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Conference wahoo::fishing

Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

194.0. "Tuna Bucks" by FESTER::LEBLANC () Tue Sep 30 1986 12:23



     Well, John Vrobel and I went out after the elusive TUNA the other
day,  and did we have a good time.  We had an excellent day, my father
caught a blue I missed one and then we headed out to Charlie country.

     I have been going out with the Captain all year and  had  yet  to
see  a  tuna.   This was my father's second trip and he had not seen a
tuna in 20 years.

     My father was up in the crows nest and the Captain and I were  on
the  deck  when dad spotted a large fish near the surface.  We changed
course to go investigate only to find out it  was  just  a  couple  of
pilot  whales.  We then started back out when about 5 minutes later we
spotted what we thought was 2 tuna on the surface.  My dad was driving
from  up  in  the  tower  and  John  was out on the pulpit reading the
harpoon.  I was controlling the boat speed and tracking the tuna  from
the  deck.   We  made  our  first pass, but we were going too fast and
Charlie took a dive.

     This had to rank right up there with the most discouraging of all
things that have ever happened to me.  We waited around to see if he'd
come back and to my amazement he surfaced 50' in front of us about  20
minutes later.  This time we went after him at about half the speed of
the first time and John sank the harpoon about 9 inches into Charlie's
back and broke his spine.

     Even with a broken spine it took a hour for Charlie to die and 45
minutes for us to pull him into the boat.  That first look at the fish
when it is still 5' under the water is amazing.

     Well this note is getting long, so to end it let me give you some
of the stats on the fish:

     1.  Weight undressed - 992 Lbs

     2.  Weight dressed - 715 Lbs

     3.  Overall length - 9'10"

     4.  Girth - 6'9.5"

     5.  Tail - 38.5" tip - tip

     6.  Selling price - $10.50 / pound

     7.  Days take - $7507.50


     Well time to go back out and get another couple TUNA.

     Brian LeBlanc
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194.1Some like it HotSYSENG::NELSONTue Sep 30 1986 12:537
    I find the notes on tuna fishing very interesting, but I have a
    question on this.   Is this what is meant by "sticking"?  Also
    it seems to me that this is really tuna hunting and not tuna fishing.
    Is this an easier method of converting than "hand-lining" or good
    ole rod and reel?
    
    Steve_who's_never_seen_the_blue_water_from_a_boat...yet
194.2AIMHI::TOMASJoeTue Sep 30 1986 14:125
    geez...with tuna @ $10+/pound, you can realy make a killing providing
    you get one.  Now I can understand the logic behind hiring a plane
    to spot from the air!
    
    joe
194.3re: 1 tuna huntingFESTER::VROBELTue Sep 30 1986 14:1737
	RE: 1

	You may call it tuna hunting if you like. I sometimes
	feel that it is like hunting, since I also hunt.

	There are two license categories: Harpoon Class and
	General Class. The General class license includes
	Rod/reel, handlining, and harpooning. The Harpoon class
	is harpoon only. "Hand held harpoon" only in either class.

	The difference in the licenses is in the limit and quota.
	In the Harpoon class there is not a daily limit and
	you can take as many fish as you can handle. But once the
	quota is full, the boat can no longer fish. In the General
	class, the limit starts at one a day and may be raised if the
	catch rate doesn't meet the quota expectations. Currently the
	general class limit is at 2 fish per day per boat. The Harpoon
	class quota has been taken. In either case, the boat is
	licensed to fish and the license is in the name of the boat.

	Btw, some of the old timers call it "ironing". Because the
	rod on the harpoon is made of iron so it will bend when
	the fish rolls, thus setting up the dart and not tearing
	the fish and possibly pulling the dart.

	It is also referred to as "sticking". Boats with towers and
	pulpits are generally referred to as "stick boats".

	In either class you must also have a commercial license
	as well as the Federal license.

	Btw, Brian, you forgot to mention that the tuna had
	two bluefish in its stomach. So you did end up catching
	a bluefish afterall.

	= JV
194.4TuneringPSYCHE::DECAROLISWed Oct 01 1986 13:5322
    I have a question.  Why harpooning instead of rod & reel??
    Is this so you wouldn't have to deal with chumming?
    
    I would think percentage wise your chances would be greater
    to catch the fish on a rod, or hand-line as the "Moonies" do.
    
    Regarding quotas, I've heard that you can still fight the
    fish but you have to release him if the quota has been filled.
    You are not supposed to bring the fish out of the water.
    
    I know of a boat (won't mention the name) that had filed his
    quota for the week.  He had a hook-up, fought the fish and then
    brought the tuna onto his boat.  I think/know the plan was to
    hand over the fish to his buddy on another boat who had not
    filled his quota, they in turn would split the profit.
    
    Well, no sooner had he brought the fish onboard when the Coast
    Guard appeared. They had watched him thru binoculars and pounced
    on him with a $500 fine.  
                    
    jd/
    
194.5re: 4FESTER::VROBELWed Oct 01 1986 15:0251
	Re: 4 to Jeanne

	I've handlined three tuna in the past. The proverbial
	sit there and cutup two + boxes of chum a day waiting
	for a hookup. I still handline on occaision. I've also
	fished for tuna by rod and reel. I've never got one personally
	this way but have friends that have. My opinion is that
	much more of a crew is needed on a rod and reel boat
	("crank boat") to be successful consistently. I've
	handlined for tuna alone (thankfully I never hooked up).
	Its tooooooooo much work for one person and dangerous.

	Three years ago I handlined a fish the first time down
	to Stellwagen. I then sat there for a month and a half
	and never had a hookup. At $ 15 a box for bait and
	probably 30 + days of fishing, thats $ 900 + at
	two boxes a day just for the chum alone. Gets frustrating...
	I have a roll of paper with 290 fish on it in 2 1/2 hours
	"marks". Unicorns.......

	I moved to another spot where I had heard there were fish.
	Two days in a row "stickboats" were getting fish
	all around me and I was cuttin' bait and didn't have
	a hookup. Did mark them though. More frustration...

	Took a week off and put a pulpit on my boat. First
	time out bingooooo... stuck one. I became a stick boat.
	The next year added a 25' tower. This year added 16'
	pulpit (8' longer). Lots of dart baskits. Still have my
	handline gear on board but use it mostly for trolling.

	The boat you were talking about is lucky. The federal
	laws states not less than $ 10,000 and not more
	than $20,000 per fish for such an offense. I hear
	that the Feds (National Marine Fisheries) have not
	been inforcing it though. In my opinion they
	should. You can fish and release after your limit.
	You can even fish after the quota and release.
	Last year I got a tagging kit from NOAA to
	harpoon tag after the season closed. Anyone fishing
	after their limit is on deck is probably up to
	no good.

	I guess I just find more romance in harpooning. Its
	mostly done on calm seas. I don't like being out there
	when you can't standup. You can also cover more
	ground (ocean) and for the most part avoid other boats.
	Give me a tower and a "cold one" anyday.

	= John
194.6Well that makes sensePSYCHE::DECAROLISWed Oct 01 1986 16:0322
    Not to menton, chum smells awful, especially around 4 o'clock.
    
    Thats interesting.  I think I'm going to show this to
    my father.  He's got a tower, and catwalk on his boat,
    but he still fights' em in the the chair.  To tell you
    the truth, I think he's a lousy shot.  He's got the stamina
    to stay in the chair for 8 hours, but I don't think he
    could stick a fish that was more than 15 feet away.  heh heh
    I know this because I play tennis with him.
    
    He's lost more tuna just by trying to harpoon & gaff it, 
    and knocking it off the hook while doing so.
        
    These people that got caught by the FEDS had an alibi, and
    the fish cooperated, unfortunately.  They said the fish was
    "dead" when they surfaced it, so they brought it on board.
                                                                  
    Congratulations!  By the way, whats the name of your boat?
    
    Jeanne
    
                 
194.7Spendy fish...PD750::CORBETTKEKENNY CHINOOKWed Oct 01 1986 19:307
    Just a short question.
    
    Why is the tuna so expensive.  The albacore here (Pacific Ocean)
    are running .99/lb.
    
    Must be a different type of tuna.  Anyway, it sounds fun anyway
    you would go for 'em.
194.8Sushi (sp?)PSYCHE::DECAROLISThu Oct 02 1986 13:3512
    Albacore tuna is of the smaller variety.  This is used for
    canned tuna, such as "Bumble Bee, Starkist", etc.
    
    Bluefin tuna weighs up to 1200 lbs $$$$!, and is sold to
    Japanese restaurants to be used for sushi (raw fish).  
    Also, a large percentage of bluefin tuna is shipped directly 
    to Japan.  
    
    jd/