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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

247.0. "LAKE ONTARIO FISHING" by --UnknownUser-- () Fri Feb 06 1987 16:01

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247.1CASV07::MMCNULTYFri Feb 06 1987 16:0710
    HAS ANYONE HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE FISHING LAKE ONTARIO?
    I;VE BOOK A TRIP THIS SPRING WITH QUANANICHE FISHING CHARTERS
    FOR MAY 9TH AND 10TH AND LIKE ANY INFORMATION ANYONE
      COULD GIVE ME.          
                 ,
                                                                                                                               
    

                                             THANK YOU IN ADVANCE
                                                   MIKE
247.2TRY IRELAND INSTEADILOV04::MCWEENEYSun Feb 08 1987 07:403
    NO BUT IF YOU COME TO IRELAND IN THE NEXT SIX MONTHS CONTACT ME.
    
    		DONAL.
247.3October TripCASPRO::JGANNETTMon Feb 09 1987 14:462
    re-0
    I cant make it in May but I would love to go in October!!!!
247.4FISHING THE BIG "O"DUNCAN::SILKTue Feb 10 1987 12:0038
    
    I'VE BEEN TO THE BIG "O" THE LAST THREE SPRINGS.THE FIRST YEAR WE
    RENTED A CHARTER ON FRIDAY,AND ONLY CAUGHT SIX FISH (THREE BROWNS,THREE
    LAKERS).I FIGURED AFTER THE CHARTER EXCURSION WE WOULD BE OLD PRO'S
    ON WHAT TO USE AND WHERE TO FISH THEM.WE STAYED AND EXTRA DAY TO
    FISH SATURDAY OUT OF MY 12 FOOT ALUMINUM BOAT WITH A 10 HORSE.NOT
    MUCH OF A FISHING BOAT TO FLAT LINE WITH ON THE BIG "O" BUT IT STILL
    PRODUCED.WE CAUGHT THE SAME AMOUNT OUT OF MY TWELVE FOOTER AS WE
    DID ON THE CHARTER!!!( LOT CHEEPER TOO) THREE AND THREE!!
     JUST GOES TO SHOW WHAT A LITTLE DETERMINATION WILL GET YOU.I WOULDN'T
    RECOMMEND TO ANYONE THAT COULDN'T SWIM TO BE OUT THERE IN A TWELVE
    FOOTER,BUT SPRING TIME YOU FISH SO CLOSE TO SHORE YOU COULD STAND
    UP ON BOTTOM IF ANYTHING SHOULD HAPPEN!!!
     BACK TO FISHING ANYWAY.THERE'S ABOUT 10 OF US HEADING OVER THE
    LAST WEEK OF APRIL.WE'RE ALL RENTING CABINS ON SANDY POND FOR A
    WEEK.IT'S NOTHING TO BOAT 20-25 "FOOTBALL" BROWNS ON A GOOD DAY
    BEFORE NOON.I'VE FOUND THAT BETWEEN 10AM AND 2PM THE ACTION SEEMS
    TO SLOW DOWN.WE USUALLY COME IN AROUND NOON FOR A FEW HOURS,THEN
    CATCH THE LAST THREE OR FOUR HOURS OF THE AFTERNOON.SURFACE RUNNING
    LURES IN THE SPRING DO THE TRICK (REBELS,RAPALAS,BOMBERS).CHARTRUESE,
    GREEN SEEM TO BE THE COLORS LAST YEAR.WE DIDN'T SEEM TO HAVE MUCH
    LUCK FLAT LINING RIGHT STRAIT OUT THE BACK OF THE BOAT.ALL OUR FISH
    WERE CAUGHT OFF THE PLAINING BOARDS.
     IF YOU SHOULD EVER GET SICK OF CATCHING BROWNS AND LAKERS,YOU CAN
    ALWAYS HEAD OUT TO DEEPER WATER (SIX OR SEVEN MILES) TO TRY TO LOCATE
    THE THERMALCLINE FOR STEELHEAD.(SOME KIND OF THERMOMETER REQUIRED)
     NO PLACE TO BE UNLESS YOUR BOAT IS EQUIPPED FOR IT,NOTHING I'D
    TRY OUT OF MY TWELVE FOOTER!!!!!!!!!!!
          
     IF ANYONE IS AROUND THE SANDY POND AREA THAT TIME FRAME,AND HAS
    A VHF RADIO GIVE A SHOUT TO:
                                REDEYE
                                SWAMPMAN
                                REELDREAM
        WE'LL BE THERE!!!!!!!
                       
                                                  GOOD FISHING
                                                        THE REDEYE       
247.5CASV07::MMCNULTYTue Feb 10 1987 12:5310
       F10
    DUNCAN,  YOU MENTIONED IN YOUR NOTE THE FIRST TIME OUT YOU WENT
    OUT ON A CHARTER DO YOU HAPPEN TO REMEMBER WHO IT WAS WITH?
    ALSO WHERE DID YOU GO OUTTA, WAS THERE ANY SIZE TO THE FISH?
    COULD YOU RECOMMEND ANY SPOTS WE COULD TRY FROM SHORE AS OUR 
    CHARTERS ARE FOR ONLY 6 HRS, WE;D LIKE TO TRY SOME SHORE FISHING
    WHEN WHERE NOT ON THE BOAT.                                
       
                                           GOOD FISHING
                                              MIKE
247.6call George!!!CUERVO::GATHTue Feb 10 1987 14:208
    There is one guy that charters on Lake Ontrio and lives in Nashua,
    Merrimack area. Now he use to charter out of Newburyport and owned
    a boat called Pa-Pa-ray. He got fed up with the Gulf of Maine and
    moved all of his equipment to Sandy Pond.  His Name is George Demarris
    If you cant find his telephone number drop me a line and I'll
    dig up for you.
    
    Bear
247.7REPLY 247.5DUNCAN::SILKWed Feb 11 1987 06:5226
    
      YEY MIKE,
        WE CHARTERED OUT OF A TOWN CALLED PULTNEYVILLE,IT'S ABOUT HALF
     WAY BETWEEN ROCHESTER AND PULASKI.OUR CHARTER CAPTAINS NAME WAS
     RANDY VERDOW,I NO LONGER HAVE HIS PHONE NUMBER.I'M SURE INFORMATION
     CAN PROBABLY GET IT FOR YOU.THE BROWNS AVERAGE BETWEEN 6-8 POUNDS
     BUT NOT UNCOMMON TO PICK ONE UP IN THE TEENS.LAST YEAR ONE OF THE
     GUYS WE WERE WITH CAUGHT A 13 POUNDER,AND ANOTHER GUY GOT A 21
     POUNDER.THE LAKERS AVEERAGE AROUND 6-8 POUNDS ALSO,WITH AN OCCASIONAL
     ONE IN THE TEENS.
      I NO LONGER FISH OUT OF PULTNEYVILLE BECAUSE IT'S AN EXTRA 100
     MILES OR SO.LAST SPRING WE WENT OVER TO PULASKI TO FISH THE SALMON
     RIVER FOR STEELHEAD.WE DIDN'T CATCH STEELIES SO I TRIED TO TALK
     THE BOYS INTO FISHING OFF THE CEMENT DOCK AT SELKIRK SHORES STATE
     PARK.NOTHING DOING THOUGH,NOT TRUE STEELIE FISHERMAN.ABOUT A WEEK
     LATER AT WORK WE HEARD THAT THEY HAMMERED THE BROWNS RIGHT OFF
     THE DOCK THAT SAME WEEKEND.I DON'T KNOW WHERE YOUR CHARTER IS OUT
     IS SELKIRK STATE PARK COULD BE A LONG WAY TO DRIVE.IT'S ABOUT 2
     MILES WEST OF THE MOUTH OF THE SALMON RIVER.IF YOU DON'T HAVE YOUR
     CHARTER YET YOU COULD GET HOLD OF LINDA GREENNOUGH AT GREEN POINT
     MARINA(SANDY POND).SHE COULD FIX YOU UP WITH A CHARTER SERVICE
     (318-387-3513).IT'S ABOUT 15 MILE FROM SELKIRK STATE PARK.
             
                                           HOPE THIS HAS BEEN A HELP
                                                      GOOD FISHING
                                                         KEVIN SILK
247.8CASPRO::MMCNULTYWed Feb 11 1987 07:5214
    KEVIN,
     
           OUR CHARTER IS OUT OF LITTLE SALMON RIVER. SOUNDS LIKE YOU
    GUYS HAD A GOOD TIME. WHAT TYPE OF LURES DID YOU USE FROM THE SHORE
    BECAUSE WE PLAN ON FISHING FROM THE SHORE WHEN NOT ON THE BOAT.
    OUR CHARTER IS BOOKED FROM MAY 9TH AND 10TH. DO YOU KNOW OF ANY
    "HOT" SPOT IN THE VICINITY OF LITTLE SALMON RIVER IT'S IN NEW
    MEXICO NEW YORK? I APOLOGIZE FOR GETTING YOUR NAME WRONG IN MY
    LAST REPLY. THANK'S FOR ALL THE INFO YOU'VE BEEN A BIG HELP.
    
    
                                                THANK'S AGAIN
                                                    MIKE
    
247.9REPLY 247.8DUNCAN::SILKWed Feb 11 1987 08:2413
    
    
   MIKE,
      SELKIRK STATE PARK IS RIGHT IN MEXICO BAY.IF YOUR CHARTERING OUT
    THE SALMON RIVER,THE STATE PARK WILL BE TO  YOUR RIGHT ABOUT A MILE
    DOWN.YOU WILL SEE THE CEMENT DOCK WHEN YOU TROLL BY.I'VE NEVER FISHED
    FROM SHORE,ALL I HAVE HEARD IS TALK ABOUT PEOPLE CATCHING BROWNS
    OFF THE PIER AT THE STATE PARK.AS FAR AS LURES GO FROM SHORE I WOULD
    IMAGINE THAT THE HEAVIER THE BETTER (SPOONS),SO YOU CAN CAST THEM OUT
    FARTHER.
           
                                                                   
                                                            KEVIN,
247.10USRCV1::NADROWSKICTue Feb 17 1987 11:3558
A little background.............. 

Fishing license New York

resident New York state

season  $9.50
3-day   $3.50

out of state

season  $20.50
3-day   $ 6.50
7-day   $12.50

Note if you are planning to fish lake ERIE you also need a $3.00 lake ERIE
stamp
Can be bought at any K-mart of sporting/tackle shop .

Lake Ontario Health advisory

Eat none - lake trout , chinook salmon , coho salmon over 21"
           rainbow trout over 25"
           brown trout over 18"

Eat only one meal a month any of the above below that measurement

 The lake has some of the best fishing in the Northeast from March - May
and October-? most anything(trout) can be caught from shore . Mostly in the 
A.M. . I've caught may 3-5 lbs. Lakers and browns from shore and the 
occasional salmon or rainbow . Best is October-November for steel heads and
salmon . From shore try wading in ( what a way to wake up !) and casting 
3/4 oz celo's silver or combo's of green blue and red with silver work fine 
 

 On charters be prepared to pay big time for the charter service most run 
about $200-400 a day ! 
I've never dealt with any of the below but you may want to give them a call
most sail out of the Rochester N.Y. area when I get home I'll see if I 
still have my East shore directory.

Tony Mike Arlaukas 716-865-6888 

Brian's Reel Strike Charters 716-621-5489

Good Time Charters 716-865-2766

Fish Tale          716-232-2879 or 377-0971

All American       716-266-4910

Chilson            716-872-0009

Sea Breeze         716-323-1376

Oravec John        716-659-2510

247.11EATING FISHCASPRO::RWEATHERBEETue Feb 17 1987 14:245
    MR NADROWSKIC,


                  WHY CAN'T WE EAT THE FISH WE CATCH, NO MATTER 
                  WHAT THE SIZE IS?
247.12eat'emand glowUSRCV1::NADROWSKICTue Feb 17 1987 14:4725
    The recommendations are from the New York Department of Health (DOH)
     The DOH has a great bunch of people using D.E.C. systems to figure
    this kind of stuff out...
    
    The main reason is lake ontario is the reciver of wather from the
    Niagara river which has a large population of chemical compinies
    .Which in the 40's thu 70's dumped tons of PCB's mirex and other
    good stuff into the river and leach fields which drained into the
    lake . ( ever hear of love canal ? ) . PCB's are heavey and settle
    to the bottom as most trout when in the lake are bottom feaders
    they eat enough of the stuff to glow when they get bigger .
     The PCB's settle into the fatty flesh and donot disipate much .
    
    The new recommendations for waters in New York have doubled in the
    past year alone . And the problem isn't getting better as the PCB's
    even though they disipate in sunlight don't get much (sun) at the
    bottom . 
    
    
    ~~~~~ but the fishing is good ~~~~~~
    
    -carl-  Who uses catch and release alot on this lake 
             
    
247.13Camp sites around PulaskiCAD::BROPHYTue Feb 17 1987 16:0212
    Since we're on the subject of Lake Ontario, does anyone out there
    know of any camp grounds in the area of Pulaski, that would be
    open on the weekend of March 14th & 15th ? A small group of us are
    trying to put together a LOW BUDGET trip for steel head. We will
    be using tents so no electric facilities will be needed. I've called
    all over and had no luck any help you folks can offer would be
    appriciated. 
               
    
    Ready and willing to freeze my #$$ off for a nice steelie.
    Mike
    
247.14How about the derbies??37967::NOYESTue Feb 17 1987 16:0312
    How About The Derbies?????????????????????????
    
    All this talk about fishin the big "O" and nobody has mentioned
    the derbies.... I'll be out there May 2nd wich happens to be the
    opening day of the summer derby. The summer derby runs from May2nd
    till July 26 if memory serves me correctly. I do have more info
    on the summer and fall derbies if anyone is interested. After all,
    for a mere $12 entry they have some pretty nice prizes. If anyone
    would like more info on the derbies drop me a line at, angora::noyes
    I'd be glad to help out.
    
    al noyes
247.15$$ Derby time $$USRCV1::NADROWSKICTue Feb 17 1987 17:088
    Just picked up a copy of the E.S.L.O. ( empire state lake ontario)
    derby paper $157,000 prizes for spring April 23-> 26
    for salmon and trout 
    
    Details forth comming if anyone interested just need time to type
    the stuff out
    
    -carl-
247.16Upland FishingSPMFG1::CUZZONESWed Feb 18 1987 07:3910
    re:.13
    
    I picked up a magazine last week that had an article on fishing
    Lake Ontario and listed guide services and campgrounds and such.
    The magazine is an annual, the title is Upland Fishing I think.
    It deals exclusively with NY and New England, focussing on local
    fish, techniques and waters.  I think most of y'all would find it
    useful.
    
    Steve
247.17E.S.L.O. rules and stuffUSRCV1::NADROWSKICWed Feb 18 1987 14:2079
ELSO DERBY April 23-26 

$154,000 Prizes 

$32,000 Grand prize package for largest salmon
$16,000 Grand prize package for largest Brown Trout

25 tagged fish worth $500-1000 each

    4 divisions
    salmon
    rainbow
    lakers
    browns
Entry fee

spring 4/23-26  $13.00
tagged fish     $02.00
summer 5/2-7/26 $12.00
fall   8/22-97  $12.00

if anyone wants a entry blank or more info drop me a line 

USRCV1::NADROWSKIC

DTN 252-7123

Excerpt from rules

1) must follow N.Y. state rules  ( hook rod reel no grenades)

2) must register at least 1 day in advance

3) must have N.Y. license

4) agree to follow the rules

5) submit all disputes to the ref . ( no instant replay though )

6) all person's on boat must be registered 

7) must reel it into a net 

8) 2 person min. per boat both registered if caught from shore must
   bring witness to  verify 

9) must submit to polygraph if asked

10) only allowed 1 major prize

11) can't enter for 5 years after winning trout/steel head category

12) must enter whole fish

13) all fish entered are property of derby as per there judgment

14) allow fish to be examined internally

15) same as 9

16) judges decision final

17) must register fish on day caught

18) no relatives of derby people eligible

19) won't hold derby people/sponsors liable for death or dismemberment

20) all TROUT and SALMON must be minimum 8 LBS Lakers minimum 30 inches

   Last years winners  

salmon 1st prize 30 lbs-11 oz     
lakes            13 lbs-02 oz
browns           17 lbs-01 oz
rainbow          14 lbs-06 oz


247.18More Derby ChatterPLDVAX::NOYESFri Feb 20 1987 10:5232
    While we seem to be on the subject of the ESLO Derbies here, I thought
    that I would you all a short story. During the time of the 86 summer
    brown trout derby a party of 4 from the Leominster/Gardner area
    treked fourth to the big "O". They really didn't think they had
    a chance in the derby so they opted not to enter. Wouldn't you know
    it, one of those guys caught a new NY State record brown, 29lbs
    15ozs. Granted he received all the press for a new record including
    a picture in the Oct.86 issue of Outdoor Life as well as the ESLO
    derby gazette. But he could have had himself a beautifull new fishing
    rig!
    
    You just never know what your chances are... If any of you go in
    87, I strongly suggest you give the derby some serious thought!!!
    
    I also have entry blanks and the rules for anyone interested. The
    charter I have booked my trips for this year is Hi-Line Charters
    out of Sodus Bay, and the campground I use is Idlewood-on-the-lake.
    The campground is about 1.5mi from the dock, Hahers bait shop and
    official weigh station is right there and they also have a boat
    ramp for those of you who might want to bring your own. I have all
    the pricing info and phone numbers for those of you that are
    interested. 
    
    One last thing and then I'll shut up. A good source for charter
    info will be the fishing expo in Springfield, at the BIG "E"
    fairgrounds. This show is sometime in March. Maybe one of you fellow
    "BIG O" fishermen could help me out with the exact dates for this
    one???????
    
    thanks
    al noyes                need info drop me a line @ ANGORA::NOYES
    
247.19Big E 4th annual sportman's showARMORY::CUZZONESMeet me at the dock at sunriseMon Feb 23 1987 10:1335
    Show dates as follows:
    
    wed Mar 4  2-10                thu Mar 5  2-10
    fri Mar 6  2-10                sat Mar 7  9:30-9
    sun Mar 8  10-6:30
    
    "The largest and most complete sportsman's show ever held in the
    East."  quote from $1.00 off discount coupon locally available.
    
    . 409 exhibitor booths will display over 100 products and services.
    
    . FREE seminars and demonstrations (it slices it dices it cuts prices)
    
    . Door prizes worth over $10,000.
    
    Admission I believe will be $4.50 or $5.00.
    
    Location is the Better Living Center at the Big E in W Springfield,
    Ma. Crude Map Follows:
    
                                     |R
                                     |o
                                     |u
                                     |t
            Memorial Drive           |e
    ---------------------------------O
       X= Big E                      |5
                                     |
    
    The most direct way there is to get off the Mass Pike at exit 4
    and head south on route 5 for 3 to 4 miles.  Exit at Memorial Drive
    and head west.  You can't miss it.
    
    Steve
    |
247.20FISHIN' BOUNDOLDMAN::CURAVOOThu Feb 26 1987 17:475
    HOWDY KEVIN,HEADING OUT TO PALASKI THE SECOND WEEK OF APRIL. WE'LL
    GOING TO BE STAYING OVER AT KIM LEE'S PLACE I'LL GET BACK WITH YOU
    AND LET YOU NOW WHAT'S HAPPENING OUT THERE. BY THE WAY SAY HI TO
    THE SWAMPMAN AND THE REST OF THE BOYS.MAYBE WE'LL CATCH YOU ON THE
    CHAMPLAIN THIS SUMMER. JUST GIVE A SHOUT TO THE CRUZ'N II
247.21RE: .20DUNCAN::SILKFri Feb 27 1987 06:1112
     
    YEH GARY,
        YOU GOING TO BE FISHING FOR STEELIES IN THE RIVER,OR YOU HAULING
    YOUR BOAT OVER.EITHER WAY GET BACK TO ME OR THE SWAMPMAN TO LET
    US KNOW HOW THEY'RE DOING ON THE LAKE.NOT THAT IT WOULD MAKE ANY
    DIFFERENCE,WE'RE ALL SO PUMPED UP ALREADY I DON'T THINK ANYTHING
    COULD POSTPONE THE TRIP NOW.(EXCEPT MAYBE THE BIG "O" TEN FOOT SWELLS)
                                                 
                                                        SPRINGS COMING
                                                          
                                                         THE REDEYE
                                                 
247.22GRAPH HUNTINGOLDMAN::CURAVOOFri Feb 27 1987 16:028
       REDEYE,
    I'M GOING TO HAUL THE BOAT OUT AND GIVE THE LAKE A TRY WEATHER
    PERMITING. IF NOT IN THE RIVER WE GO. I HEAR OVER BY OSWEGO,THEY
    HAVE A LARGE BREAKWATER SO IF THE LAKE IS ROUGH YOU CAN STILL GET
    SOME GOOD FISHING IN THERE.
     BY THE WAY, CAN YOU SEE IF YOU CAN FIND A GOOD PRICE ON A LOWERANCE
    X5 LIQUID DISPLAY. THE BEST I FOUND SO FAR WAS $425 WITHOUT THE
    TRANSDUCER.  
247.23Egg Sacks neededCAD::BROPHYFri Mar 13 1987 13:259
    Hi, My Buddy and I are heading up to Pulaski Tomorrow for the day
    (ya we're nuts) as a recon trip for our upcomming Stealhead trip
    the 28th. Any ways since this is going to be a blast-up-fish-blast
    home trip I could use some help finding a bait shop that has egg
    sacks on hand. I realize that this is sshort notice but we just
    decided to give it a whrl today. Thanks for the help
    
    			Mike
    
247.24egg sacksCASPRO::MMCNULTYFri Mar 13 1987 13:4712
    mike,
    
         you might be able to get some at;
    
    
                  Barnicle Bills
                  RTE 119
                  Littleton, Mass
    
    
    i don't know where your from , but i hope this helps you out.
    Be sure you let us know how you do......
247.25EGG SACKSNORDIC::ALEXANDERFri Mar 13 1987 14:077
    Tony's Bait Shop right in Pulaski have all sort of egg sacks.  They
    are open from early morning to late evening.  Good place to pick
    up on up to date info.
    
                                             Good Luck
    
                                              SWAMP MAN
247.26USRCV1::NADROWSKICMon Mar 30 1987 15:1222

Lake Ontario Update

Just been out on the lake for the first time this year , Ice is all gone

the trout are running up the creeks saw many a good catch of all types 

this weekend .Egg sacks seem to be going over big in the streams
    
     Personally wading in from shore casting 1/4-3/4 oz spoons

and triple jointed Reppla's got 2 nice lakes 24 and 28 inches (released)

 One on a spoon and one on a replla . Also one small rainbow 15 inches on a

number 1 spinner .

 Now is the time if you want to do some good shore fishing.....

-Carl-

247.27First trip to OntarioVICKI::LIBITZTue Apr 21 1987 13:379
    Went to Ontario April 15-17 for the first time, I will be going
    back. Fished out of the New Haven (little sodus bay) area and
    we got 9 fish. 7 browns, 1 chinook and 1 coho. The browns were
    all in the 4-8 lb. area and the largest salmon was 12 1/2 lbs.
    This trip was mainly a learning experience but I'm hooked on 
    fishing Lake Ontario. Already started planning next years trip.
    
    						Paul
    
247.28 Any UpdateSHRFAC::BICKESThu Sep 21 1989 06:464
                         A update
          Does anybody have a up date on the salmon fishing up in Pulski
           river in New York ? I am thinking on making a trip in
            October the second week-and. Thanks  WIZzard