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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

213.0. "LET'S TALK RAMPS..." by KANE::MERCURIO () Mon Nov 03 1986 12:33

    I noticed I didn't get any response to note # 183, having to do
    with ramps in N.H., or more accuratly, lack of ramps. I can't believe
    there isn't any interest in this topic out there. Just recently
    we lost access to Canobie Lake and Bow Lake. This is happening more
    and more as the lakes in Southern New Hampshire become over populated.
    The people who live on these lakes don't own the water! What can
    be DONE!!!
    
    
    					Jim
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213.1Organize to be heardNYJOPS::HORWITZMon Nov 03 1986 13:1229
    ORGANIZE !!!!
    It seems that fishing access is becoming a major problem in several
    areas. In New Jersey, there is a general movement to organize SPORT-
    FISHERS. Presently, we have 2 "blanket organizations": Jersey Coast
    Anglers' Assoc." (saltwater oriented) and N.J. Sportfishing Assoc.
    (Fresh water). These groups which count entire clubs as well as
    individuals in their memberships, work hard to preserve present
    access and develop new sites. Prior to the formation of these
    organizations, we were losing access at an alarming rate, due mainly
    to the fact that our "opposition" was organized and we were NOT!
    
    If you belong to Fishing/Hunting club, this is the best place to
    get outdoorsmen organized initially. From this base you can start
    letter writing campaigns, etc. 
    Ultimately, POLITICIANS control access (in one way or another).
    And these types have to be overwhelmed by NUMBERS (voters!)
    
    There may already be organizations in existance in your area. Most
    states have a "Federation of Sportsmans Clubs" etc. If you belong
    to a chapter of B.A.S.S.,  Trout Unlimited, etc. they can help.
    A lone voice complaining to other anglers is not effective. Many
    anglers' voices shouting in unison can be well heard!
    
    ORGANIZE!
    Tight lines,
    Beach Bagel 
    		Member: NJ Beach Buggy Assoc., S.U.R.F. International,
    		United Mobile Sportfisherman, Assoc. of Surf Angling
    		Clubs.
213.2WHAT WILL IT BE LIKE 10 YEARS FROM NOW???CANDY::MERCURIOMon Nov 10 1986 12:3214
    Beach Bagel,
    Thanks for the response, you seem to have alot of experience in
    these matters. I want to congradulate you guys on a job well done.
    Getting people organized to do anything is NO BARGAIN. As you can
    see by the number of replys to this subject matter, it's unconfortable
    or unpopular to buck the establishment. Well I've been fishing Southern
    N.H. for 10+ years and can't believe the trend toward loss of access.
    Yet very little is being done to change this trend. I guess because
    it's been happening over a long period of time that it doesn't get
    noticed.  A good exercise would be to take a map of the area and
    count how many lakes or ponds there are and then count how many
    have public access. Oh, by the way, many are chuck full of bass
    and other species. any comments???
                 
213.3YOU decideNYALYF::HORWITZMon Nov 10 1986 13:4233
    You're right, getting folks organized IS no bargain! But some good
    "PR" can start the ball rolling. Sometimes people only think in
    the first person when denied access, etc. If it can be publicized
    that n hundreds or thousands of anglers have lost access, it's amazing
    how many people "come out of the woodwork"! 
    One thing to note: the groups I am active in don't just bitch and
    politic - we try to set an example by protecting, maintaining,
    improving our access areas for the benefit of the general public.
    For example, this weekend the NJ Beach Buggy Assoc. will be erecting
    snow fences (to build dunes) at a popular N.J. STATE PARK. We also
    periodically run beach clean-ups, the local chapter of TU often
    conducts stream clean-ups, B.A.S.S. runs tournaments (hmmm.....?)
    [please excuse the editorial comment]
    It is not necessary to join a 'major' organization. The local club
    I belong to participates in activities like clean-ups, etc, sponsored
    by ENVIRONMENTAL groups. When we sign up to help we always stress
    that we are ANGLERS, and this helps get some support from those
    whose stereotype fisherman is a person whose main enjoyment is swilling
    beer and leaving a pile of empties and trash behind.
    So, you can see that it is a two pronged approach.
    If you belong to an outdoors type club, try to get that group active.
    If you don't belong to a club, join one (or start one... SURF Intn'l
    might be interested in a chapter or affiliate being formed).
    
    Remember, many organizations of long standing were formed to resolve
    just one immediate crisis. (this is why the NJBBA was formed 30+
    years ago)
    To answer your opening question: What do you want it to be like
    10 years from now?
    
    Tight lines
    Beach Bagel
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