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Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

329.0. "Public Access Issues" by RANGER::MACINTYRE (Terminal Angler) Thu Oct 07 1993 14:09

    There was an article in yesterday's Milford Cabinet reporting how a
    group of 25 Baboosic Lake residents have convinced the Amherst Board 
    of Selectmen to put the brakes on looking into providing a boat ramp
    on Baboosic Lake.
    
    I'm going to try and find the time to mail a copy of the article to the
    Public Access Board/Project sponsored by the state and Fish and Game.
    
    I was encouraged to see that the selectmen were interested in the idea,
    but dissapointed they let a small group of lake side residents squash
    it.
    
    -donmac
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329.1I've got mineROBOAT::HEBERTCaptain BlighThu Oct 07 1993 16:4357
Yeah, it's the classic "I'm here now, let's pull up the drawbridge"
syndrome. They used (among others) the hackneyed "...will churn up the
lake and damage the fragile ecology..." thing.

This is not a pristine gin-clear natural state lake. This is a built-up
220 acre lake, studded with cottages and houses, most of which have power
boats at the docks. Max depth is about 26', but that's in just one hole.
Most of the lake is 8-12' deep.

I've lived in the area long enough to remember Da Skeez, a straight
inboard owned by one of those `natives'. It had a 454 Olds engine and
straight pipes. I frequently heard it from the opposite side of Walnut
Hill. Then there was the "Gas Man" (the locals' pet name) with the
souped-up Johnson outboard that was allegedly running close to 300 hp. He
made regular and routine 80mph runs up and down, up and down, up and
down... (they figured he owned a gas station, hence the pet name). 

Now, we've apparently discovered a scientific phenomenon that boats owned by
waterfront owners do not churn up the bottom and damage the fragile
ecology.

Many of the properties were once "camps" and seasonal cottages. You know,
the type that has a 55-gallon barrel for a septic system. Then with a few
studs and some Texture 111 - voila - a year-round house and real estate
bonanza. I've personally seen (gag) raw sewage floating in one of the
coves - on enough occasions to decide that one of those fragile
ecology-sensitive types has a failed septic system. But that's okay
because they belong to the Association. 

I volunteered a few years back, and worked on the Amherst Recreation
Commission for a year. One of my ulterior motives was to clear up the
mystery surrounding the public access to Baboosic Lake. I live about a
mile away. You never heard so much bull - or saw so much foot-dragging.

At the time, Leo Daigle allowed people to use the launch ramp in his yard
(for a cash `donation'), so the town decided to just benignly neglect to
stomp on him, and backed away from the Public Access issue. Leo's ramp
pacified the folks who wanted to get on the lake for a day's chugging or
fishing. Leo died.

If you leave the town beach and drive directly toward Leo's old house,
bear left, and go about 200 feet, there's a "public access" on the maps
right there on the right that has been hidden by the two
abutting lot owners. It's essentially invisible now, having the
appearance of a continuation of the abutters' lots.

One of the problems surrounding the whole thing is the definition of
"public access." The "I've Got Mine" crowd says, you can carry a canoe
across the town beach and lauch it there: that's public access.
Apparently the State said, we need a launch ramp, and it will cost
$61,000 to build it.

And, by the way, I happen to own waterfront property on another, larger
lake in NH. There's public access to that lake, and I vote to keep it
open.

Art
329.2Is this really a new topic in this conference?SPARKL::JOHNHCThu Oct 07 1993 20:131
    
329.3Public Access????MKOTS1::BOURGAULTFri Oct 08 1993 13:4330
    Art I,m a member of the State B.A.S.S. Federation and at one of
    recent meetings we had a presentation on what the state is
    attempting to around public access and identifying the access points.
    Volunteers were requested, to assist in checking lakes for possible 
    access points. Then go to town hall and ask for the the lot plans. IF
    any of these access areas are identified with a SOA (State owned
    ACCESS) they are to bring that information back to the state so that
    they can reclaim the land. In some cases people have closed these
    access and built on them. The state will start proceedings to come
    to a resolution on these access points.  A one hour training session 
    is given on this process and how to fill out the paperwork to inform
    the state. You will also be checking on existing access points and
    describing conditions and launch difficulty. The states intent is 
    twofold: they currently have over 250 access points they cannot locate?
    And they would also like to create a book that would identify all
    State owned access points and give descriptions of launch conditions
    parking other facilities. A house bill was recently passed RSA 207 that 
    will allow the state to take land by eminent domain for the purpose of 
    public access. As with any law it will probably be years before they
    use it.
    
     DonMac if you could forward me a copy of the Babbosic lake issue. The 
    federation is having its quarterly meeting with the fish and game on
    the 25th of the month and I would like to bring this issue to their 
    attention since we have other public access issues on the agenda.
    
     Regards
    
     Don B,
    
329.4goodRANGER::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerFri Oct 08 1993 14:081
    Sounds good Don, I'll give you a copy to the tournament tomorrow.
329.5Rocky Pond No Access SignRANGER::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerThu Aug 31 1995 16:4117
    A week or so Keith and I went to Rocky Pond in Hollis and found a sign
    at the boat launch that said no powerboating, no fishing, no iceskating,
    and on and on, virtually 'no nuthin'...  It's a small pond and I could 
    understand no use of gas motors but 'no fishing' is absolutely ridiculous.
    
    I just got around to complaining about it today. During lunch I called the
    Hollis (NH) Police Dept and they didn't know much about the details but
    said the Board of Selectmen were aware of it and to call them.  I did
    and was told to ignore the sign and to go ahead and fish. Property owners 
    have put it up without any authority and they are trying to have it 
    taken down. 
    
    They are receiving lots of complaints and are logging all calls.  If
    this is a pond you occassionally fish feel free to ignore the sign, and 
    if you are concerned give the selectmen a call at (603)465-2780.
    
    -donmac