITH THE HUMMINGBIRD LCR 4-ID,I ALSO
    BOUGHT THE COMBO COLOR C-LECTOR AND I GOT THE PAINTED TRAILER AS
    OPPOSED TO THE GALVANIZED ONE.
    AFTER ALL THE EXTRA'S AND DEALER SETUP CHARGES MY BOAT COST ME
    $5400.00,THE NEW ENGLAND DEALER FOR BASS PRO BOATS/CANOE'S IS
    MARINE USA,LOCATED OFF SOUTHWEST CUTOFF IN AUBURN,MA.
    BOATS CAN BE PURCHASED FROM BASS PRO SHOPS IF THEY ARE FINANCED
    THRU THEM AND THEY DELIVER THE BOAT/TRAILER TO YOU ALSO WITH
    SETUP/HANDLING COSTS ADDED.
    AFTER ALL IS SAID I LOVE MY BOAT,VERY COMFORTABLE,HANDLES WELL
    EVEN OVER WHITE CAPS CHASING DOWN SALMON,LANDLOCKED SALMON AND
    TOGUE 9((  .
    
    
     

     I HAVE USED MY TRACKER FISHING THE LAKES REGION,CONNECTICUT LAKES
    AND TRAILERED IT TO SPORTING CAMPS WITHIN BAXTER STATE PARK,MAINE
    NEVER ANY PROBLEMS,HANDLES WELL EVEN ALONE,WITH THE TILLER STEERING
    ITS ESPECIALLY EASY MANEUVERING WHILE TROLLING AS I OFTEN FISH FOR
    SALMON AND LAKERS.
    I WILL HOWEVER ADD TO THE CAUTION ABOUT MARINE USA.....WATCH EM...
    AS MY PROBLEMS WITH THEM WERE PART MY PROBLEM SINCE I ADDED EXTRA'S
    WITH THE BOAT,AND SOME WERE AVAILABLE BEFORE DELIVERY WHICH CAME
    UP MISSING THEN FOUND............OTHER THAN THAT NO PROBLEM'S
    LUCKILY THE LITTLE WIFE FISHES SO SALES PITCH WAS EASY. 

    	Is Marine, USA still in business?  Do they still sell Bass tracker
    boats?  What is their phone number?
    
    	Thank you,
    
    	Rodney Huff

    Yes, its moved up the street, its on Rt20 across from the Lamplighter
    II. Yes they do sell Bass trackers. There are other dealers that sell
    real boats though :-). Phone 508 791-7116


     Rich

    P.S. Don't spend all your money across the street.

    One of the guys at Marine USA is a member of our club (Wayside Bass).
    His name is Alan Helfgott. He is really up the entire Tracker/Nitro 
    line, and he's always taken good care of anyone I've sent up there...
    
    
    Jack

    	Thank you, Jack.  I'll probably get there sometime this week.
    
    	Rodney

    
    	So far the Legend of the lakes and I working with USA
    Marine about purchasing a couple of Bass Tracker boats.  If anyone
    else has been thinking about this, then we can all get together to
    bargain.  According to the Legend, "The bigger the buying group, the
    better our bargaining power."  So go ahead and take a look and ask
    some questions, but don't mention anything about group buying.  We'll
    get together and pull a whamy on them.  And we'll all make out swell!
    
    	Swivel