Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

 Keep your stomach full. Take dramamine (or something similar) before you 
leave the dock.

re: -1
        Keep your stomach full. 

Actually, that's in consideration of the others on board.  If you DO blow
lunch, you'll end up putting down a nice amount of chum!

-HSJ-

    	The pills will probably do it. Read the label and follow the
    directions. One of the biggest mistakes people make with the pills is
    that they don't take them till they get on the boat. By then, it's way
    to late.
    
    	RAYJ

    Full stomach, take the pill, no coffee, and think fish..

    	My father had a bad problem with sea-sickness and he tried
    using the patch that you put behind your ear. He swears by them
    now. They took him through 10ft slow rollers on Ontario for 6
    hours in a 28ft charter boat. They worked where the pills wouldn't.
    I think you must put them on 24hrs in advance. Good luck....
    
    						Rich

    
    
      I have allway's advised my charter groups that if they are prone to 
    seasickness and they opt to take the dramamine pills to take the
    required doseage starting 48 hrs in advance and then 24 hrs before the
    trip and then 2 or 3 hours before the trip.
      In doing this your body already has the contents in its system,
    therefore it will keep you from getting nautious before the pill
    medication has a chance to get into your system.
    
        The patch behind the ear works wonderfull and often times is more
    tollerable to the person, alot of people have trouble takeing the pills
    they make them sick. another alternative is the wrist straps, the nice
    bennifit of theese are that they can be used over and over again.
    
                                                    Lee
    

      I totally agree with taking the pills at least 12-24 hours BEFORE the
    trip. At, least it has worked for me..I have tried the patch solution
    but found some mild side effects mostly a dry mouth and for me ,at
    least, a general unsettled feeling when I'm not ON the boat. I would 
    recc. full stomach (But watch what you eat, I once watched a twin
    lobster dinner go overboard on an overnight trip)and take your pills
    before.
    
                                                 Bud

    Be aware that dramamine will make you very sleepy to the point of being
    unsafe to drive home after the ride.
    
    The patch or some other pill might be more to your taste.  I don't use
    anything so I'm not positive on this, but I think the patch requires a
    prescription.
    
    
    Ken

    Some little things that might help:
    
    -Keep your stomach full of dry food like crackers
    -look at the horizon and not at the side of the boat or the waves near
    the boat
    -when practical (i.e. intransit), stay in the middle of the boat near
    the pivot point where there is less movement. The stern and bow are the
    worst locations
    -stay upwind of engine fumes, diesel odors, smelly bait, etc.
    -if you do get sick, go to the rail and throw up. Don't fight it, puke
    and get it over with. Then drink some water so you'll have something to
    heave next time around. Dry heaves are the worst. There is no stigma
    associated with seasickness. Almost everyone gets it, some just take
    longer than others. Take 50 guys out in a small boat for a week and 49
    will get sick, some witin an hour, some after 3 days. You'll feel a lot
    better afterwards, at least for a while.
    
    Chris

>    -when practical (i.e. intransit), stay in the middle of the boat near
>    the pivot point where there is less movement. The stern and bow are the
>    worst locations

 I've always found the stern to be the location with the least movement, as
the pivot point seems to be pretty near the screw(s).

    
    Whenever I fly or go out on the ocean, I take 2 pills before going
    to bed, and 2 as soon's I get up.  Then I pack a good breakfast
    on TOP of them.  
    
    Fred

    Agree with all the above but must stress watch what you eat.
    Eat a good steak and potatos meal the night before with no
    alcohol, get a good nights sleep. Lay off the greassy or
    extra spicy stuff.
    
    Start any medication before hand.
    
    Bruce

    
    
    There is an over the counter medication called Bomine or Bonime that is
    very samilar to draminie pills but does mot make you drozy. The wife
    takes them and like them much better than Dramine. 
    
    Some rules to try and follow so you do't put your body at a higher risk
    of getting sick are to watch what you eat, don't drink too much before
    going and get some sleep the night before going out.
    
    But if you do get sick, and every dog does have it's day don't let it
    spoil your day keep trying to have fun while creating all that great
    chum for everyone.
    
    Irv 
    the Fish-in Technician

    
    
    		The patch is very effective (I've heard) but is made
    	from some real weird stuff. One of the main ingredients is
    	"scopolomine" ( think thats the way its spelled). This substance
    	is one of the primary materials in organic hallucigens. I've read
    	of folks getting up at night and walking overboard and having
    	hallucinations. I think you should always use what works best but
    	be very careful with this stuff..( Never go alone )
    
    
    	PS: could be all hype though ( never use anything myself.)
    

    	If you do wind up getting sick, STAY OUT OF THE CABIN. That and the
    head are the absolutely worse places to be when you're sick, especially
    the later (if you can help it).
    
    	If you have a tendancy to get sick trying to read in a moving car you 
    may have a tendancy toward sea sickness. I personnally have more problems 
    with what I drink than what I eat. Coffee, VERY early in the morning 
    (which is when most trips leave), tends to upset my stomach. Tea, for 
    whatever reason, doesn't seem to be as bad for me.
    
    	One thing people can try, as sort of a dry run, is to go on a
    half-day trip just to see how they'll do. At least if you do get sick
    it is only a 4 hour ordeal rather than 8.
    
    	RAYJ
    

    At the risk of muddying the waters even more, here's my experience with
    seasick remedies:
    
    1. Dramamine - Makes you drowsy and dries you out, but works if you use
    it far enough in advance. How long varies. Ususally a couple of hours
    works. There's a new Dramamine II on the market that is supposed to
    make you "less drowsy". My wife has used both and they both knock her
    out, with the Dramamine II slightly less so. We couldn't find Dramamine
    II on the regular shelves with the motion sickness remedies. It was in
    the pharmacy where they keep the prescription stuff even though it
    doesn't require a prescription. I've still gotten seasick even after
    taking Dramamine.
    
    2. Bonine - Essentially the same effect as Dramamine, but maybe makes
    you a little less sleepy. Still dries you out. When I take pills, I
    like Bonine better.
    
    3. The Patch - Called "Trans-derm Scop" and you need a prescription for
    it. You wear it on your neck behind your ear lobe and can last up to 
    3 days. For that reason, it's favored by people going on cruises. In my
    experience it works the best. My wife, my son and I who all get seasick
    under varying conditions use it and have never gotten sick. (Although
    under really rough conditions, I've come close a few times). The major
    disadvantages are that it, too, makes you sleepy and dries you out. A
    friend of mine who tried it got so tired and spaced out, he'll never
    use again. It also has other side effects such as blurring your vision. 
    If you wear contact lenses, don't handle the lenses after handling the patch
    without washing your hands carefully. Trans-derm scop is scopalomine
    which was used as "truth serum" in WWII and is a potent drug, so expect
    to space out a little with it, but it works GREAT.
    
    4. Wrist bands - Sometimes called "Sea Bands" or something like that.
    Totally useless in my experience. I've tried them and friends and
    family have tried them and no one has ever had success with them.
    
    5. Other non-drug ideas - I've read about, but not tried, powdered
    ginger. You can buy empty capsules and powdered ginger in the health
    food stores. Fill the capsules with the ginger and take 2 about 4 hours
    before your trip and then take one or two every hour or two while you
    are traveling. If you are not highly prone to seasickness, this might
    work the best since there are no side effects.
    
    Hope this info helps.
    
    Fellow-sufferer-who-was-fine-til-he-turned-40
    
    Art
    

Many good pointers precede this one. Keeping your stomach full has helped
me and people on my boat(s) over the years. 

Bring a box or two of "Ginger Snaps" cookies along - they help two ways:
lightly filling your stomach, and getting the ginger in you as was
recommended in a previous reply.

When we got TransScopDerm patches for my son they worked great, providing
he put them on the night before going fishing.

Don't have eggs and greasy meat for breakfast that day. 

Don't bring a salami-and-anything sandwich.

Don't think it's the end of the world if you still get mal-de-mer. It's
been around for thousands of years.

Art

    
     I second, Bonine!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
    It doesn't make you drowsy like Dramamine....
    The best advice, EAT A GOOD BREAKFAST!
    
    Tom

    Well thanks for all the replies!
    
    	I will probrably take the pills and will take them in advance - I
    would normally have just taken when getting on the boat.
    
    	As for the patches - I'll take them when I'm going out  on sat.
    night!
    
    I'll let you know how I get on - we go on Sunday.
    
    
    	Thanks again for the replies.
    
    
    						Stuart.

    
    
    	Went to a party on sat night which we left at 4:30a.m. - managed
    to get a couple of hours sleep then went down - took a sickness tab
    and felt fine all day.
    But the water was dead calm - like glass as it was a terrific day.
    
    Caught the biggest fish - 7-8lb cod plus a large ling - bought 3-4 feet
    long.
    
    We coaught ten different species including
    pollock,dogfish,coal-fish,Cukoo-rasp and another type of rasp,scorpion
    fish plus a couple I can't remember the name of.Some of these fish were
    really wierd - really bright colours of reds blues greens and one fish
    had big fan-like fins and one fish "burred" very loudly.Some of these 
    fish looked like they came from the tropics - not freezing cold
    scotland.
    
    Had a great day - going back soon - after some more Pike Fishing.
    
    
    
    
    					Stuart.