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    	Your best bet would be to go out on the Eastman Part Boats
    	in Seabrook N.H. It's about 1 hour and 15 minutes ride. Another
    	choice would be Smith and Gilmur, just across the river
    	in Hampton, N.H. If you fish with Eastman's, I'd recommend
    	going out on Lester Eastman's boat (used to be called the
    	Lady Gala Diane). If you fish with Smith and Gilmore, I'd
    	recommend Rocky's boat (the Northern Star).
    
    	Anyway, these guys are real fisherman and make a good attempt
    	to help you catch fish. Most head boats just run you around
    	and take your money and really don't care whether you catch
    	fish or not.
    
    	Both boats are fast and both guys fish Jefferies ledge. Your
    	likely to see whales also. Most of the whales are feeding
    	on northern Jefferies this year.

    	Call either for reservations and/or departure times.
        
    	= JV

    Also, you might want to check the paper for the Marine Forecast.
    If it says 1 to 3 feet, thats' fairly calm.  2 to 4 feet though,
    and its going to be somewhat rough.
    
    Cape Ann runs party boats, 1/2 day charters, bluefishing, night
    fishing, whale watching.  You might want to give them a call.
    This is out of Gloucester, MA., and its called Cape Ann Marina.
    
    Good Luck with the fishing.
    

    Like it was stated in reply #.1, good luck in locating a fishing
    service who does not specialize in just joyriding around the
    ocean and not locating any fish.  I've had that experience, and
    it's a total drag.
    
    Also, be careful what you girlfriend eats before you go out, or
    otherwise she'll be spending her glorious trip "feeding" the
    fish, if you know what I mean.  I guarantee, she'll never go
    out again.  Do not, I repeat "DO NOT" eat eggs "over-easy"
    style.  Make sure you bring plenty of food, though, cause
    appetites start to soar on the open seas.
    
    					Ex Lunch-Blower!
    
    					Kim Mikrut
    

       I went out with Smith & Gilmore in April and it was prettyy good
    He's in Hampton.
       40 of us from Salem went out with Eastman in June and it was
    lousy. He said we were Fishing Jaffries Ledge, but he didn't know
    where he was because you could still see land and there;s no way
    you can see land from Jaffries. I've been there dozens of times.
       The boats at Cape Ann Marina are the Yankee Fleet. They are by
    far the best party boats in New England.

    
    I would recommend going to Gloster's Yakee Fleet or to Rockport
    with the Miss Rockport.  She (miss R) leaves from the Rockport landing.
    Bassin Bob
    

    re: .1
    
    The Northern Star is one of Al Gauron's fleet of four party boats
    at the state pier in Hampton Beach. S & G fishing is right next
    door.
    
    Steve

    
    re: 4
    
    	Jefferys Ledge is an under water extention of Cape Ann.
    	It extends northward to directly in front of York beach
    	and Cape Neddick in Maine. In front of Cape Ann, the
    	ledge starts Approx. 3 miles from land. The boats
    	refer to this area as the southern or South Jefferys.
    	The northern portion is generally referred to as North
    	Jefferies. The party boats fish the whole thing. Where
    	they fish depends on where the bait is and the bottom
    	fish that follow the bait. On a clear day you can see
    	Cape Ann from any where on the southern portion to approx
    	20 NM north. If you're on the northern edge you can see
    	Mt. Agamenticus up in Maine (altitude 673 feet).
                                                          
    	The fishing in general this year has been pretty lousy.
    	First the dogs moved in early and then the bait moved way
    	up to the northern part of the ledge. Spring/early
    	summer and late summer/fall is generally the best for
    	the serious fisherman.
    
    	You can always go on an overnighter to Platts, Fippennies,
        or Cashes at anytime and get a lot of fish.
    
    	I double checked this past weekend Lester Eastman now
    	calls his boat the Lady Lesley Diane.

    	I'll stand pat and recommend only Lester Eastman in Seabrook
    	or Rocky on the Northern Star (Al Gauron's) in Hampton. Both
    	Captains strive to keep track of where the fish are and
    	fish accordingly.
    
        = JV
    
    

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MSBCS::HURLEY                                         9 lines  10-OCT-1990 17:56
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    Moderator, feel free to move this to wherever it belongs. I looked 
    around but could not find the info..
    
    	I never made it out deep sea fishing this year and was wondering if
    the trips are still going out and where my best bet would be to go? I 
    love Cod and would love to put a few in my freezer. Any info would
    help.
    
    thanks
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CGVAX2::BARTLETT                                     19 lines  10-OCT-1990 18:20
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    There are many places along the New England coastline that offer 
    Deep-Sea fishing trips.  It does seem that the price of these trips go
    up every year.  I went out of Perkins Cove(Ogunquid Beach, Me) this 
    year with my daughter.  First time for her but she did well.  Between
    the two of us we got eight Cod.  Her largest was 25 lbs and mine was 
    29 lbs.  We fished on a foggy day in about 190 ft of water.  Biggest 
    Cod on the trip was 65 lbs caught by the only other girl on the boat.
    For a half day on the boat with rod and tackle and cleaning the fish
    it was $25, per person.  This was in July.  I'm sure that most anywhere
    you go it will be about that price.  Of course, it will be about 
    double that for an all day trip.  There are boats in Rye Harbor and
    Hampton, NH.  Also Seabrook, Salsbury, Glouster, and Newburyport Ma.
    
    Its now coming to the end of the season.  They will go out as long as
    the weather is warm.
    
    
    Tom in New Hampshire
    
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WAV13::GREENBERG                                     11 lines  11-OCT-1990 08:50
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    You might want to contact:
    
    		Yankee Fleet, Gloucester	508-283-0313
    		Hilton's, Newburyport		508-462-8381
    
    I am pretty sure they both have trips until at least late November.
    Yankee Fleet has been having  a great year.
    
    Good luck.
    
    
    

       Or you might try :
    Dir/Title=Deep
                                      Denny

    or even better yet, looking at the keyword directory (555.1)

FYI...

I went out on the Bunny Clark out of Ogunquit, ME last Thursday.  Overall, 
the fishing was terrible that day.  I caught 10-12 cod, but only 3 were 
keepers (barely).  Pool fish was only 8#s.  The wind was really blowing and 
we were bouncing all over the place.  I've never been sea-sick before, but I 
was starting to feel a little queasy before the day was over.  Several guys 
were in touch shape and spent most of the day hanging over the side.

Only a couple of days before I went out, the Bunny Clark went out on a 
"marathon" trip, 5 AM to 5PM, with a max of 16 people.  They went out about 
45 miles and brought back about 2000 lbs of fish!  Not bad.  They'll be 
doing several more of these before the end of the season.

Although this trip was not so hot, I would highly recommend the boat and 
skipper.  His name is Tim somethin_or_other.  This is the same boat I went 
on a year ago and caught the three largest fish to win the pool.  Biggest 
was a hake at 37.5 lbs with large cod at 18 lbs.

The Bunny Clark is planning to run thru Nov. 15th, or so.  Telephone number 
is (207) 646-5575.

-HSJ-

    Do you know what the bunny clark charges for the marathon day trip that
    you talked about?? Sounds like I might go on this one since it will be
    my first and last one for this year.. Also can you give me directions
    on how to get there??

As i recall, the marathon trip was either $70 or $75, including rod & bait.

Directions....hmmm...Rt 95 north, take the exit before the toll both marked 
Rt 1, Ogunquit.  When you get into town, there's a small 7-11 type store on 
the left (it's open early).  Right after the store, hang a right and follow 
the signs to the water.  Or ask for directions at the store.  Reservations 
required for the trip.

Let us know how you make out.

Joe

    
    	I was wondering if there were any charter boats to catch flounder?
    	Are there places at the Cape where you can rent a boat for a day?
	I know in Quincy Bay there were places, but I'm not sure about 
    	the pollution.  Any help on where to catch them would be helpful.
    
    	Thanks
    
    	Ken
    
    

    I understand that they are catching flounder on the surf at Plum
    Island.  Surfland could tell you where.
    
    Gordon
    

    Well I never made it out deep sea this year. Anybody go the last couple
    of weeks and if so how was it??

    My last day out on the SWEET DREAM II was November 1st. Kept 40 cod
    and the macks were as thick as could be. The way the wind has been
    blowing not to many boats have been fishing. Yankee fleet finishes
    up this week end.
    
    BTW - A couple of boat fish through the winter down off pt judith.
    The Gail Francis and the Super Squirel and may be the Seven B's.
    Any of you folks got what it takes to fish the ocean in February?
    
    Capt. Codfish

    40 COD?? NOw I wish I went out last week. Where is the sweet dream
    II out of and how is the crew?
    
    	What was you using for bait and how big were they?
    
    Just curious. Never went fishing after november. I am sure it gets
    a tad nippy out there ah?

>Where is the sweet dream II out of and how is the crew?

 It's out of Danversport and the crew is simply the finest DEC has to offer.
 :-) Right, Tim? :-) :-)

 The Doctah

I must say, there is an awesome crew for the "Sweet Dream II".  Also, the Capt.
is pretty awesome, but not as awesome as the crew.

Like the Doctah said.


In reality, Bruce "Capt. Codfish" Sweet owns the Sweet Dream II.  Doctah and I
are fairly regular crew.  40 is a good day.  One day we had 250.  Kept 150. Had
145� lbs fillets when through cleaning (about 3 person-hourse were spent in
said operation).

Tim

    
    	Well if you guys ever have room and want to let a rookie on
    board and show me some tricks let me know. I would gladely chip
    in on the expenses and etc..

>I would gladely chip in on the expenses and etc..

 Why that is illegal, as Bruce does not have his six-pack license. However,
my understanding of the law is that it is legal to "lose" money on the ground
near Bruce's truck. :-)

 The  Doctah

    From what I have been taught is sometimes laws need to be broken
    to have fun. Sometimes what people dont know is better off left
    at that ah??
    
    	I am sure this is a stupid questions but what does ya mean when
    you say bruce does not have a six-pack license?
    
    What kind of boat is the sweet dream II??

    
    	Well, I just got off the phone with Yankee Capts and this coming
    weekend fri-sun is there final days for this year. I just put my
    visa # down so I will try my luck this friday..
    
    	Any helpful hints out there for cod would be appreciated. I
    love the taste of fresh cod and hopefully i'll bring some home friday..

 A six pack license is slang for a charter captain license for up to six
passengers.

 The Sweet Dream II is a 25' Grady White.

 The Doctah

    Yeah, I agree, the crew's awsome and capt's an ass....
    
    6-pack is the coast gaurd license to take up to 6 folks out on
    a paid charter on an unispected vessal.
    
    How was your trip?
    
    Capt. Codfish

    
    	I have not taken the trip. I'll be taking it this friday. I'll
    log on friday night from home and let you know how I made out.
    Hopefully i'll be eating cod friday night..
    
    	Any great secrets on catching cod? Last time out I had better
    luck using a jig then bait but that was 2 years ago..

    	Up until my last trip out, (about a month ago), I was a dedicated
    bait fisherman. The last trip made me a believer in the jig. I used a pink 
    rubber shrimp as a teaser 18" above a 14 oz. diamond jig. The diamond jig 
    had irridescent silver prism decals on two sides to give it some extra 
    flash.
    
    	I did a short underhand cast about 20-25' out from the back of the
    boat and let it sink. Many of the cod I caught were already on by the time 
    the jig hit the bottom. If I didn't have one by the time my jig hit
    bottom, I'd jig it back towards the boat and reel in the slack after
    each pull.
    
    	As far as I can tell, the secret to my success seemed to be the
    pink rubber shrimp. I forgot where I got this from but I believe some
    of the tackle shops at the party boat piers carry them. 
    
    FWIW - I wound up with 25 lbs. of cod "fillets." Almost every cod I got 
    jigging was caught on the teaser. My father was fishing right next to
    me. After fishing the whole day, using bait, he only caught one cod. 
    
    	RAYJ

Blue, White, Green or Yellow bucktail teasers tied on a 6/0-8/0 O'Shaughnessy
work as well as pink shrimp (they resemble sand eels, or sand lances) and they
last longer too.

What we usually do is tie two dropper loops, about 18" apart and 18" above the
jig in 80# mono. 14-17oz Norwegian cod jigs are the main jigs on Sweet Dream
II.  In 50' or less, sometimes a 9oz is better, but only if it's very calm
out.

On the two dropper loops, tie your teasers.  I personally like a green/white
bucktail with a blue flashabou strip.  Pitch the jig a bit downwind if the
boat is drifting.  Find bottom and reel up 2-5'.  Jig up fairly sharply and
let the rod down smoothly.  Repeat every 5-10 seconds.  At least once a minute
re-find the bottom (essential if drifting).


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                       +--- teaser on dropper loop
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                       +--- teaser on dropper loop
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                      jig


Good luck,
Tim

(p.s.  Monday AM will suffice to tell us how you did...)

 One more thing about jigs...

 The size of the jig you use is largely a function of the amount of current,
the depth of the water _and_ the line weight that you are using. Most of us
routinely use 50 lb test line for codfishing, thus the use of 16 or 17oz
jigs when fishing 100-220 ft of water. You need that much weight to reach the
bottom efficiently and to keep the jig vertical in the water column.

 However, if you switch to 20 or 30lb test, you can get away with a 9 or 12oz
jig in the deep water. Sometimes the fish like the smaller jigs.

 The Doctah

    
    	Hi, Well I did not make it out fishing friday as I said but
    I did make it out sunday with Yankee Capts. I was going to try
    jigs but the crew and capt said bait (clams) were working well.
    There were about 5 or 6 guys jiggin with little luck and after a
    while everybody was using clams. The fishin was ok. I ended up
    catching 10 cod (5 keepers) and 1   8 lb cusk (sp?)
    
    This was the Final trip until next spring from the Yankee fleet
    ships..
    
    Just a f.y.i.

    	I can't say how well they will be running but the fish that you do
    catch should be in real good condition. It will be easy to keep the fish 
    cool during the which day should make for nice firm fillets. They will 
    probably be worm free this time of year too. Another plus is that you can 
    use bait instead of jigging which makes for a less expensive trip (vs. $5 
    a pop for a lost jig).
    
    	A tip I picked up on my last party boat trip is to bleed the fish.
    The mates were doing that to the fish they caught and you could see a
    noticable difference in the color of the fillet.
    
    	To bleed them, slice the thin piece of flesh on the bottom of the
    fish that connects the body to the head. If you do it right, the head 
    hinges back. It takes about 2 seconds to do.
    
    	Good Luck..........RAYJ

    	I agree, cold water = prime fillets. When I used to live in Mass
    I liked to catch the early cod fishing at Plumb Island in the surf. The
    fish were small (probably illegal by today's laws) but the fillets were 
    the best. It was uncomfortable fishing but tolerable as long as the
    brandy held out.                   
    	You've got me thinking...lets see April 1st is how many days away?

    Went out of Beverly last Sat. Couldn't go far as Port Marina wasn't
    pumping any fuel.  Headed up to Cape Ann Marina, fueled up, and on the
    way back we drifted around Manchester for ~45 minutes.  Hooked up w/
    6 cod.  A bit cold but we're looking to get out again this weekend.
    
    /MArk

 That's dedication. I was at Seabrook this past weekend, and I took a walk
along the beach. I wished I had my rod and some bait. :-) Lots of debris
along the beach; if you want to collect shells or anything, now's the time.

 So Bruce, when the Sweet Dream II returning to the brine? :-)

 The Doctah

    Mark Y. you animal...Give me a call if your heading out again, I'll
    bring my loran log!
    
    Doc...I am shooting for the last week of march this year (or sooner
    if the weather breaks enough). If I had an o/b and a trailer I would
    fish all year.
    
    Spent last nigh snelling hooks, I guess I have the feaver already.
    
    Capt. Codfish

    I went out early this summer for cod and caught alot of good 
    quality cod, but about a week ago my girls brother caught a 
    big one 108 pounds but a HALIBUT, a week after that he caught 
    a 60 pound cod. This is of a charter out of Newbury Port.