Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

RE: .0

	Some of us have pretty extensive reference libraries...  What
kind of fish are you planning to go after?

					B.C.

Hi,

I'm basically an all rounder, Altho I am partial to Flathead, Black Bream,
 Sole, Leatherjackets. And altho I havent been trying for them I would like
to start luring for tailer.

I am fishing mainly off rocks at the moment, and every 3 to 4 weeks on a boat,
but am buying a boat soon.......

Craig......

    Hi Craig,
    
    I'm afraid I'm still not clear on the type of fishing that
    you're into (and I thought fishermen would be able to communicate
    *regardless* of country of origin!!).
    
    I've personally never heard of Leatherjackets (in the piscatorial 
    sense) or tailers(?). Sole is a salt water species here in New 
    England (USA), while flatheads are a fresh water catfish.  Bream is
    one of the many species of fresh water panfish.
    
    So, I guess the questions I have are:
    
       - Are we talking salt or fresh water fishing.
       - Are the species named above the actual names of the fish
         or local nicknames.
       
    This is pretty interesting stuff, getting a perspective on fishing
    in a foreign (to me) environement.  Keep writing !
    
    Gus-man
    
    

Sorry Gus,

It's saltwater fishing That i'm into.   ok lets see.....

all the fish I mentioned are saltwater fish.... the flathead are similar to
a catfish but dont have whisker, the are brown on top and white on the bottom.
There are two species (dusky & sand). They can grow up to 1.5 metres long.
They are very common and are sand fish, very territorial and a good fighter.
they are a fantastic eating fish. The others Ill tell you about tomorrow, as
I have a few books on saltwater fish at home. 

Also just for your info , the baits used over here mainly are, Prawns, 
Pilchards, squid. There are heaps more but these are the main ones....


I'll tell you about the fish tomorrow and how you catch them !!!  

I was actually brought up in Scotland, but the only fish we ever tried to catch 
were in the loch's. 

Later Gus.

    I'll take a shot here. In general if you are fishing for bottom fish
    (ie. non pelagics, general white meat, not oily that eat most bottom
    dwelling creatures) then some sort of bucktail or shiny jig would
    be appropriate maybe tipped with a strip of squid. If the fish are
    more free swimming then swiming plugs probably are a good bet. In
    general you need to match the hatch.
    
    Bruce

O.k. Explain what a plug is... And yes flathead (flatties) are bottom dwellers.
but they arent crustacean eaters they are scavengers, eating anything smaller
than they are, injured or dead as well.
Black Bream are a school fish which eat crustaceans and the likes. 

Tailor, are a school fish that move about from spot to spot, I dont know too
much about them , but catching them is best on a gang hook, (3 hooks) fairly
big with a whole pilchard on the hooks. (about 10cm long).

How do you set a plug up ??  

Craig ?�?�?

    
    Hi
    I used to work/live in Manley for a while, and there is a great fishing
    Shop on the coast Rd to the North.. I think it was called North 
    Harbour/Shore Tackle.
    
    They were very helpfull when I was there, and had the largest selection
    of Lures I've ever seen, from Tiny ones right up to Marlin Lures which
    were bigger than any fish I'd ever seen. I'm sure they can give you
    some advice.
    
    They also do a great mail order cat' if anyone else is interested in 
    how its done down under, its a different world from Seaford UK where 
    I was Last night. I may have an old copy of the catalog somewhere if
    anyone is interested.
    
    Martin
    
    
    
    

    Plugs are wood/plastic bait fish imitations with some sort of lip
    to impart swimming action. They may be jointed. Some float, some sink,
    some dive shallow or deep. The usually have from 1-3 sets of treble
    hooks on them.
    
    Bruce

    Gus,
    
    I just discovered this conference, checked for Oz entries and ended up
    here. If you've been fishing around Sydney since July I guess you know
    more about it than I do.
    
    On the subject of lures, Ken Appel on Port Hacking Rd, Caringbah have
    some great deals on lures right now (I live in the South). They say
    that Flatties love a soft plastic lead-head jig in red or yellow or a
    bibbed minnow with three trebles in green.
    
    Tailer are a sort after beach and estaury sporting target. They like
    a little sport themselves, chomping the tails off their targets before
    they feed (thus the name). This has an added bonus for the species in
    that older can easily feed on unwanted crippled baitfish. For this reason
    older (>6kg) Tailer will seldom be taken on a lure. Given this trait a
    high density metal slice or metal minnow of about 2oz with a single treble
    retrieved fairly quickly is the go.
    
    I caught my first Tailer (3lb) at Stanwell Park last week on a double
    1/0 Paternoser rig using frozen worm. Not a textbook catch, but then
    anything can and usually does happen.
    
    Although lure fishing is great fun, I've had countless lures and at the
    moment I only have two in my possession. For this I have to show only
    one pathetic undersize Flattie caught on a lure. He was obviously
    having a sleep in the sand when my lure hooked him in the top of the
    nose as it went past.
    
    On another subject. Since October I've fished from Hervey Bay (Qld) to
    Venus Bay (Vic) and a lot of places in between. Almost everywhere I go
    are tales of woe about how the east coast is all fished out, there's
    been no fish for two seasons etc. etc. My catches (or lack of) seem to
    back this up fairly well. Someone please tell me it gets better than
    this. If I could bring home a regular feed then I could better justify
    outrageous tackle purchases (or even a boat) while the family home
    falls into decay.
    
    It seems to me that the amateurs claims of over-fishing by the pros
    have merit if not proof. Northern Territory Barramundi numbers (and the
    amateur Barra hunters from all around the world) are reportedly booming
    since in-shore pro fishing stopped. Anybody who wets a line on the
    weekend can see that amateurs way outnumber pros and must altogether
    plough at least an order of magnitude more of their hard-earned into
    the industry.
    
    What do you think?
    
    Doug