Conference wahoo::fishing

    is this delaney pond also known as SUASCO II (translation: Sudbury
    assebet concord pond two of three) ? i've  fished in SUASCO I in
    westboro with moderate success.
    
    If no could you give detailed directions? I know how to get to SUASCO
    II. no need for directions to there.
    
    P.S. the SUASCO's are also known as AI AII and AIII to the F+G of
    Massachusetts.

    Well I'm no bass expert (concentrating on trout) but we've been going
    out about twice a week and attacking the bass via float tube with
    fly rods and I'd say there are a few more bass hanging out on the
    edges than the occasional stray....we caught a dozen or so smallmouths
    last night all 1-2 1/2 lbs. Of course, we let them all go, and we
    do fish from just before dark until late. We've been catching up
    to 4lbers this week.
                                       
    dave

    To get to Delaney Project (Pond):
    
    Take Rte. 495 to the Rte. 117 East Exit.  Stay on Rte. 117 for about
    (4) miles until you see Harvard Rd. on your left. (If you get to
    Stow Center, you've gone too far).  Take Harvard Rd. and go for
    about (2) miles and you'll see a rest area and a boat ramp on your
    left.  At this point, you'll see Delaney right there. 
    
    					Good Fishing!

    Bottom_david:
    
    There's nothing like catching smallmouths on a fly rod, Huh?
    
    					Kim
    

    Smallmouths or largemouths I makes little difference to me, they
    both fight good, but the smallies definately are more fun to wtach.
    The pond we were on last night had smallies that hit very fast and
    danced on the top like salmon. Great action. Great fun now that
    the trout are down deep in their holes........
    
    dave

    Good to know that, since it is summer, you have a backup gamefish
    (and a good one at that) since the trout are deep.
    
    				Lookin' forward to fall spawn,
    
    				Kim
    

    Dave,
    
    They will let you write to any note file Eh.  This is Bart Lasky
    and I to have taken some small mouths this year on the old flyrod.
     I read about a bass pond out of this note file behind the Westboro
    speedway off of route 9 and believe it the pond is great!!  I went
    there last weekend and I swear every cast I caught a fish some small
    but a great time!
    
    				Bart Lasky
    

    What do you flyrodders use for bass? I tried a white/red popper
    and a frog popper the other night and got a couple of small ones
    at a small reservoir up here in Vermont. This was my first time
    with fly rod poppers.
    
    				Thanks,
    
    			          Joe (MAPLE::CASAZZA)

    re. .8:  I'm very fond of using home-made hand-spun deer hair "bugs"
    on a fly rod.  These have a spun deer hair body which is clipped
    to shape on completion along with two legs of longer buck tail usually
    of a different color.  I've used color variations of natural, dark
    brown, rust, yellow, orange, and white.  They look something like
    a frog with two trailing legs.  Their effect diminshes as the light
    diminishes because they aren't noise makers though.  They're excellent
    in the pads and small pockets during the summer months.
    
    Fun, fun, fun,
    
    Steve

    
"What do you guy's use for flyrod poppers"....welllll.....for the past
 couple of years I have  been having the best luck with the Cortland
 popping bugs...the best one (for me) is one with a big mouth painted
 red, a waspish waist and a fattish rear body. Color of body is pearl
 with red/yellow bullseye spots, three on each side. Hackle is black
 with yellow tails.......cost is about $1.25 (Cheep). Available everywhere
 on the little Cortland cardboard bug displays (except within 15 Miles
 or so of ASO, where I have cleaned the stocks :^) ). This one also
 comes in Jet Black. 
    
 These work very (VERY) good, on every bass pond I've tried, especially
 effective at dusk and after dark.    
    
    
    
    

	My best bass lure on a flyrod is a cork popper.  Black body
    with yellow eyes, and yellow saddle hackles and a rapped for a neck.
    Also white body with yellow for the day.
    
    The hair bugs are ok but get very heavy when wet.
    
    Bassin' bob
    

    The pond mentioned in Westboro behind the Westboro Speedway sould
    not be fished. It is called Hoccomca pond and it is a Dept. of
    Enviornmental Engineering (DEQE) hazardous waste site. (One of the
    top 10 worst in Massachusetts.) It is to be cleaned up in '88.
    Meanwhile it is posted and you are advised to stay out by any police
    in the area.

    My spelling is atrocious! Try Hocomoca (Hock-A'-Mock-A') Pond. 
    
    The Federal Government gave Superfund money to clean it up. Now
    the courts are attempting to recover some money from the various
    companies that owned the land over the last 90 or so years.
    
    At least another year of screwing around until this project is even
    started. Meanwhile to avoid a known carcinogenic substance don't
    even consider walking the shorelines!

    That's Massachussets for ya, I mean, what the hell you expect.
    
    				Make It In Massachussets

    
    Re. 10,
    
      Hie Ed ar theeze 'poappers' flees??(:-)). I hink ower here
     the nearist hing we've got tae them is a hing cawed the 'moose'
     ( the wee 'wummin screamer' hing, wi the lang tail ) an there
     quite deidly fur seetroots at nicht!
    
            I wid caw them a surface lure!, tho sum foalks caw them
     flees. There constructshin is quite simpil, ye tak a long shank
     hook an a treble hook. Tak the treble an lenth o stout nylin an
     loop it roond yin o the hook bends so that the nylin lies along
     the shank when pulled taught!, each end o the nylin is threeded
     thro the 'eye' so that they pass thro in diffrint directshins!
     the nylin is noo whipped tae the shank o the treble!.
    
    	    Nixt ye allow aboot .5"- .75" distince frae eye o treble
    tae bend o L.S. hook, an whip '1' lenth o nylin tae the shank o
    the L.S hook which is snipped oaff jist afore it reeches the eye.
    The '2nd.' lenth is laid parallleel tae shank an taken thro the
    eye o the L.S. an doubild back!, this is noo whipped securily up
    an doon the shank wi yer silk. Awe whippins ar noo varinished, 2
    coats!
    
           Nixt agane, ye tak a peece o coark aboot 2"es lang an shape
    it lik a wee ceegaur ( bit dinnae smoke this!) wi more o an accent
    tae a 'bow' o a boat et the front! yince ye,ve din this ye whip
    or gloo this securily tae L.S. hook so that the coark 'tail'is aboot 
    .25" in front o the eye o the treble!. Noo!, whit ye dae is paint
    the coark an whippins wi silvur paint an ye've trapped yer moose!
    
           The methid o fishin shood be similir tae yer poappers ,
    create a 'V' in the wake!
    
    		 cheery the noo..........Trapper
    

    It's seems as though, nowadays, a typical reply to:
    
      "I caught a nice lunker in "Whatever Pond" in Massachussets"
    
    is:
    
      "Geeziz! I hope you didn't EAT the damn thing!!!"

    	This is my first time using "NOTES" and i find the discussion
    here, excellent.  I live in western Mass. and don't fish much out
    east, but will be out in Bedford for a week in October.  If anybody
    could recommend some good bass spots to fish from shore or places
    I could rent a canoe or small boat, I sure would appreciate it.
    I love to bass fish although the largest bass I've caught was a
    smallmouth, estimated, at about 3 - 3 1/2 lbs..  
    
                   Paul W.   SPMFG1::WELLSPEAK
    

    RE:159.17, I do my smallmouth fishing in Maine, however, some good
    largemouth spots in Central Mass. is Knopps Pond in Groton, Spectacle
    Pond in Littleton, Leominster State Park (not sure what the name
    of the water is).  On Knopp's Pond, there are boat rentals at a
    good price.  Somewhere around $4.00 a day (24 hours) per person.
    
    					Kim Mikrut

    I used to fish knopps as a kid - as I recall they rented boats then
    without motors - you brought your own or rowed. We used to catch
    some heavy duty pickerel back then and the pond was stocked with
    trout for the deep water spots.
    
    do they have motor rentals with the boats now?
    

    re: 13
    
    
    Your note 13 must be bad luck thirteen.  You must not have followed
    the directions clearly.  The pond behind Westbro speed way mentioned
    in the notes is not Hucomucka (sp or whatever)  The directions tell
    you to continue to drive to the end of Ottis Rd well past the informass
    Hucom%#$% pond.  
    
	At the end of Ottis Rd. turn left then take next right. and
    you will find Mill pond road and the pond Mentioned.
    
    Bassin Bob'
    
   
    

    Hi me again, I may owe Bart Lasky an apology. I have spent all my
    life in Westboro fishing the various ponds. I.E. Big Chauncy Little
    Chauncy, Whitehall and SUASCO AI. When He said behind Westboro Speedway
    I assumed he meant behind Westboro Speedway. Hocomoca is 1/4 mile
    behind Westboro Speedway SUASCO AI is 3 miles behind Westboro Speedway.
    The water in Hocomoca (Hock-a-mock-a) is crystal clear with some
    of the wosrt chemicals known to man on the bottom. SUASCO AI
    (translation: Sudbury Assabet Concord flood control project 1 of
    three) is murky green with stumps and great blue heron. 

    Ken Thompson, who owns the boat landing at Knopp's pond, has about
    ten boats to rent (all wood row boats, except for one aluminum boat).
    He does not, however, have motors for these boats (I think it has
    to do with insurance and registration purposes).