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459.1 | What kind of "fishery" went away? | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Fri Jul 28 1995 18:24 | 13 |
| Shrimp invasion?
There's only one species of freshwater shrimp in North America, as far
as I know, and Moosehead is certainly within its range. The perch would
probably refer to Yellow Perch, which has a habit of overpowering some
sensitive northern species. I'd be inclined to blame the smallmouth
bass overpopulation before I blamed the yellow perch in a lake like
moosehead (i.e., deep, oligotrophic, with an extremely short growing
season).
FWIW
John H-C
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459.2 | | WAHOO::LEVESQUE | contents under pressure | Mon Jul 31 1995 08:47 | 1 |
| I'd bet they were talking about white perch.
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459.3 | I was there a couple weeks ago... | SUBPAC::CRONIN | | Mon Jul 31 1995 10:28 | 18 |
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Moosehead has Yellow Perch, like so many of the other lakes
in that area. If anyone can tell me where I can find Smallmouth
Bass in that lake, -please- do!!
The folks I talked to up there said the solutions that they're
talking about are stocking of Smelt to supplement those that are
already there, and trying to figure out if anything can be done
about the scarcity of various microorganizms that the Smelt feed
on. They're also trying to get the Fisheries Dept. to adopt a
more aggressive stocking campaign.
I have that paper at home too, just haven't pulled it out of
the other Moosehead stuff to read it yet. Isn't it about 3 pages
and put out by the Moosehead Fisheries Coalition or something like
that? I'll see if I can find it....
B.C.
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459.4 | The Lake is a Mess........ | MSBCS::MERCIER | | Mon Jul 31 1995 11:46 | 31 |
| Moosehead is a mess!!! In fact, I was speaking with a realestate broker
last week and it appears the Govenor sent a comission up to see what
the complaints were about. There wasn't fisherman to be seen. The
bottom has fallen out and they have lost a huge income base.
It is Yellow Perch and Shrimp which is what they are trying to blame.
The real problem is lack of baitfish. They still can't get it through
their thickheads that you cannot sustain a fish population on Mosquitos
alone. They have stocked thousands of fish (landlocked salmon) which
will not grow and cannot grow because of lack of protein. They now have
a problem with the Lakers in that they are requesting you keep them
because their population has taken off while feeding on these shrimp.
These shrimp do not contain the nutrients needed to grow large but do
allow them to survive. Hence, an overpopulation of stunted lakers....
Another problem is that people are trying to play Enviromentalists on
their own by introducing Smallmouth Bass, White Perch, Rainbow Trout to
make up for the lack of fish. All these fish are natural predators of
the Brook trout and will eliminate any naturally reoccuring base of
Brookies left. Their are some Brookies left that have not come out of
a concrete pond and to lose those genes would be a great loss.......
They could have a Junior Lake Ontario if they could get thier act to-
gether but they just don't understand basic food chain's. Even
overcrowed Lake Winnepesaukee finally caught on to the baitfish
relation and are now producing 6 to 7 pound Landlock's. This was done
through their Smelt Retoration program. Smelt, which in fact, came from
Lake Ontario.......
FWIW (some facts maybe mistated but the basics are there)
Bob M�
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459.5 | white perch? | SMURF::PETERBAKER | | Mon Jul 31 1995 12:27 | 13 |
| 459.3: Yes, a short note and a signup (and send $$) form to join
the group...
I had read a few years ago that some guys were caught pumping white
perch into the lake and thought it might be white perch causing the
problem.
459.4: I thought the Winni problem was too many salmon for the
forage fish; the cure to cut back on the number of stocked
fish.
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459.6 | I think were both right ;^) | MSBCS::MERCIER | | Mon Jul 31 1995 13:03 | 19 |
| .5 It was a combination of both. Not enough baitfish and too many
stocked fish. Their original approach was the restoration of the
baitfish while maintaining the stocking program. They then realized
that those babies (salmon) could eat and the current baitfish
population could not maintain the sustained stocking program. So they
met in the middle.
I believe Lake Ontario is now faced with a similiar situation. Lee
knows more about than I do. But it appears with the introduction of
Zebra Mussels the baitfish have lost their forage base in the
ecosystem. They are no longer growing to the sizes they once were or
the numbers. Hence, something has to give and I believe that the King
Salmon and certain other fish are now going to be reduced so as to not
destroy the baitfish pop.
Maybe they will have to start raising plankton and then work their way
up........
Bob M�
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459.7 | While we're bashing it... | SUBPAC::CRONIN | | Mon Jul 31 1995 14:51 | 16 |
|
I just thought that while we're all picking on the lake that
it should also be mentioned that most of the criticizm is relating
to the way the fishing used to be at Moosehead, not as compared to
other lakes. At least for me it is. I was there from the 16th to
the 22nd of July. Not exactly prime Trout season up there. Even
with my limited knowledge/equipment for this type of fishing I was
able to find and catch Lake Trout. All I caught were small ones,
16 in. or so, but I did have a couple quality fish on. It's pretty
easy to tell a larger fish when you're vertical jigging with a stiff
rod and braided poly line!
And let's not forget that in the Northeast nothing can beat
Moosehead as far as being a beautiful lake! I'd still go there
for a fishing vacation.
B.C.
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459.8 | would be a great destination | SMURF::PETERBAKER | | Mon Jul 31 1995 17:24 | 2 |
| ??bashing?? I thought the lake was stunning. Maybe they will get
it fixed right...whatever that is.
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