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Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

378.0. "3 HP = # Lbs Thrust??" by NEMAIL::PETERSEN () Fri Apr 29 1994 10:46

    Can anyone explain the relationship or formula to equate
    Lbs Thrust to H.P. ?
    
    I'm looking at the new Minn Kotas and can't decide on whether
    to go with the new H.P. Series (3 H.P.) or the 36/42 Lb thrust,
    price are compatible ~$300 bucks.
    
    Thanks in advance.
    
    Erik
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378.11 HP = 15-18 foot lbs thrustAOSG::HEBENSTREITMon May 02 1994 10:254
    Erik,  a salesman at the Kittery Trading Post told me that 1Hp
    equates to roughly 15-18 pounds of thrust.
    
    Good luck, mark
378.2volts x amps = powerTAMDNO::WHITMANthe 2nd Amend protects the other 9Mon May 02 1994 11:2511
    If you use the voltage times amps = watts as an indicator you can do the
power comparisons in an apples-to-apples manner. 

		   Power = voltage x current (P=IE)

   Almost all the electrics tell you both the voltage and amperage draw.  Do the
multiplication and you should get the actual "power" in watts.

   Some machines may be more efficient in that there may be less heat loss,
but generally you should be able to do a reasonable comparison this way...
   
378.31 HP = 550 ft.lb./sec.ELWOOD::CRANSONTue May 03 1994 15:362
    1 HP = 745.7 watts
    
378.4gimmickTAMDNO::WHITMANthe 2nd Amend protects the other 9Wed May 04 1994 09:3020
 -< 1 HP = 550 ft.lb./sec. >-

    1 HP = 745.7 watts
    
Somewhere there is a marketing disconnect.

1hp = 745.7W / 12V = ~62A

3hp = ~2.2KW / 24 = ~100A


there is no way your 3HP electric on 24V draws 100 amps

	NOR

does the 1HP electric on 12V draw 62 amps

Gotta be a marketing gimmick to boost the numbers.  It cannot be ACTUAL power
consumption. You'd melt the wiring.  I believe my 12V 28lb thrust electric has 
a 30A fuse.
378.5wordsNUBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighWed May 04 1994 09:3913
Maybe they've determined that a given electric trolling motor mounted on
a reference boat which is tethered to a graduated scale fixed to shore
pulls with the same force as an X horsepower gasoline-fired outboard
motor under the same controlled conditions.

So, pick a 1 horsepower outboard (is there such a thing?), mount it on
the reference boat, and under controlled conditions measure the amount of
force exerted pulling against the scale. Then, replace the gas motor with
an electric trolling motor, and adjust the controlling factors (voltage,
current, prop diameter and pitch, motor RPM) until you equal the force
exerted by the 1HP gas outboard. Call that the "electric equivalent to a
1HP motor."

378.6SUBPAC::CRONINWed May 04 1994 10:189
    	.5 hit it on the head.  Somewhere in Minn Kota literature it tells
    you that it is equivelent thrust of a given horsepower.
    
    	My 2 cents?  Buy one with the Maximizer feature.  Infinitly
    variable power and longer battery life.  I have a 36 lb. thrust Power
    Drive on the front of my 15 ft. Whaler and it gives my lots of power
    and lots of time per charge.
    
    					B.C.
378.742 lb it will be...NEMAIL::PETERSENThu May 05 1994 10:2510
    It does sound more and more like a marketing gimmick, why didn't they 
    just call it a 50 lb thrust, or whatever comes after the 36/42 lb
    models?  The prices really show that there can't be much of a
    difference, I think the 36/42 were about $285 and the 3 HP was $300.
    
    I think I'll probably go with the 42lb transom mount.
    
    Thanks for the help.
    
    Erik