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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

35.0. "CANADIAN FISHING" by BRADOR::CONNOLLY () Thu Nov 21 1985 11:55

Hi,

Just found the "Fishing" notes and think its terrific, hope I can respond
and add some interesting facts to your file.  I noticed that it did not seem
that any FEMALES had answered - I hope I dont cramp your style, just spent
better part of morning reading all the notes so I have a lot of questions
and input.

Im based in Kanata (outskirts of Ottawa, Ontario) and we have some pretty
terrific fishing.  Im the proud owner of a fishing vessel (16 ft aluminum
with small Merc, Humminbird 4000, Trolling Motor etc.  We fish mostly at
our cottage at Blue Sea Lake, Maniwaki, Quebec (80 miles north of Ottawa) and
Blue Sea is a very large lake (25 miles around cir.)  very deep, 290 ft at
the deepest and is known world round for Lake Trout (huge) and Northern Pike,
also have small mouth bass, some white fish, and overabundance of sunfish
and perch, barbutte (mud-pout?).

Didnt have much success this year.  We did catch many pike (all over 6
lbs largest around 14) and  a beautiful laker which was 17 lbs and caught
on an old piece of sucker meat and a tru-turn hook!!! After spending my
lifes fortune on tackle and equipment!!! Life is funny!!!  We use the open 
bail method and tie the hook on directly (no leaders, weights etc - Lake
is extremely clear and fish are spooky) cast it out, let it sink and wait
till the line starts rolling off the reel -- wait till it stops, count to
three - verrrrrry slowly and set the hook (by the way dont lose your first
like me - was so excited forgot to close the bail!!) three times - this is
from a top guide at our lake - you must set it three time for Canadian
Trout ---- dont ask me why but we lost every one that we did not set his
way!!.

Ten days before Bass season opened we caught (and released - much whining
and crying) two nice bass on Cordell Big O's - mine was a Small Mouth (must
have been close to a record - because our lake is so cold they do not get
big) 27 inches long, and 5 1/2 lbs on the scales (did not want to damage
him so we took a guess) the other fish was a good 4 lbs.  Never saw another
bass till after the Pro-Bass Tournament on Labour Day Weekend.  The winner
(from the US) went home with $25,000 US, 2nd price was a Ranger Boat, Motor
and trailer (worth about 18,000 here in Canada) and all kinds of second
prizes - he won with 10 lbs of bass over a two day period.  We caught a
4 1/2 lb SMouth and a 3 1/2 right off the dock where they weighed in the
winners (released and hung around?) could have cried.

Dont want to bore you, but its so nice to "talk" to people who are really
interested in Fishing.  We have an old saying in Canada "The clock stops
ticking when you start fishing"  I think I should have shaved about 20
years off this summer!!

If I can be of assistance to anyone who comes up this far - please call
- if I can help I will.  Home number is 613-836-3386.  Im on the enet
on BRADOR::CONNOLLY.

Thanks for listening.  Hope some day I get down in your area to try it 
out.  By the way I have a right-handed baitcasting reel (never used but
engraved with my name for theft prevention) that I would like to trade
for a left-handed one - anyone out there bought the wrong one?  I bought
it while in Boston on a course - they are impossible to buy here for under
$100.  For your info - we pay 25 cents (at least) for a rubber worm each
here - cannot buy in bulk easily.  A pkg of Tomm Manns icky worms run us
$ 3.79 - verrrrry expensive to buy fishing equipment!  My trolling motor
(small Minn Kota) was bought in Boston (DEC plane pilot thought I was
nuts) for $45 and it sells for $145 - $189)  INCREDIBLE!!

Again, thanks for listening!

Sue

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35.1SPMFG1::CUZZONESThu Nov 21 1985 13:0116
Welcome to the Fishingfile, Sue.  I've read a lot of good stories about 
Canadian fishing.  My favorites are the ones about the virgin lakes way up
north where the fish have never before seen (fisher)man (or woman).  They say
the fish will hit any lure at all.  That's a refreshing change from the fish
down here that sometimes seem to have seen and tasted everything on the market.

I have heard that bass fishing is excellent just over the border.  Fish in the
4 and 5 pound range aren't shabby by our Massachusetts standards.  Sorry to hear
equipment is so outrageously priced in Canada.  Next time you're down this way,
have somebody direct you to Spags.  You'll faint from the bargains.

A closing question.  When does the regular season end and ice fishing begin 
around Kanata?  This file seems to heading in that direction for the winter.
Maybe you can give us a preview of the ice-fishing season.

Steve
35.2BRADOR::CONNOLLYThu Nov 21 1985 13:4339
Hi Steve,

Wow got an answer already - feel like I'm finally HOME !!

Before I answer your questions on ice fishing and seasons I will check
with the Fishing Guides put out by Ontario & Quebec Fishing Ministry
so I dont lead you down the wrong path.  Ice fishing is open for bass (?)
(never heard of anyonw specifically fishing for them in winter here but...) 
and pike until spring.  Lake Trout does not open until early spring and
I know many people who have in the past taken "lunkers" through the ice
and ran to shore with them down the legs of snowmobile suits - we are
discouraging it with a lot of advertising plus very stiff fines (dont
know the U.S. rules but here you lose all your equipment which can include
your boat, motor, trailer and vehicle plus heavy fines.

So let me check tonite in the Fishing Regulations and will get back with
definite dates.

Our lake, Blue Sea, in Quebec is well-fished and is now very hard to fish,
it took most of the summer (Im talking 8 hr days in the boat) to chart
the lake with the Humminbird - much talk at the lodge where we blew a
few theories all to H...!)  we can find them, lots of them, but are
having trouble catching consistently.  We can travel to many many lakes
within a 10 mile drive and find the fishing much much better - seems to
be the lakes where motor sizes are restricted and windsurfing prevails.

All told it was a terrible year for fishing, not just by our standards but
the lodges did no better - and the results of the Tournament (these were
pro's !!!) show the same.  We had a very cool summer with wierd weather.
We froze till the end of June which is supposed to be the best time to
fish here.  We did hire a guide and go to Laverendye Park which is well
known for "virgin" fishing.  We caught enough pickeral for our lunch before
a storm blew in, but it was the first time our guide "was skunked" for
the limits you are allowed.

Let me get back to you with the correct dates - also know most of the
bait shop owners here if you need advice!

35.3KATADN::BLUMWed Nov 27 1985 11:536
Sue, good to have you with us, do any flyfishing????

When are you inviting us all up for a good fish???

                                 Ed
35.4MTBLUE::ROBBINS_GARYFri Feb 07 1986 11:514
I CAN'T RISIST ASKING ABOUT YOUR NODE; BRADOR.  DOES IT STAND FOR "BRADOR"
BRAND MALT LIQUER THAT IS SOLD IN CANADA ?  WE GOT INTO SOME OF THAT STUFF
WHEN WE RAN OUT OF OUR U.S. BREW ON A SALMON FISHING TRIP TO QUEBEC LAST
YEAR.
35.5NEED A LITTLE LUCK!!!BRADOR::CONNOLLYWed Jun 04 1986 12:1823
    Gary, 
    
    Just found your question, hadnt been able to read the NOTES for
    awhile.  Yes it stands for Brador Beer.  How'd ya feel after drinking
    it?  We had a great reaction from others over it and have a huge
    "Brador" pub sign up over the Vax (hidden from view).
     
    How did you do on your Quebec salmon trip?  Just heard our lake
    (Blue Sea, Maniwaki, Quebec) was stocked with 10,000 10 inch Lake
    Trout last week.  Sigh -- whats there is soooo hard to catch, fishing
    should really pick up with all those little ones searching for food.
    We could use some good fishing, our lake is so big, so clear, so
    cold that we dont have very good luck.  I have all the equipment
    (downrigger, Humminbird 4000, etc) but no luck to go along with
    it - it s getting discouraging.  Especially since we are strictly
    Catch & Release and we see so many "oldtimers" with full stringers
    - who needs to eat 6 Lake Trout a day.  I just want to see one on
    the end of my line. 
    
    
    Sue.
    
    
35.6TRIP OF A LIFETIME????PD750::CORBETTKEKENNY CHINOOKWed Jun 04 1986 19:2418
    This seems like a good place to write about my upcoming trip to
    see if anyone has done anything like it.
    
    We are driving to Vancouver, B.C. tomorrow (thur) and then catch
    a plane (probably a Ford Tri-motor) to West sound.  Best I can figure
    out it's located between Vancouver Island and the mainland.  Part
    of the inland passage to Alaska, I think.  Anyway, they have a 222
    foot ship anchored there and that's where we'll be staying.  They
    use small boats, 6 passengers, to shuttle you to the fishing spots.
    
    The fishing will be for chinook (limit 4 fish/day) and halibut.
    It sounds wild since the salmon population on the west coast this
    year is the greatest in recorded history.  They say they're really
    knocking 'em.  I'll let you know when I get back on Monday.
    
    
    ken
    
35.7I'M ENVIOUS!!ASGMKA::TOMASJoeThu Jun 05 1986 09:4213
    Well...my fishin buddy just left this AM to meet a friend who lives
    in Anchorage, Alaska for a week of cruising in a 44' yacht for 10
    days.  They're planning to hit the mouths of a number of rivers
    for chinook and king salmon (50 pound class?) and then to do some
    fishing for Dolly Varden trout.  I wish him lots of luck!
    
    Although I've told him about this notefile, he still has yet to
    log in.  Maybe we can incite him to respond if you all simply FORWARD
    this note to his mail stop and tell him to GET WITH IT!!
    
    His name is Chris....at ASGMKA::FLETCHER.
    
    -Joe-
35.8UCLUELET FISHINGPD750::CORBETTKEKENNY CHINOOKMon Jun 09 1986 17:4323
    I just got back from my first Canadian fishing trip and would like
    to report it was GREAT!!!!!!!
    
    We flew out of Vancouver, BC on thursday (a de Havilland turbo-prop)
    and landed on Vancouver Island on an old abandoned military strip.
    They picked us up by bus and delivered us to a 235 ft floating hotel.
    The fishing started at 6AM Friday and ran til 1 PM every day.  I
    caught 7 chinook the first day - 10 to 25 lbs.  I had to give three
    away, but was able to catch three more on Saturday.  I also caught
    some ling cod and one halibut.  
    
    They handle everything from cleaning to icing to ferrying it back
    to your car for you.  It was really a trip and I've got enough fish
    to start a store.  At 4-5 dollars a pound, I think I came out ahead.
    This whole trip, 2 nights lodging, airfare, and chartered boat is
    a package deal for $209 canadian.  You can't beat it.
    
    Beautiful country, friendly people, and GREAT fishing.
    
    ken
    
    
    
35.9Fletcher hits Alaska..but it was fun anywayASGMKB::FLETCHERBass_Buster_FletchWed Jun 18 1986 15:5140
< Note 35.7 by ASGMKA::TOMAS "Joe" >
                               -< I'M ENVIOUS!! >-

    Well...my fishin buddy just left this AM to meet a friend who lives
    in Anchorage, Alaska for a week of cruising in a 44' yacht for 10
    days.  They're planning to hit the mouths of a number of rivers
    for chinook and king salmon (50 pound class?) and then to do some
    fishing for Dolly Varden trout.  I wish him lots of luck!
    
    Although I've told him about this notefile, he still has yet to
    log in.  Maybe we can incite him to respond if you all simply FORWARD
    this note to his mail stop and tell him to GET WITH IT!!
    
    His name is Chris....at ASGMKA::FLETCHER.
    
    -Joe-
OK,Ok,All you slimebuckets out there,I've been shamed into logging in!
This notes stuff is a bit confusing to us amateurs but I guess I'm getting 
the hang of it.

The Alaska trip was absolutely out of this world. Sailing in Prince William
Sound...a land of incredible beauty.
Then down the Kenai and Russian Rivers for salmon. A bit disappointing 'cause
we were too early for the big runs but not all that bad...when the salmon are
running all of Alaska turns out (and most of the US it seems) and the place is 
a ZOO...elbow to elbow...
Then Kachemack Bay for Cod,Halibut,shrimp,Dolly Varden. Lots of folks netting
Hooligan(down here,Smelt). 
There are salmon runs on P.W.Sound that are far from the crowds and I'd like
to get back in the next couple of years for a chance at them. Last week in June
through July 4 week seems to be the best and if you like crowds,the Kenai and
Russian Rivers are spectacular. It seems the Russian River has one of the few
Salmon species that WILL take a streamer while heading up river. Red and white
streamers on HEAVY hooks will take these beauties. Too bad I was in the river
at the wrong time...but beautiful anyway...
I hear there is a second run around Labor day,too...

I guess while I was up in Alaska,TOMAS got hizself SOME KIND of a stringer...

rumor has it at 7 Bass and approx 24 lbs. Not bad Joe. 
35.10!?@*)&...Rumors my A**!ASGMKB::TOMASJoeWed Jun 18 1986 16:156
    WADDAYA MEAN RUMOR!!!  It was TOTALLY LEGIT!!
    
    I should have been in a Bass Masters Classic tournement...I could
    have won me a Ranger like Ron's!
    
    -Joe-(headin_back_to_the_ole_honeyhole_soon)
35.11CHEAP CANADIAN FISHINGCYGNUS::MAYERThu Oct 02 1986 18:0231
    
    CHEAP CANADIAN FISHING
    
    Took a trip in August of 1985 to Lake Frotet, 60 miles northwest
    of Chibugimau (sp.), Quebec, near Lake (Lac) Misstissini. EXCELLENT
    Pike, Walleye and Brook Trout Fishing. Two public campsites (very
    primitive) accessible by boat only. The cheap part is that you can
    drive to the lake, which is amazing considering how far north it
    is. As for your choice of vehicle, however, there would seem to
    be only three choices: a.)a truck with a LOT of ground clearance,
    b.)a 1967 Chrylsler Newport, i.e., a generic rust bucket, or c.)a
    brand new rental car, fully insured. Five days of a rental car is
    still cheaper than one of the $1000/week "lodges" Northern Quebec
    is famous for.
    
    The week my friend and I went there, we had a 10 X 30 mile lake
    completely to ourselves. As far as types of boats go, I took my
    17 foot aluminum canoe with a 2 horse Evinrude and it took most
    of the water just fine. We caught pike and walleye AT WILL, like
    every five minutes, trolling surface Rapalas. The brook trout went
    up to three pounds and were in the streams connecting the myriad
    of lakes in the area.
    
    It rained all day, every day, for five days, but who cares when
    yer catchin fish? 
    
    Anyone interested in fishing this fantastic, affordable lake, contact
    me anytime for more info.
    
    Rich
    
35.12movedCOLORS::MACINTYREDon MacIntyreThu Apr 21 1988 13:4527
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Note 38.0                     ICE FISHING IN CANADA                   No replies
BRADOR::CONNOLLY                                     22 lines   2-DEC-1985 15:57
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In answer to your questions on ice fishing in the area of Ottawa, Ontario,
CANADA.  There seems to be very little you cannot fish for from the time
the ice forms.  Pike, Bass, Walleye are open till next spring.  In January
there is a couple of weeks that you can fish for trout of different species.

I know you will need a license, but other than that it seems to be open to
fish through the ice.  This is the advice I got from a Tackle Shop owner
who sells the licences ... there is a shortage of Ministry Books on Fishing
Regulations but I trust this advice will suffice.

Any advice on Downriggers?  I have been walking around the house singing
"Happy Cannon Downrigger to me" as I have a birthday coming.  I think they
have the hint but are looking very edgy every time I break into singing.

We have been looking at the Cannon Econo-rigger ($245.00 here) which includes
the clamp-plate, weight, and release.

Any suggestions?

Sue Connolly

35.13Cape Britain, Nova Scotia, CanadaCOLORS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth BassTue May 03 1988 12:5113
    Anyone familiar with fishing in Cape Britain?                      
                                                                       
    The wife and I will be heading up there this summer, and I'm sure  
    I'll bring a rod or 2 along - possibly the canoe - maybe the boat? 
                                                                       
    Any smallies up there?  I'd guess that the trout fishing is good.
                                                                       
    Roland did a show from New Brunswick recently where he gave the  
    impression that the smallmouth fishing is excellent (the bass still
    enjoy the junkfish status!).  So I'd be tempted to stop along the
    way too...                                                       
                                                                     
    Don Mac                                                          
35.14that's CAPE BRETON KANE::MOLLOYWed May 04 1988 14:3913
    there is no where in cape breton that contains smallmouth.  the
    only place in nova scotia which has any bass is kings co. and halifax
    co.  i would be willing to bet that you'll be just about the only
    person fishing for them.  i lived in nova scotia for 20 years and
    only knew of one person who would actually TRY to catch bass.  and
    we wondered about him before we found that out!  you can catch trout
    just about anytime of the year especially in cb.  the map i have
    list's about 12 lakes(ponds in nh) which contain bass.  the 'nova
    scotia sports and activities guide' doesn't even list them as a
    game fish!  call or write the provincial government for more
    information, they have lots.                    
    
    regards.......john
35.15Thanks JohnCOLORS::MACINTYREIn search of the Largemouth BassThu May 05 1988 13:291
35.16License requirements?TOPDOC::AHERNDennis the MenaceMon Jun 06 1988 16:247
    Does anyone know what the license requirements for non-residents
    is in Newfoundland and Nova Scotia?  I've heard that in NFLD. you
    need to hire a guide to legally fish for salmon, but not for trout.
    
    How much is the license?  For how long?
    
    
35.17old prices !KANE::MOLLOYMon Jun 06 1988 17:186
    a nova scotia non-resident fishing license was $30 cdn last year.
    that's for a season, i don't believe they have anything else.
    
    in 1986 a newfie non-resident salmon license was $40 cdn and a
    non-resident trout was $10 cdn.  you don't need a guide to fish
    for trout in nfld.
35.18NS NFLD REGSMIMIC::DOWNINGTue Jun 07 1988 08:4712
    Per 1988 regulations, you don't need a guide to fish for trout or
    salmon in Nova Scotia.
    
    In NFLD and Labrador, you don't need a guide if you are fishing
    a non-scheduled river or if you are fishing within a 1/4 mile upstream
    or downstream of any bridge crossing a scheduled river (most easily
    accessible waters in NFLD are scheduled waters). In all other cases,
    a non-res. must use a guide. The regulations are unclear about guide
    reqs. for ponds or lakes that are not in a scheduled river watershed
    however.
    
    When are you going? I'll be doing NS and NFLD from 17 Jun to 8 July.