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Title:Fishing Notes- Archived
Notice:See note 555.1 for a keyword directory of this conference
Moderator:DONMAC::MACINTYRE
Created:Fri Feb 14 1986
Last Modified:Fri Sep 20 1991
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1660
Total number of notes:20970

20.0. "BEST BASS LURES" by SPMFG1::CUZZONES () Tue Jul 16 1985 15:24

The latest issue of BASSIN' (formerly ProBass) identified the number one
all-time bass lure as the rubber worm and number two as mabe a spinner.
They neglected to comment on technique which may account for my lack of
results.  For the last month or so, I've been fishing for bass in Hampton
Ponds in Westfield Ma with very little luck.  The ponds look like an ideal
bass habitat; lilypads, weeds, some trees, rocks and stumps.  I've tried rubber
worms, a couple Mepps spinners (Aglia and a black w/orange spots) a gold
Rapala floater and live nightcrawlers.  The 'crawlers caught a few perch and
bluegills, the rubber worms caught a couple small bass and the lures haven't
been touched although a huge catfish followed the aglia almost right up to the
shore.  Other fishermen I've talked to say they've had good results with some
of the same equipment.

Any suggestions; retrieve speed, different lures, shiners, "fish formula", 
buy a boat, stay at home, another WMass body of water ?

Steve
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20.1TRACTR::DOWNSWed Jul 17 1985 13:0719
 Sounds like you've been using the right stuff but maybe at 
the wrong time. Even though both the rubber worms and the 
spinners will produce all day long, they do best at the 
cooler times of the day - early mornings and about dusk.
If you do fish during the mid day hours try looking for 
locations that are shaded such as undercut banks, 
overhanging trees, under docks, rafts or even abandoned 
boats.

 I've now moved to New Hampshire but grew up in your area, 
and I remember Hampdon Ponds as always having alot of people and 
boat traffic about this time of year. This fact could make the fish 
alittle spooky, thus harder to catch.

 One bass'in area near you that has really been under 
utilized is the Connecticutt River. Just about anywhere in 
the river is good for bass and some of the fish can run 
quite large. Try south of Holyoke or just below Springfield. 
You might be surprised at what you come up with.
20.2AURVAX::MOMBERGERWed Jul 17 1985 16:4426
It's been my experience over the past several years that that best bass bait 
by far is the plastic nightcrawler.  It takes time to get used to using it, 
but when you do, get ready for a whole lot of excitement.

It seems the early spring months of April and May are the best time for using
plastics.  Fishing them on or near the surface usually produces results. These
are the months the bass are preparing to nest, and are generally in a feeding
frenzy.  It's not unusual to net a six pounder! 

I have had my best luck this past spring using a 8" dark purple crawler and a 
dark purple twister tail salamander.  These produced the best results on 
southern New Hampshire lakes on cool cloudy days.  I used a slow retrieve 
speed and ran them just under the surface of the water, generally near shallow 
structure (i.e. fallen trees and dense weed beds).  The results were truly
spectacular.

During the Month of July and the beginning of August are the toughest times to 
fish for lunker bass.  Their relatively inactive and take a lot of patience to 
catch.  The best suggestion I can offer is to fish the deeper pools with 
brighter colored plastics.  Use a slow retrieve speed and don't get 
discouraged. 

The later part of August and the months of September and October should prove 
to be quite good.  Watch the water temperatures and the weather as they are 
prime factors in the feeding habits of lunker bass.  Also, keep a journal of 
what you used and where.  It will prove to be useful.
20.3POTTER::BPUISHYSMon Jul 22 1985 11:4628
PLASTIC WORMS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The best lure every made!     the last two notes gave very good advice.
It took me may years to master the use of the worm.  I like 8" to 10" worms
use mostly 8" with a small squirm tail.  good old JELLY WORMs are fine too.

	As for the color dark grape purple is the all time best.  now
i could say purple/firetail is my prefered.   I have a large selections of
worms and buy in large amounts.   dark water dark worm,(black purple)
 				clear water natural,(purple,green,redspec)
I also like a blue when fishing deep holes on hot summer days.  don't
know why just do.

In spring fish worms near top, skipping across tops of pads stumps and flooded
shore lines.  this time of year is tuff.  Fish the shady parts of shore lines.
Or even better at dusk.  weekdays (wed thur) for ponds with a lot of 
weekend boat traffic.   gives the fish a chance to unspook!

I use the cast sink to bottom, let sit, then slow twitching and bouncing
through cover for the fall.  don't like sinkers takes away from worm action
but does get them down in deep water and (the longer worms I use will float
the swivel and big hook is the only weight used.) as the weather gets hotter
worm fishing slumps.   I then like early morning and dusk as well as night 
fishing with loud surface plugs.

good luck and don't get discourged,  worm fishing takes a long time to master
fish as much as posible with them.

20.4MILVAX::TARYWed Jul 24 1985 12:2434
Hi!  I just found this NOTESFILE and I think it's great.  Though I may not
be able to contribute much, I'll do my best.  I've been fishing (or I
guess it's more "pretending to fish") for years, but decided to go out
and spend my hard earned money on a tackle box and some tackle just this
year.  It has already payed off (for me, at least), with hopefully more
results to follow.  Anyway, back to the real point....

I've bought the Mann's plastic (Grape) Jelly Worms, but haven't had much
luck.  From the previous responses, I guess it does take time.  I've had
the best luck using several different Mepps spinners.  I have the Aglia,
Black Fury, and another one that I forget the name of that has one of
those brown, feather-like tails on the "business" end of it.  I have caught
various pan-fish with the Black Fury (the black with orange dots spinner),
and even one pan-fish with a Hula-Popper (of course he DID have to work
really hard to get himself caught on that one -- but I mention it because
I have gotten hits off it).  But just two weeks ago I was on Lake
Mattawa (sp?) in Orange, Mass., and was having no luck until I went to
that little spinner with the tail.  We were trolling around the edge of
the lake when I felt a pull on the line and brought in a small Bass.
It was good enough to bring home and save-face with, so in the bucket it
went.  Well, a little farther up, the same lure hooked a two pounder 
(Bass again) that put up a better fight than you would think.  It was
getting late, so we packed it in, thinking that was a positive note to
end the day on.

Sorry if this is getting too long.  My point basically is that I've had
luck with the spinners.  I've used floating Rapala's and swing-tail
minnow types, but haven't been as fortunate yet.  I think the spinnners
may be worth a try, since they're not all that expensive anyway.

Good luck, and most of all, ENJOY!!


Imre Tary
20.5PICA::BLANCHETTEThu Jul 25 1985 03:3843
My basic bassin' box contains:

	Large spinners for early spring.

	Plenty of worms, for dragging slowly across the bottom throughout the
	summer. I always cut off any hooks past the middle of the worm. Bass
	will almost always hit their prey from the front, and since the most
	effective method of using the worm is to drag it slowly across the
	bottom, this lessens your chances of getting hung up. The drawback
	to this practice, is that Bluegills will often snap off the tail,
	(since they hit from the rear,) rather than get caught on the trailing
	hook. Then again... I'm not so sure this is really a drawback... Some
	of the largest bass I've seen caught locally, 5+ lbs., have been
	caught on half-worms, while I stood nearby, fishing with a full-length
	worm.

	Largest Jitterbugs I can find, for mid-summer. (I usually remove some
	of the hooks... It just doesn't seem fair with all those treble hooks
	for them to get hung up on...)

	Fake frogs... My favorite. The only one I've found to be effective,
	though, is the Bill Plummer frog. It will often produce bass when
	nothing else will, and can be slowly jerked through heavy weeds with
	very few hang-ups. There's a problem with this one, though. You won't
	catch the small ones, if that's what your after. It has 1 hook, with
	a strong weed guard, so your chances of setting the hook are poor if
	the bass doesn't take the whole thing into it's mouth when it strikes.
	This is not usually a problem with fish 3 pounds and up...

	Rapala (or look-alikes)... Good just about anytime. My best experiences
	have been with the one that looks like a rainbow trout.

    With all of the above, I've found that the best technique is the slowest
retrieval possible. (Bass are usually lazy...).
    The size of the bass you'll catch is proportionate to the size of your
lure. If you don't want to waste time on small bass, perch, and bluegills,
get the largest size available (within reason, now... Don't go for the deep
sea rigs unless you know for sure that the real lunkers are there :^)
    I prefer using the surface lures, since the fish is more likely to jump
out of the water to try to shake it, if it's near the surface, which makes
for a more exciting "fight".

-bb
20.6SNICKR::WIERSUMTue Jul 30 1985 13:502
the weather has been a heavy factor recently-- crazy fronts moving in and out ect.  also buy a boat and invite me. try a "color clector". don't be afraid to toss a black and silver repala INTO THAT STRUCTURE, LET IT SIT AND TWITCH IT.
HEAVY LINE IS A MUST BECAUSE YOU'LL NEED TO HORSE THE BIG BASS OUT.  YOU WILL ALSO LOOSE SEVERAL PLUGS. IT WORKS, AND IT WAS WRITTEN ABOUT IN THE LAST ISSUE OF
20.7PUNDIT::THEBAULTFri Aug 02 1985 14:1746
	Try using a rubber worm rigged Texas style with various colored
tails.  Red tails, pearl tails, yellow tails all work well.  Also use
purple,motor oil and black bodied rubber worms with the various tail colors.
I find that under various conditions: the place,time of day,weather,
water temperature,average water depth and underwater structures, you may
try everything for colors and only one color will be productive.  You have 
to change frequently until you get action then keep that bait as long as it 
continues.  I use my rubber worms without weights and let it sink slowly
on the cast.  Then I let it set about 20 seconds, pull the rod back then 
forward to reel in the slack.  Then wait a few seconds and reel.  Repeat
this until your line is all in or of course if you get a hit.  There are
excellent weedless hooks that I use which can be bought at the FISHERMANS
HUT on MANCHESTER STREET which is off Elm in Manchester N.H.  Ask for the
LEW'S weedless bass hooks.  These are double sided hooks, the top being
smaller than the actual bottom which hooks the fish.  These make it quick
to change rubber worms and make them last a lot longer.  When you get these
hooks, put the head of the worm in the top hook and the belly in the bottom
hook being careful that the hook doesn't penetrate through the other side
and your ready.

Hope this helps!
Good Luck
MEL























20.8JAKE::MACKEYMon Aug 19 1985 16:036
Well.... While living in the Mass area for two years... I caught both Bass,
and I ate one of them!! Good luck..... I moved to Texas.


Dave Mackey
F.S. Account Mgmt.
20.9KATADN::BOTTOMFri Aug 30 1985 13:437
The best bass lure I've ever used is a pearl popper with red spots and
a yellow and black tail. attached of course to a fly rod.

Down south this is considered an unfair advantage in fishing derbys.
Fly rods that is.

dave
20.10NY1MM::KAMINERWed Oct 30 1985 12:3424
Hello out there fellow fisherman.

I fish the New York City Watersheds, I have had the most success fishing the
plastic worm for bass and yes pickerel.  I found the best worm is the Culprit
Worm using a painted jig head.

During the last two outings, I caught 9 Bass over 2lbs (largest almost 4lbs).
All were caught on a Culprit Worm (Red/Black Shad).  The fish usally hit as the
lure travels down or when it is jigged off the bottom.  

The Culprit worm can be ordered from Bass Pro Shops (1-800-PRO-BASS) also
order the Jig heads.

The NYC Watersheds are located within 1 hour from NYC and provide some of the
best Fresh Water Fishing in the area.  Besides Bass and Pickerel, some of
the Watersheds have Brown Trout (up to 20lbs), Rainbow Trout and Lake Trout.
I've caught small browns on 2-4 lb test but I'm still waiting for a big one.

If there is anyone out there that would like to hear more about fishing the 
Watersheds Just let me know and we can start a note devoted to NYC fishing.

I'd Rather be Fishing...

RBK
20.11USHS01::BEAZLEYTue Dec 03 1985 10:5822
Hello from south of the Mason-Dixon line!!
I live in Dallas, but I fish in Louisiana where I have a fishing camp. Here in
Dallas there are 8 or 10 man-made lakes built since the '60s, but I favor the
natural lake environment, cypress trees and all.
My popular lures are probably unknown to many of y'all with some exception. We
down here use plastic worms(all colors and shapes) mostly in the Fall and
winter and crank baits in the spring and summer. My favorites are Rapalas
(sinking), bucktails, rebels(white and yellow), torpedos, and devil's horses.
There is excellent spring and summer topwater bass fishing in front of my camp
(the lake is 15-20 miles by 4-5 miles wide). We fish worms next to the channel
beside the larger cypress trees lining the channel.
If any of you heavy bass fishermen find yourself in this area(northeast Texas
or northwest Louisiana, let me know and I'll take you down to the camp and try
your luck.
Incidentally, we do a little fly fishing in the spring down here(the trees are
a bit of a bother, tho) and the only things I am aware of that are an "unfair
advantage" in a fishing derby are dynamite, electrical current, and bringing
in fish from another location. A few of our "good ole boys" are marking time at
the cross-bar hotel for doing just this last year!

Y'all come now y'hear!!

20.12SPMFG1::CUZZONESFri Dec 06 1985 09:3918
My luck has changed considerably since I posted the original base note in
July.  I was clearly fishing the wrong body of water.

Since early fall, my best catches have come on Man's Jelly Worms.  The most
productive has been marmalade/motor oil but strawberry and grape have been
good too.  Funny thing, I used to think a pack of rubber worms was a lifetime
investment.  But, the way the bass tear into these things, one worm catches
two-three fish at the most before I have to replace it on the hook.

Spinners have been productive, too.  A red and white Mepps Aglia and a "sonic"
spinner (there's a bell around the top  of the treble hook) have been my best
catchers.  Other good devices have been a rubber shad and a sinking rapala
(the floater still hasn't caught anything).

It's getting a little late in the season for bass, but I'm looking forward to a
much better spring next year.

Steve
20.14MOSAIC::FISHERMon Dec 09 1985 14:2925
Hey Steve, I grew up in that neck of the woods. Have you made it over to 
Buck pond? It's small and there aren't alot of fish in there, but you have
a shot at some monsters. I know of an 8 and 2 6s that came out of there
in the not too distant past. Two were caught on rubber worms one on a
Big O cankbait (it is a big crank bait too).

Don't give up on Hampton, there are still some fine fish in there as well
You just need to avoid it on weekends. Fish early.

Also try Thousand Acres way out near Sandisfield State Park. There is 
another note about Western Mass spots but I thought you'd like to know.

Also I wasn't sure if your problem with worms was lack of strikes or
not being able to set your hook after a strike. I'd throw a tiny
torpedo (frog pattern with yellow belly) in your box. Early in the spring
it can be dynamite. Actually any time you have a calm surface it can
produce.

My brother used one this summer out this way (Worcester County). He 
couldn't believe it when it just disappeared with a small plop. A 6 1/2
pounder just inhaled it. I had to yell at him to set the hook!

See you on the ponds

Guy
20.15SANFAN::SAUNDERMITue Dec 10 1985 17:2413
Out here in California, rubber worms are also very popular.  I have not had
much luck with, probably because I don't use them much and I fish primarily
for trout and salmon.  My favorite bass bait, tho, is a medium spinning spoon
(about 1.5-2 inches of flasher), a long shand #4 hook, and a piece of pork
rind trailing.  Drives the bass crazy in the spring and fall.  Fish with
continuous movement, keeping the spoon spinning and the pork rind twisting.
I have seen bass travel over 15 feet to get it.  And when they hit, you have
to be ready.  I almost fell out of a boat when I had an 8 pounder hit it
one day.

Mike S.
Fishing the West

20.16ram the hook home!LUDWIG::WOOLDRIDGEThu Jun 04 1987 21:4416
  I cannot disagree with plastic worms (mann's in particular) however
    I do disagree with comments on the time they are most productive.
    With out a doubt it is the in the heat of the summer when bass are
    lazy. A slow 2" a minute retrieve with a jerk now and then may be
    all that will work on a hot summer sunny day. HOWEVER... my favorite
    way to fish bass is top water. HULA POPPERS, JITTERBUGS, FROGS,
    and HEDDON SPOOKS to name a few. Actually the more noise and action
    sometimes the better. They get real angry when you rip something
    past thier condo. As other choices I like BUZZ baits. Rapalas work
    as well but they snag the line alot so I rarely use em. Use a bass
    attracting scent too, if it does not work at least you smell
    sucessful!!
                                   ram the hook home!
                                                         Kyle~
    
    
20.17The incredible edible wormVICKI::DODIERMon Jun 08 1987 08:4629
    Re:16
    	If you like top water fishing and you like worms, you can do
    both. I have been fairly successful casting a worm into patches
    of dense lily pads and retrieving it slowly across the top of the
    pads (like a water snake). Burkes Snake-Bait would probably do well
    here also but I've never actually tried them. When a bass hits a
    worm fished in this manner, it has the same affect as fishing top
    water. This seems to work best, as you already mentioned, on those
    hot summer days when the bass are in the pads trying to get out
    of the hot suns rays. You can also do this on the edge of lily pads
    with a fairly fast retrieve to keep the worm on top.

    	The most effective way I've found to fish a worm came about
    accidentally. If any of you have ever cast over an overhanging branch
    so that your worm is hanging straight down in the water, try this
    next time. Lift and lower the worm in and out of the water. I don't
    know what the bass thinks this is (a caterpillar on a silk thread
    maybe) but it drives them absolutely nuts. If there is a bass anywhere
    near it they will come over and knuckle it. This works best if the
    branch is a small one which will bend out of the way or break when
    you set the hook. Even if it's not you can lift them out of the
    water and go over and get them if they're not to big. Try it, you'll
    like it.
	    
    RAYJ

    P.S. In case you can't tell, the worm is *one* of my favorite lures.
    However, my favorite lure is the one that's catching the most fish
    in the least amount of time. 
20.18a "new" technique??AIMHI::TOMASJoeMon Jun 08 1987 09:0011
    Hey, Ray...I hear that you're always "accidentally" casting over
    tree branches...
    
    Re: topwater plugs...
    
    Friday nite I went out and picked up 4 bass, two (1.5-2 lbers) on
    worms and two on my favorite topwater plug, a Crazy Crawler.  The
    largest was about 3.5-4 lbs.  Lots of fun when a larger fish explodes
    from the depths to inhale a topwater plug!
    
    -Hj-
20.19DIRT LPPSWEFXEM::METIVIERFri Jan 22 1988 16:341
    
20.20HOW WE FORGETOTOO01::ROUTHIERFri Feb 12 1988 09:4810
    YOU ARE NOT THE ONLY PERSON TO FACE THAT PROBLEM. FOR YEARS I WOULD
    USE WHAT WAS HOT AND IF IT DID NOT CATCH FISH THEN THERE WERE NO
    FISH TO BE CAUGHT. WRONG! YOU NEED TO CHANGE YOU BATE OR PRESENTATION
    OFTEN UNTILL YOU FIND WHAT WORKS THAT DAY OR FOR THAT MATTER THAT
    HOUR. IF YOU WATCH THE PRO'S THEY HAVE ALL THEIR ROD'S TIPED WITH
    DIFFERENT BATES SO THEY DON'T SPEND TIME CHANGING BUT CAN JUST PICK
    UP A DIFFERENT ROD WITH A DIFFERENT BATE. REMEMBER YOU CAN'T FORCE
    FEED A FISH IF THEY DON'T LIKE WHAT YOU HAVE THEY WON'T BITE. IF
    YOU ARE LIKE ME YOU HAVE A BOX FULL OF SPINNERS, RUBBER ECT. TRY
    SOMTHING DIFFERENT IT JUST MIGHT WORK.
20.21A GOOD LURE TO TRYTEMPE1::KILDUFFSat Apr 16 1988 16:1010
    I FOUND THAT THE MOST PRODUCTIVE HARD BODY LURE I HAVE EVER USED
    IS MADE BY REBEL. IT IS A DOUBLE DEEP DIVER, BLACK ON TOP, CHROME
    ON THE SIDES, ORANGE AND WHITE ON BOTTOM. I HAVE FISHED THE LAKES
    OF ARIZONA FOR SEVERAL YEARS WITH ALL KINDS OF BAITS ARTIFICAL AND
    LIVE. BUT IT NEVER FAILS WHEN I CAN NOT GET A BITE ON PLASTIC WORMS
    OR JIGS I PUT "OLD FAITHFUL" ON AND BAM ANOUTHER ONE BITE'S THE
    BAIT.      
                                            KEEPING THE SPORT ALIVE!
                                                   P.J KILDUFF
    
20.22JAWS::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardMon Apr 18 1988 19:3311
    
    Hey ARIZONA.....stay with us, I don't think we have an ARIZONAITE
    in the file..
    
    Where do you fish and when etc?
    
    SAN CARLOS is my favorite.
    
    TBDW (originally fron PHX...I miss it)
    
    
20.23ARIZONA FISHERMANWALLAC::MCCLUSKEYthe King of KleanTue May 24 1988 16:066
    TBDW,
    I AM ALSO AN AVID ARIZONA FISHERMAN WHO READS THIS NOTES FILE ALL
    THE TIME. JUST FOR YOUR INFO A 14LB 6OZ LARGEMOUTH WAS CAUGHT AT
    LAKE PLEASANT THE OTHER DAY.....NOW THAT'S A BUCKETMOUTH....
    
    PAT MCCLUSKEY
20.24Best YetKDCA01::CDCUP_BOURGETue Jul 26 1988 15:4912
    Howdy,
    About the best lure I've used in the last four years for Bass is
    a plain white spinnerbait with a silver blade.  The quarter ounce
    size is the most universal for all sizes of fish.  Fish it fast,
    slow or anywhere in between, depending on what the fish want on
    a particular day.  Also I've found that a piece of white porkrind
    trailing behind will turn the followers into strikers.  Sometimes
    we run this lure quite fast just under the surface so that the blade
    makes the water bulge but doesn't break through the surface.  For
    Smallmouth, I use the same bait but in the 3/16 oz. size.  If you
    aren't catchin' your share of bass, be sure to give this deadly
    lure a workout.
20.25re.-1MOSAIC::MACINTYREFish are rising up like birdsWed Jul 27 1988 11:027
    You and Keith "give_me_a_white_spinnerbait_or_give_me_death" Dilsworth
    should get along real well... 8^)
 
    Seriously though, I'd have to agree (as Keith's club standings will
    testify)...
    
    donmac
20.26VAX4::TOMASJoeWed Jul 27 1988 12:0721
I guess it's all a matter of what you have confidence in.  THAT, more than 
anything else, is what creates success .... CONFIDENCE!

Although I have caught bass on spinnerbaits, the majority of my bassing and
success has come from using worms... and of course, my all-time topwater 
favorite, the Crazy Crawler for nightime bassin.

However, I also think that regardless of what you find to work for you, that 
you should also experiment and learn other techniques and methods that are 
proven.  This will help to make you a much better all-around fisherman
(er.. fisher-person?) and may utlimately pay off, especially during a 
tourney when the bass have lock-jaw.

One thing I don't do is experiment during a tourney.  Although I may realize 
that under a given set of conditions, another method may be more productive.
But if I don't have experience catching fish or the confidence that that 
method will work for me, I don't use it!  

To each, his own...

-HSJ-
20.27Bossin' ItKDCA03::CDCUP_BOUCHEMon Aug 22 1988 14:2211
    Howdy again,
    
    	Just thought I'd mention my all time favorite surface bait for
    bass in the weeds is a Heddon, Moss Boss.  These things are just
    plain sleazy.  They will come through stuff that other baits couldn't
    come close to without getting all gunked up.  The neatest part about
    this baby is it is weedless with having to resort to a weedguard.
     It is all in the design of the body and how it flys through the
    air and lands nface up.  Try it.  You won't be disappointed.
    Basser Bourgeois
    
20.28Weed WalkerCASV05::PRESTONNO Dukes!!Mon Aug 22 1988 16:004
    How do these compare with Bill Norman's "Weed Walker"? I've tried
    one, but not long enough to decide how good it is.
    
    Ed
20.29Moss BossKDCA01::CDCUP_BOURGEMETALS_MANWed Sep 07 1988 13:3014
    Re.28
    
    	The Weed Walker is a real good surface bait, my wife uses it
    all the time.  The Moss Boss is a quiet bait whereas the Norman
    lure has a built in prop that creates a splashing, gurgling noise.
     Sometimes the bass want a noisier lure but most times the Boss
    will outfish it.  Also, there is just no comparison when it comes
    to weedlessness.  The Boss is the most weedless bait I own and I
    must have thirty or so "weedless" type lures.  There was quite a
    writeup recently in the In-Fisherman on fishing thick weeds and
    the 'ol Boss was right in there.
    
    Happy Bossin'
    
20.30HAWKIE SPINRONALD::OUELLETTETue Jun 13 1989 13:1616
    
    I bought and used for the first time this weekend a different kind
    of spinnerbait that gave me incredible luck. HAWKIE SPIN 
    I pulled 6 Largemouths out of Naukeg Res Sunday afternoon, all in
    the 4lb range. I never had as much luck on regular skirted spinners.
    These have 3 inch twisttailed grubs on them. The body is black and
    the tail is lime green. Also caught a slu of Smallies all in the
    1lb range. This was the only lure I had these kind of results on
    in this Res. It has a very atractive action to it, and seem to drive
    Bass wild. I can't wait to find out if it has the same results in
    other waters I fish.
    
    BTW: You must be a Ashburnham resident with a permit to fish this Res.
         And no Motors aloud. Sorry!!!
    
                                                Bill
20.31Hmmmmm?CASV01::PRESTONWhat makes the Hottentots so hot?Tue Jun 13 1989 15:432
    Yes, and where might one purchase one of these little beauties?
    
20.32Match-the-hatch ???VICKI::DODIERWed Jun 14 1989 09:2112
    	Just a thought but I've been on certain places that seem to
    have a hot lure. 
    
    	A for instance was the Manchester Sand and Gravel pit. A gold
    colored shad rap was 3 times more effective than a silver one. Probably
    due to the place having golden shiners. Most other places I fished
    the silver has been more productive. On Greenwood Lake the green
    snatrix was a killer but they didn't want the black one. On
    Pawtuckaway, it was the opposite. Guess it's probably the old match-
    the-hatch syndrome.
    
    	RAYJ
20.33HANKIE not HAWKIERONALD::OUELLETTEThu Jun 15 1989 12:4215
    
    Correction!!!!...The name was HANKIE not HAWKIE.
    I baught these a JAKE's SPORTING GOODS IN FITCHBURG..
    I really beleive that the limegreen tail is what getting them.
    The grub moves with a Polliwag[sp] effect. The water is so clear
    with lots of rocks, lillypads and overhanging trees and bushes.
    I've noticed small limegreen slimmy globs floating around. Not
    sure if its somekind of eggs or weeds. But the color of the grub
    with the overhead spinner looks very natural in this water. 
    I could see almost ever hit as far out as 50feet!!
    
                                                Bill
                                                
                                                
                                                
20.34DANCING EEL...RONALD::OUELLETTEThu Jun 15 1989 13:475
    Has anyone had any good luck with Bill Dance's DANCING EEL?
    I always wanted to try this one. Does anyone know where this can
    be baught? I have never seen them around.[MASS]
    
                                              Bill
20.35Cheap at Merrimack,N.H. Zyla'sVICKI::DODIERFri Jun 16 1989 08:338
    	I saw Dance's eel on the Zyla's bargain table last week for
    I believe $2. This is a significant price cut from the $5+ it started
    at when it first came out. 
    
    	I haven't tried one so I can't tell you how good it works.
    
    	RAYJ
    
20.36RONALD::OUELLETTEFri Jun 16 1989 12:143
    
    
    Thats," how WELL it works!"
20.37leave 'emCASV01::PRESTONWhat makes the Hottentots so hot?Fri Jun 16 1989 12:477
    A guy at the facility here tried one some time ago, and had no luck
    whatsoever... also, those dancin' eels have to be stored flat, else
    they get a curve to them that ruins their action (says so right
    on the box).
    
    Ed
    
20.38$5 ...... $211SRUS::LUCIAHe's dead, JimFri Jun 16 1989 13:296
    Well I think we have established why they went for $5+ and are now
    available for $2.  Save yourself the $2 and buy some worms/grubs/jigs
    instead.  The Dance's eel catches fisherpeople, not fish
    
    Tim.
    
20.39Avoid at ALL costsSA1794::CUZZONESMine came with a tatoo!Wed Jun 21 1989 14:3811
    My personal experience with Dance's Eel has been that neither one
    (full size in purple and "elver" size in black) that I bought caught
    a fish in the 3-4 times I tried them.  I can let you have them to
    try yourself if you'd like to pick them up here in SPO.  Of course,
    I didn't store them flat and they have a permanent kink in their
    tails.
    
    -SSS-
    
    Stay away from the bargain bin entirely ... full or half price,
    your generally looking at lures that haven't sold for good reason.
20.40Let the buyer beware...CASV05::PRESTONWhat makes the Hottentots so hot?Wed Jun 21 1989 18:219
    Well, I say take that advice to heart while looking at the bargain
    table. You should *know* what kind of lures are good and which to
    be suspicious of. I found a few pretty good lures at the bargain
    table at J&R Discount in Nahua, but for each one of them there were
    at least a dozen dogs. Watch out for weird colors, weird shapes,
    and weird brands...
    
    Ed
    
20.41Don't be to quick to write off bargain tablesVICKI::DODIERThu Jun 22 1989 09:1111
    	I have on occasion come across some REAL bargains at these
    tables. As was meantioned earlier, you should have some idea about
    the lure first.
    	
    	I bought an imitation stick bait (Zara spook) for $1. Other
    than having to sharpen the hooks I'm reasonably sure it will work
    as well as it's $4-$5 counterpart. After all, how much natural action
    does a stick bait have. I have also seen � oz. bucktails for $.50 each
    and large hoochi-trolls for $2.
    
    	RAYJ
20.42At 3 for $5, you can't go wrong...BTOVT::MORONGThu Jun 22 1989 09:3311
      I have to agree with not writing off the bargain tables too
    quickly. At the local Woolworths you can get some real good buys 
    on some excellant lures. They have their 3 for $5 table, and most
    of the time the stuff isn't worth considering, but othe times I
    have gotten some real nice buys on good quality lures (mostly
    crank-baits). It is not unusual to go in their and find a table 
    full of Rebel or Cotton Cordell lures. I have bought lures there
    at 3 for $5 that I spent $4-$5 a piece for in Bass Pro. And I'm
    talking lures that I know catch fish.
    
    -Ron-
20.43Did you say Hoochies.....LEVERS::SWEETCapt. Codfish...GW Fishing TeamThu Jun 22 1989 09:565
    Yo RayJ,
    
      Where are those Hoochies? I want em for blues.
    
    Capt. Codfish
20.44Get te cheep ones too!MURPHY::WIERSUMThe Back Deck WizardThu Jun 22 1989 14:5010
    
    I agree with RAYJ and Ron......A bargain is almost always better
    than getting what you really want.
    
    re: "wierd colors and shapes"  Grab em up and try em...(especially
    if it's cheep) you nevver know what that dam fish is gonna get excited 
    about.

    TBDW