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417.1 | More data? | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Tue Dec 06 1994 11:39 | 11 |
| Did the article go into more detail than that?
Did it suggest that the advisory was for fish found in certain types of
waterways or even specific waterways?
I'd also be curious about whether there were any mention of the kind of
fish tested. Were mussels evaluated as well?
Thanks.
John H-C
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417.2 | | XCUSME::TOMAS | I hate stiff water | Tue Dec 06 1994 14:50 | 7 |
| The article was pretty vague. It only stated "inland waters" but did not
specify which ones were tested nor which species were affected.
It's a real sad note that NH ain't as clean as it used to be, but then
again, what place is?!?
-Joe-
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417.3 | | DELNI::OTA | | Tue Dec 06 1994 14:54 | 5 |
| Yah Joe, they have had that sign on the Wachusetts reseviour in Mass
for a couple of years now, the scary thing is that this is a water
supply for much of boston.
Oats
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417.4 | the water's okay it's the fish that's bad | TAMDNO::WHITMAN | I'm the NRA and I vote | Tue Dec 06 1994 16:50 | 14 |
| < Yah Joe, they have had that sign on the Wachusetts reseviour in Mass
< for a couple of years now, the scary thing is that this is a water
< supply for much of boston.
The theory is that the heavy metals are not in solution, but rather settle
to the bottom, get absorbed into the plant material at the bottom of the food
chain, little fish eat the plants, big fish eat little fish etc. So the water
is not contaminated, but the vegetation and fish are. Of course isn't mercury
poisoning supposed to make you muddle-headed (i.e. the Mad-Hatter)? Maybe that
explains Beacon Hill is so screwed up. It's the water inside Rt 128;-);-);-)
Al
who use to be a resident of the PRM (People's Republic of Massachusetts)
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417.5 | | ECADSR::BIRO | | Wed Dec 07 1994 12:08 | 2 |
| Folks on beacon hill dont drink water...
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417.6 | Ahhhh Cutty ana splash | TAMDNO::WHITMAN | I'm the NRA and I vote | Wed Dec 07 1994 14:42 | 9 |
| < Folks on beacon hill dont drink water...
At least not until the ice-cubes melt in the "rocks" glass...
OR
you count the slush in the Margureita
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417.7 | | XCUSME::TOMAS | I hate stiff water | Wed Dec 07 1994 16:20 | 6 |
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No... but that certainly is a good reason for the Legend's behavior.
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417.8 | Point the finger | BIRDIE::ORLOWSKI | | Thu Dec 08 1994 06:54 | 14 |
| ...might be a dumb question but How does the Mercury get in the water??
It can't be blamed on Acid Rain,,,Global Warming,,,or split-shot
sinkers.....and only rivers have had factories dumping waste in them
for years so how does it get in Lakes.??
Would a good guess say it's in the ground from past dumpings and is
making its way into streams which dump into lakes.?? But if that were
the case,,,all our well water would also have Mercury in it also..??
MAybe we can get our deep pocket goverment to spend $5 billion on
a research program after they print some more money....
-Sorry but mad
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417.9 | Anybody called the source yet? | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Thu Dec 08 1994 10:52 | 9 |
| Has anybody called NH Inland Fish & Game to get more information on
this yet?
It's unusual for a statewide warning on mercury contamination
on all fish in all freshwater systems to be issued by an agency
that derives its revenues from the activity such a warning would
clearly curtail.
John H-C
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417.10 | See note 70.67 for possible sources of mercury. | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Thu Dec 08 1994 10:56 | 1 |
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417.11 | | AIMHI::BEAUCHESNE | | Thu Dec 08 1994 11:47 | 8 |
| In addition to the Sunday News article, there was a follow-up in the
M.U.L. on Tuesday I believe. I didn't read it, but the headline seemed
to imply that this shouldn't be blown out of proportion. I'll try to
dig up both articles and post. The Sunday paper did list the areas
tested, which included Horseshoe Pond and Stumpfield. [Hmmm, you might
have something here with the LEGEND connection.]
Moe
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417.12 | More on Mercury in fish | MILKWY::LWANG | | Thu Dec 08 1994 15:48 | 18 |
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Hi Folks,
I saw news on Mercury in NH fresh water fish on fox two days ago. I fish
and eat N.Y.lake Ontario fish for over 5 years. They did a study up
there and found Mercury in their fish as well but it is in the grey
meat area. A proper filet job will yield perfectly good meat which
meets the government standard. In fact, lake Mich steelhead and salmon
are sold in supermarket or fish stores. All great lake are connected.
So, it does not make sense why N.Y fish can not commercialized. But,
it is good for fisherman that N.Y state only keep Lake Ontario fish as game
fish. Ten years ago, lake Ontario was one of the most dirty fresh body
of water around the northeast. Today, clean-up effort has helped to
bring the water quality up.
I believe you better off eat fish than red meat. Because, you probably
will leave longer by eating fish with Mercury in them than eating red
meat and have a heart-attack.
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417.13 | _Boston Globe_ 5/28/95 | OFOSS1::JOHNHC | | Tue May 30 1995 13:59 | 11 |
| There was an article in this past Sunday's _Boston Globe_ "New
Hampshire Weekly" section on mercury in NH's inland waters and
environmentalists' complaints that the state bureacracy was downplaying
it by not making more of an effort to warn tourists and others who fish
casually not to eat the fish.
If there's interest, I'll rekey the sidebar, which delineates the
warnings that *have* been publicized pretty clearly.
John H-C
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417.14 | From yesterday's mail... | LEXS01::JOHNHC | | Tue Jun 18 1996 07:47 | 45 |
| From _Lakeside, A Quarterly Publication of the New Hampshire Lakes
Association_, in an article written by Robert Estabrook and Jody Conner
of the New Hampshire Department of Environmental Services Biology
Bureau:
"Recently, the NH Division of Public Health Services (DPHS) issued
an advisory for small children and women of childbearing age to limit
their consumption of of freshwater fish to not more than one meal per
month. All other people are urged to limit their consumption to no more
four meals per month."
.
.
.
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"Last year, a total of 88 fish were submitted, representing 28 lakes and
one river, consisting of 10 different species. The VLAP [Volunteer Lake
Assessment Program] data was added to the fish data collected by the
DPHS over the previous three years. Although the amount of data for any
one species is too small at this time to make any conclusive statements,
preliminary trends are evident.
o Bass tend to be high in mercury
o Trout species tend to be low
o Older, bigger fish contain higher levels of mercury (except
for yellow perch)
o Acidic, tea-colored ponds tend to contribute higher mercury
levels to fish populations (except for largemouth bass)"
Mercury Levels by Species of Fish
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High Moderate Low Very Low
LM, SM bass yellow perch salmon white perch
pickerel horned pout brown trout
lake trout rainbow trout
brook trout
FWIW
John H-C
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417.15 | wonder why? | NEWVAX::WHITMAN | gun control = 5% gun + 95% control | Tue Jun 18 1996 09:21 | 15 |
| < Mercury Levels by Species of Fish
<----------------------------------------------------------------
<High Moderate Low Very Low
<
<LM, SM bass yellow perch salmon white perch
< pickerel horned pout brown trout
< lake trout rainbow trout
< brook trout
<
Any speculations as to why this separation of mercury level? Can't be
where the fish is on the food chain as both Bass and Browns are at the top.
Might be warm/shallow/still water vs cold/deep/flowing water...
Al
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417.16 | $0.02 | LEXS01::JOHNHC | | Tue Jun 18 1996 10:48 | 6 |
| I believe that the lifespan of the fish is mostly responsible for the
differences, combined with their preferred food forms.
That, of course, is pure speculation on my part.
John H-C
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417.17 | Mercury levels in fish? | NIOSS1::BOURGAULT | | Tue Jun 18 1996 13:40 | 26 |
| One point I would like to discuss is that the fish in the med/low
levels are either cold water species or bottom feeding species. I
believe that the cold water species reside lower in the lake longer
during the year before ice in and ice out. What's puzzling is the fact
that white perch and catfish do a lot of bottom feeding and mercury is
heavy and should sink to the bottom. Do these fish have some sort of
filtering system that removes the mercury?
My other theory would be that mercury seeps into the lake from
(shorelines and the air) and these fish with high levels tend to feed
heavily in shallow water. They also tend to migrate toward incoming water
(river/stream) that may be bringing in higher levels of mercury into
the lake besides fish that inhabit them.
I also assume that a lot of the mercury in the air that lands in the
lakes, may not sink right away and the wave action moves it to shore
where it is deposited. Has there been any studies to determine the
density of mercury in different levels of the lake. Could it be that
after a certain depth mercury suspends and does not sink to the bottom?
I guess this is enough to ponder for one note.
Regards
DonB,
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417.18 | From the same article: | LEXS01::JOHNHC | | Tue Jun 18 1996 15:09 | 10 |
| "The major pathway of mercury to lakes is rain. This means that fish
from remote lakes may contain mercury levels that are similar to fish
from lakes in industrialized areas. The mercury can accumulate in the
organic matter of lake sediments. In time, bacteria in the sediments
convert the mercury into a form which can enter the food chain. It is
then consumed by progressively higher life forms and eventually by
full-sized fish where it bioaccumulates in their tissues. It is likely
that mercury now detected in New Hampshire fish is more reflective of
past emissions, which may now be reduced or not active, rather than
current emissions."
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