Conference wahoo::fishing

	The name of the pond is Gumpus (sp.). The unfortunate thing is
	that the access that we used to use has since been posted. Bob
	Perron has found out that there "USED" to be a public access
	but has not been used for years and has been built on..! There
	is one person that lives on the pond that will let you launch
	from his property as long as you "ASK FIRST" and do not abuse
	the privilege. It is unfortunate that there is no public access
	to the pond as it is a good place to pick up some bass.

	Does anyone know what the laws are concerning public access to
	waters in N.H. In particular in respects to if they are not used
	for a number of years that they are no longer considered a
	public access.


	-GJK

Any questions about laws, dates,seasons,etc., can be easily
answered by the N.H. Fish and Game Dep't.  In fact they
set up a toll-free number for just that purpose (may only
be toll-free in N.H. though.)

1-800-332-5018 is the number.

adios,

Dave Vedder

DOES ANYONE KNOW WHICH CAMP ON GUMPAS POND WILL ALLOW ACCESS TO LAUNCH A CANOE?
I'M LOOKING FOR THE DESCRIPTION OF THE CAMP SO I CAN GIVE GUMPAS A TRY.
I'VE HEARD EXCELLENT REPORTS OF 3-6 LB BASS TAKEN OUT OF THERE.


REGARDS
MJT

 	Can you give more more info on Umbagog? Did you have any
	luck fishing there? What was the price of the island?
	Directions?

	Gene

GENE,

Umbagog is a good place to get away from it all but I found the fishing slow
the later part of july.  We mostly paddled around the lake to check it out.
There was a bog area by the river on the north west side looked like it might
be good bassin but that day was windy as all heck and couldn't fish it.  The
owner of Umbagog Lake Camps told me that there are huge lake trout on the
north east side by the dam, but they are deep during the summer months.  We
did notice a lot of rises when the water was calm but I tried everything
you can think of and wouldn't even get a hit.  This was about 3 years ago
that I went there and it cost me $7.00 per night to get the island which was
about a half acre.  The only thing on the island is a 55 gal drum for a toilet
with a toilet seat and it was in a cove.  Oh by the way, there was good pout
fishing in the back side of the cove at night.  If you don't want to paddle
to your sight which could be as far as 3-8 miles, you can pay the owner $10.00
or so to bring you and all the gear you can fit including canoe to the site
and pick you up at a time you arrainge for departure.  We found all kinds
of natural beaches for swimming any way you want even during daylight because
there are so few people around.  The owner is a former ranger and treats his
guest with a lot of respect such as " this is your site and you do what you 
want.  Just don't litter and make big fires."




anything else?
MEL

	How do you get there? Do you have a phone number or the
	actual name of the place?

	Thanks again
	Gene

	Gene, Umbagog can be reached by taking route 16 from N.Conway 
all the way to Umbagog.  The name of the place is Umbagog lake Camps
which is run by an ex ranger, Jim Willard and his family.  It is 
located in Errol N.H. and borders both N.H. AND Maine.  Either 
fishing license is good.  You will follow the ANDROSCOGGIN RIVER as
you get closer to Errol.  There is great fishing in this river which
contains Salmon and Brown Trout with miles of road access.  I suggest
you call 603-482-7795 and ask Jim for more details seeing how it's
been a while since i've been there.  Oh by the way, the lake is 
14 miles long and camp sites are anywhere from 1/2 mile to 10+1/2 miles
out.  You have to specify that you want a island site.  I suggest
that you try the one about 6 miles out that sits in a cove, its half
way out and we thought it was great.  They seemed to refer to it as the 
honey moon suite.  Ask Jim to send you a brochure, it has a map of 
about a 10-20 mile range of that area.


GOOD LUCK, YOU'LL ENJOY IT!
MEL

    Erik,
    
    Is Gene you? I want to go too! Take me to the river.....drop me
    in the water......Talking Heads! Lets take a day off next week or
    even a half day ok? Let me know. 
    
                                  Later,
                                  Your Buddy
    
    P.S. I want that picture back!!!!! It had a lot of sentimantal value!
         Do you know how many times I told that story???!!!!!!

    wow, june `85 - may `87, that's some s_l_o_w conversation!8^)
                                               

    Sometimes you've got to wonder; why do I put up with this frustration?
    Saturday I went fishing at a dinky little pond in Hudson. This place
    is so small, it doesn't even have a name. Well, the reason I was
    fishing there was because I have seen some fairly large fish in
    the water, mostly over the beds, and it's rumoured to have given
    up bass in excess of seven pounds.
    
     I was having very little luck. In over two hours, I had gone through
    half the lures in my tackle box, and didn't even have a strike.
    Then I put on a huge crazy-crawler, more out of frustration than
    anything else. There was a tree that had fallen down into the water
    on the other side of the pond, so I started casting to it, figuring
    that it must shelter some large bass. You guessed it, after about
    ten casts, I put too much mustard on it and it landed in the tree.
    I quickly realized that my grandfathers lure wasn't coming out,
    and I had better shag it around the pond and get the lure out of
    the tree. The tree was hanging out completely over the water, but
    was still alive. I inched my way out to the very end, where my lure
    was. After I freed the lure, I lokked in the water. There was a
    cloud of baby fish (my guess is bass) lurking under the tree. AND
    there was momma, who appeared to be about five pounds. She was not
    happy about me shaking the tree.
    
     I ran back around the pond to retreive my pole. Putting on a rubber
    worm, I figured I could coax/annoy momma into striking. No luck.
    Then it started to rain. I started to make my way back to shore
    over the tree. And it was alot easier to maneuver when I didn't
    have my pole to worry about. About half way in, the rain subsided.
    I decided to cast from my new position. Balancing on the tree trunk,
    I lobbed the worm about twenty feet into the pond. Something bit,
    and I set the hook. I pulled in about a two pounder to my perch
    (pun intended) on the tree. I threw it back, and my wife showed
    up to see how I was doing. I went back to my previous position at
    the end of the tree, in a last ditch effort to catch the big one
    to show wifey.
    
     I was jigging the worm just off the end of the tree when I snagged
    a branch. Except it wasn't a branch. It was momma. As soon as I
    saw her coming up with the worm in her mouth I set the hook again,
    harder. Too hard. I broke the %^&*#&$ line. Frustration wins again.
    
    The doctah (whos_going_to_get_that_fish_if_it_takes_dynamite)

    Yes folks, you too can have *fun* fishing!

    I went fishing at my little pond in Hudson, NH last night. The fishing
    was pretty good. I caught about a half dozen bass in an hour and
    a half. Most were caught on a rubber worm with a curly tail. One
    of the fish ate the curly tail off the worm! I go through alot of
    worms that way. The biggest one was close to 4 lbs. I knew he was
    going to be the biggest, because he took the longest to come out
    of the water. He soaked me on that jump.
    
     That fish wasn't the most memorable of the day, however. It was
    the smallest fish I caught. One of my first few casts went over
    an overhanging branch. I was using a tiny torpedo at the time. I
    reeled in the lure until it was just under the branch. I then picked
    it up about 6-8 inches out of the water, and began rocking it back
    and forth prior to "the big attempt" to pull it over the branch.
    I never got a chance to do this as a small bass jumped out of the
    water and intercepted the lure before I could swing it over the
    branch. I was dumbfounded. When I got the little bugger in and tried
    to remove the hook, he shook his head at the wrong time, and I had
    2 of the three hooks on the belly treble in my finger. I let out
    a whoop and holler and sort of flung the fish into the air. So much
    for cool headedness. The people across the pond seemed to be genuinely
    amused. Now it hurts to type :-)
    
     The Doctah 

    When I went fishing at Robinson's last night, a strange thing happened.
    I had caught my worm on a submerged branch, and was unable to free
    it. I decided to simply break the line, and retie. Unfortunately,
    I used my rod to break the line, instead of grabbing the line with
    my hands to break it. The end result was as the line broke, the
    force of the rod returning to normal catapulted my rod tip off the
    rod, over my head, and into parts unkown! What a bummer.
    
     The good part is that Jim (a recent move down from Maine) had long
    pants on. He trudged through the surrounding vegetation and actually
    found my tip intact. Thank God!
    
    The Doctah
    
    PS- DR Juice bass scent made all the difference last night. All
    of the bass were caught within 5 minutes of applying it to a rubber
    worm or jig. We went fishless before applying it.

    Dr Juice, eh?..  SOLD AMERICAN! (or South African or whatever)
    
    Have you ever tried FS454? Is there a comparison?
    
    Ed
    
    

    Never tried fs454. Dr Juice is good stuff though. I definitely
    recommend it. A distinct difference between with/without. I just
    typed in a long reply but MSEE:: screwed me and I'm tired of typing.
    Summary: I noticed a big difference.
    
    The Doctah
    

    Southern (I mean SOUTHERN) NH is my neck of the woods.  There are
    a couple of good ponds/lakes right along Rt. 111.  Big Island Pond
    (also known as Governors Pond).  Kingston Lake (Great Pond), Powwow
    Pond and River (not exactly on 111).  
    
    I've been fishing Island pond recently since thats all I can easily
    reach after work,  this year there seem to be NO fish,  every once
    in a while I catch a fish.  (about 1 per trip).  Since my buddy
    and I are doing so bad, we tried an experiment;
    
    	The first day we each used a rubber worm, he used Dr. Juice
    and I went plain,  we both casted in the same area.  That day he
    caught our fish.
    
    	The next time we went back and I used Fish formula II and he
    used Berkely Strike for Bass,  I caught the fish.  Next experiment,
    Fish formula II vs. Dr. Juice.
    
    Is anyone else having trouble getting the fish to bite, this lake
    used to really produce, now it's as barren as a desert.
    
    Any tips.
    
    Dave

    I went fishing yesterday at Pawtuckaway lake. It was terrible fishing.
    A couple of locals in a canoe said they had not caught a bass in
    the last two weeks. (They lived about 1/4 south of the bay of funday)
    They said during the winter that the lake was down (by the state
    they assumed) where you could walk accross the northern end of the
    lake including the Bay and really screwed up the bass fishing. Any
    truth to this? We caught two short bass well out of Fundy Bay and
    washed most of our harware doing it.

Many of the larger lakes in NH are drawn down every winter. The Union
Leader usually publishes the list in the fall, which includes the amount
of drawdown for each lake. I think the amount varies from 4' to as much
as 12'. For the past two years Pawtuckaway has been essentially emptied,
going down what they called 12'. All that's been left is the old stream
beds and the hole about 1/2 mile southerly of the twin islands.

Kind of sad, when you consider that my fishing buddy has an 8-1/4 pounder
on his wall from that lake. And I've seen two other 8# + hawgs come from
there over the years.

The usual reason that is published is "to repair dams."

Art

p.s. Bumper sticker seen yesterday: 

        WORK IS FOR PEOPLE WHO DON'T KNOW HOW TO FISH

Hey, Lavender!

Fletcher and I hit Pawtuckaway last Friday, 2 PM to about 10 PM and we 
picked up about 15 lm bass.  Most were 1-1.5 lbs, but Chris did get a 3.5 
lber after dark on a topwater lure.

I've seen lots of "perch jerkers" out on Pawtuckaway that claim to be bass 
fishing.  Judging from their tackle and techniques, it's no wonder all they 
get is pickeral, perch and kivvers!  So don't pay too much attention to 
them.  There's plenty of 5 lb PLUS fish in there.

Althought the lake is drawn down every year, there's still plenty of depth 
and area after the drawdown to support the fish.  Max depth is about 45'.

-HSJ-