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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

125.0. "Do-Nothing-Worm" by BOVES::BPUISHYS (Bob Puishys) Thu May 22 1986 13:26

    Hay folks,
    	I was just sending in my big summer order to Bass Pro shop,	
    and In the hundreds of worms in my list which I am going to order
    I came a long 'Do-Nothing-Worms' ??? could not decide if I really
   want them.  I know a few people who use them but have not herd of
    anyone really praising them.
    
    	So has anyone used or herd any info on :
    
    		Jack Chancellor's Do-Nothing-Worms.
    
    if so:
    	what ???
    		color, how to fish, rigg ect....
    any info will be nice.  And if any one would like to add comments
    on ofther types and styles of worms which they like, feel free
    to flame a bit on them.
    
    Bassin Bob
    
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125.1Mebbe its de same, huh??USHS01::BEAZLEYThu May 22 1986 16:022
    Don chere we got a mon dat sells a "do nuthin" cumputer, an he do
    prutty well, anh??
125.2do nuthin computersTORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Thu May 22 1986 17:148
    re.-1 
    
    Hey, they have PRO's down there too!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    anonymous	_in_case_there_are_any_PRO_type_fisher_people_out_there!!!
    
    8^)  8^)   8^)
    
125.3but seriously folksTORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Thu May 22 1986 17:175
    Ever try Pro Shop's Can-o-worms, they have an introductory offer
    that gives you a plastic container with 50bazillion worms of different
    type, and a free hat to!!!
    
    don mac 	ok_ok,_PRO's_aren't_THAT_bad....	8^)
125.4Peanut Butter and Jelly wormsSPMFG1::CUZZONESPut me in, coach. I'm ready to play.Fri May 23 1986 12:2225
    Bob, I have not used a lot of different worms, but I've recently
    been doing some comparison fishing with the no-name worms I bought
    by the pound at the last outdoor show and some Mann's Jelly worms
    I had left over from last season.  I bought the no-names in all
    colors and body-styles all in 6" length.  The jelly worms are grape,
    strawberry and motor oil/marmalade.  They all have a flat tail for
    a little extra action and they're 4" long.  I can't be sure why,
    but the jellies outcatch the no-names by 3 to 1 with no appreciable
    difference in the size of fish (bass) caught.  Color seems to matter
    because when one color stops catching fish, I switch to another
    color and can usually catch a couple more from the same spot.  I
    know that goes against the whole color-C-lector system theory, but
    it's true.  But, fish are individuals as much as people and maybe
    some fish are more conditioned to strike at one color and some fish
    more conditioned to strike at another.  Maybe it's even a phisiological
    diffence between the fish.  Any way, when the current supply runs
    out, I'll buy more Mann's, 6" in every color made.
    
    The only other worms I've tried have been Chummin (sp) worms and
    they caught nothing for me.
    
    A word of caution: if you use jelly worms, remember to pack a lunch.
    Their smell makes me hungry for a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.
    
    Steve
125.5BOVES::BPUISHYSBob PuishysFri May 23 1986 13:588
    Steve,
    	I have used the Mann's worms jelly and fs4-54 worms.  The grape
    or purple jelly was my favorite.  The fs454 worms work alot better.
    The stuff is so good I bought a tube.  
    Good luck with the peanut butter and try a bannana with it some
    time!!!!!
    bassin bob
    
125.6 A 'kilties' view !EAYV01::TRAVERSSun May 25 1986 04:3016
    
      I, feed ma wurms oan Haggis!, this is the oanly flavour 
      these Scottish fishes wull eat!, its no a bad stuff fur 
      us Scots tae eat tae, its guid wi mashed neeps an tatties!
    
    	i'm wurkin oan whit a caw ma 'Tartan' wurm, the noo!, if
     its gaunny be a sucess wi the fishes this yeer, i'll let yese
     ken, cause it mite dae away wi they 'fish C Lectur' things 
     yese hiv the use o ower there!, i,m usin wan o ma auld kilts
     frae when a wis a wee boy!, a cut a strip fae it an coat it
     in latex, this is this rubber stuff that dries clear!, i persnilly
     think these wee tartan wurms wull dance ok wi the fishes! i'll
     gie them a wee fling oanyway, an mibby try them first in the 
     Highlands. So yese can watch oot an see how they dae!
    
    			cheery the noo!...Trapper 
125.7Clan-o-wormsSPMFG1::CUZZONESWild Geese fly highTue May 27 1986 08:3213
    Trapper,  you could probably make a fortune with that over here.
    Don't bother testing it; as one current ad suggests, "Some lures
    catch more fishermen than fish".  I've seen glitter worms, two and
    three tone worms, candy striped worms, but never a plaid one.  I
    figure you use all the plaids (different clans?) and you've got
    a whole line; card 'em, shrinkwrap 'em and ship 'em over.  Need
    a partner?  
    
    Steve
    
    PS I foresee your tv ads giving serious competetion to Jerry Clowder's
    Majic Bait spots for the bizarro award.  Practice saying "Whoooooooeee"
    as loudly as possible.   
125.8FS454 Field TestSPMFG1::CUZZONESWild Geese fly highTue May 27 1986 08:4618
    In a serious note, Bob, I bought a tube of Mann's FS454 and tried
    it out this weekend.  I was out on Pontoosuc searching for the Tiger
    Muskie and it was a little slow.  So I grabbed a lighter setup
    and rigged a grape worm.  I smeared a little paste on it and tossed
    it toward the weeds.  For the next hour I forgot all about the Muskies
    as I hauled in Smallmouth after Smallmouth, pausing only to replace
    the worm or smear fresh paste on the boy.  I was so intent on the
    bass, I wasn't ready when a big muskie passed right under the boat
    (it might have been a northern).  I almost fell overboard reeling
    in the worm and throwing out the muskie-killer (big spinner with
    a tail).  I spent another 1/2 hour throwing that spinner but no
    luck.  Maybe I should have smeared it with FS454.  I later tried
    the FS454 trick on bluegills but either they're not susceptible
    or they were too intent on guarding their nests.  Doesn't matter,
    I'm convinced it works on bass.  Thanks for the tip.
    
    Steve
    
125.9fs454 -- flamming hot--BOVES::BPUISHYSBob PuishysTue May 27 1986 11:0324
    Steve,
    	I still think fs454 really works!!  Yesterday just before dark,
    I was just heading in last few casts, and there IT was a big hawg
    4-5 lbs just slowly moving in the weeds. 2feet water.  I had a fresh
    8'' motor oil/metal fleck worm on.  Had lots of FS on it,(the hook
    shank had a lot because I squized the tub a little to much so th
    scraped it off my had and put it on the shank) I flipped the worm
    4 feet past the fish way off to the side(what a s**() flipp) well
    the he saw the boat and started to swim slowly away.  Just so happed
    near the worm.  I gave it a few twitches, he stopped turn and swam
    at it, I twitched it again as he approached.  He grap the squirm
    tail and started to chew, then spit it out and went right for the
    hook end soucked it right in and started to swim away.  I set the
    hook on my four foot ultra light and the fight was on.  well my
    girl friend first attempt to net was fish was so unseccessful an
    the fish gave me such a good figh i just tryed the hook release
    and flipped it off.  Nice fish and it felt good to se it swim away
    on harmed.
    
    Well now that that flame is over....   Fs454 on the hook must have
    been the trick!!!!
    sorry for the flame.  Good fishing
 bassin bob
    
125.10Do-Nothing....FELIX::SCHOLZRon....and thanks for all the fishTue May 27 1986 12:5221
    Bob,
    
    Okay, back to the original question. Do-Nothing-Worms are not really
    do nothing worms, they are just another type of worm. Four inches
    long and "usually" rigged with the hook open, not Texas rigged,
    they are made by Jack Chancellor who used them to win the B.A.S.S.
    Classic last year. Used this way off the weeds beds and jigged or
    twitched like most other worm rigs. Jack also rigs them with a weed
    guard on the hook when he tosses into denser cover. He also rigs
    them with a trailer hook to get short strikes. The name comes from
    the fact that the worm doesn't have the "action" normally seen with
    other types of worms. NO fancy tail on his. Typical use would be
    with very small if any weight and pitched or flipped to the edge
    of the weeds or cover, then just let it sink. You can of course,
    use this technique with any worm.
    
    I don't use them up here as I believe that you need the action in
    the north that you don't need in the south because of the higher
    temperatures. 
    
    Hope this helps. Tight lines, Ron
125.11Do Nothing wormorabilia from the Skoal BanditPIGGY::VARLEYTue May 27 1986 17:2610
    
     I believe the origin of the "do nothing" worm was over 10 years
    ago with Charlie Brewer (who invented the slider as well). The
    technique involves using a flat, lightweight jig head and small
    thin specialy designed worm which is retrieved at a very slow, steady
    and even speed. The worm looks like a dead stick in the water, hence
    the name. Chancellor may be getting all the press, but he owes Charlie
    Brewer some mention. these have been documented in the old Fishing
    Facts magazines for years and are reputed to be most successful
    after (UGH!!) cold fronts. 
125.12 keep the lid oan!EAYV01::TRAVERSWed May 28 1986 08:5434
   Steve,.....   

	Och aye, i hiv a few clans o 'tartan specials' in ma hoose the
    noo! an a'm jist waitin fur a chance tae celebrate! but a'll need
   tae watch! 'cause the pebbledash is auffy sore oan masel.

	I, thank ye fur the oaffer o partnership!, but, i ken that there's 
   a lot o strange hings oan the market fur us fishermons, so, until a dae 
   a couple o try oots, we shood lie lo the noo!. Mibby ye cood contact
   Don Mac, an if ye plaid yer cards richt, an he's got an auld famly 
   airloom kickin aboot, yese cood dae some wee expirimints a'tween yersels!. 
   But, a widnae spray the specials wi that WD40 stuff cause ye'll release more
   than yese catch!

	A'm much in envy o the likes o coonass the noo, cause yese ur probly
  hivin sum guid fishin weathur the noo!, me masel, weel a hivnae been oot o 
  Winter yit! & Springs been a non sterter , so its wi 'great wonder' that
  a managed tae catch ma furst searun last nicht! oan a real wurm! a wee
  lively wan which scaled 2.5 pun, 20" lang. This mite be the stert o better
  hings tae come!. Oridginilly, cause a wis a wee bit 'doon in the dumps' wi
  fishin tae date, a had ment tae tell yese, that a've had tae use split
  peas insteady they 'beans' coonass telt us aboot, an, that a've had tae 
  split the split peas 'cause a didnae feel ful justificashun fur the use o
  a ful yin, its jist like the fishin ye ken!, sum fish ur netted quikker
  than ithers!, bye the bye, ma brane seems slightly the better frae last
  nicht's midwinter mirakill, an ma latest purge is this :- 

	hiv oany o yese used that Hi power gum stuff ??? if so,
 	whit dae yese think o it?? 


		The noo,Cheery & Reek lang yer lumbs may!

		 68/50/82............nhoJ repparT
125.13first coonass...now trapperASGMKA::TOMASJoeWed May 28 1986 09:3313
    Geez...I don't know 'bout you other guys, but it took me long enough
    to learn CAJUN to understand what Ole Coonass was trying to say...now
    Trapper John comes along and we've got to learn a whole new language!
                    
    Re: do-nuttin-worms...
    
    From what I've read, all the action for this worm has to done by
    the guy holding the rod.  I can't remember who it was, but one
    technique used was to cast the worm and to shake the rod tip slightly
    as the worm dropped.  This put a vibrating or jiggling action on
    the worm and is supposed to be very effective.
    
    -Joe macT- (who's_got_some_irish_blood_in_him_somewhere)
125.14 TORCH::MACINTYRELife's great, then u live forever.Wed May 28 1986 11:277
    re.12
    
    hmmmm, let's see, I could tear up ol' grand dad's kilts...
    
    maybe scrounge up some ol' pdp-8 front panel switches...
    
    put `em together with a tru-turn....  ya never know.... 8^)
125.15 howdy!!EAYV01::TRAVERSWed May 28 1986 12:3312
    
    weel Joe ,.. ye've got tae admit, it dis make life a wee bit
    		 more intrestin, theres nae harm hivin a wee drap o
    		 Irish blid in the famly either! there no a bad lot
    		 o folks!, suprisinly enuff, i fin it qwite eezy tae
    		 unnerstaund the Cajun! yince ye get intae the swing
    		 o it!
    
    		 Oanyway, a've gottae get hame an see the wee wommin
    		 so, cheery the noo! ( ma branes awe richt noo!)
    
    				Trapper...............
125.16do nothing - but catch fishSPMFG1::CUZZONESWild Geese fly highSat May 31 1986 12:4911
    I was thumbing through Cabela's latest this morning and looked over
    the pictures and description of the do-nothing.  They offer no details
    on how to fish it - you have to pay for that.  It is described as
    a system; worm, sinker, red bead and swivel, two hooks.  It looks
    like a cigaret; staight, untapered, short.  In fact there's even
    a smoke/fire color combination.  Since the spring catalog, they've
    added a do-nothing with a tail.  Looks funny.  $2.99 gets you the
    system including 5 worms ($3.29 with tails I believe).  I'll bite.
    Stay tuned.
    
    Steve