Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

I believe that most of the charter boats captains get this surface temp chart.
I read something recently that you can download it from a BB service (DR.????)
for $30+.

If you could find someone who gets the chart maybe they would be willing to split the
cost.  Or better yet a few dividing up the cost?

I would bet that the commercial guys share the info and cost?

It's worth a try all they can say is no

Gordon

    NOAA has temp charts available via FAX for $1.50 per minute. I don't
    have their address handy but I'll try to remember to enter it from
    home.
    Regards,
    Paul 

    I have found one  on the net. The problem is the resolution and the
    number of times a week that it's upgraded. I think there are better
    ones out there. Roffers must get there's from somewhere in the NOAA 
    database, which you can access also. 
    
    Here's some pointers:
    
    http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/    NOAA Home Page
    
    http://metolab3.umd.edu/earthcast/earthcast.html Maryland Earthcast
    
    
    Maryland earthcast has some really neat stuff! Try there first to grab
    there latest surface temp map.
    
    Let us know how you make out.
    
    Marty

The NOAA supports this home page:
	Interactive Marine Observations
at:
	http://thunder.met.fsu.edu/~nws/buoy/

Supposed to be real-time data from CMAN bouys, etc.

Good luck,
Peter.

    Does anyone know if these are available for the Great Lakes (Ontario)?
    If so, where do you get them?
    
    The ESLO Derby is the first weekend in May, and a surface temp chart
    could save me a whole bunch of time (and fuel)!!!!
    
    Don

    I checked out the WWW info given in .4, and it was good data. It
    matched my own records for local water temps. (Hey, getting them over
    the web is quite a bit easier than getting into the water, which is how
    I usually get the temperature. <g>)
    
    Anyway, the information choices included the Great Lakes.
    
    John H-C

    I was about to ask the same question. I'll be up there the whole week
    while entered in the International. I got try this one out! The bubble
    should stand out quite noticably. I'm also quite interested in checking
    out an area, which for no known reason to me, attracted a large number
    of Browns and Rainbows. Very large ones in fact!!!
    
    Thanks
    Bob M�

    Does anyone have data or estimates as to water temps at various depths
    relative to surface temps. I'm sure there are many variables such as
    current, wave action, sun intensity etc., but any ball park numbers
    would be better then none. Also, what are the ideal temperatures for
    various fresh and saltwater species.
    
    Lets take Tuna for a start. If Bluefin are known to feed frequently at
    a depth of 60 ft over bumps that come up to 200 ft or less in the gulf
    of Maine, and their ideal temp is xx (lets say 56 just for kicks), and
    the water temp drops an average of 2 degrees for each 10 ft of depth
    then we'd want to look for a surface temp of 68 degrees, over the right
    sructure to pinpoint the best hotspots...Simple, right!

    The thermocline is not at any one depth at any particular time, but
    between thermoclines, the temperature is basically steady, with
    possibly a one or two degree difference in various depths in a
    particular area. (It might be 45 at 80 feet, 43 at 45 feet, and 45 at
    35 feet.) 
    The thermocline shift is generally about 10 degrees during the months
    when folks hunt tuna, and it's generally at about 50 feet and recurs
    at about 90-110.
    These days, in the spring of 1995 near shore, the first thermocline is
    shifting between 10 and 20 feet.
    
    FWIW
    
    John H-C (who saw a *thick* thermocline at 12 feet last week)

	   You'd have to also know bottom contours and tide directions.
	A hump with the tide running over it will cause an upwelling above
	and to one side.  When the tide reverses you'll get it on the other
	side.  Canyons and ledges may only cause an upwelling on one tide
	direction.

	   Info that I've gotten from some of the temp chart folks in the
	past included forms to sign agreeing -not- to share the info.

					B.C.

    Is anyone else having a hard time accessing this file? I keep getting
    denied the Great Lakes area. Also, is there anywhere on the net where
    I could possibly access depth charts of certain areas on the lake.
    
    Just wondering.
    Bob M�

I also have had trouble accessing the surface temp charts from noaa.  I got into 
the buoy data center HTTP:/SEABOARD.NDBC.NOAA.GOV/  and thought I was getting the
data but all I got was access denied.  I have only tried a couple of times and
each time have got a little further.  Maybe it just takes persistance or the correct
keyword.

If anyone else got in let us knon the trick.

Thanks,
Gordon