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    The following is a reproduction of the 'American Pulp Wood Association's
Table for Measuring Relative Safety of Ice'

    It referes to 'the hard blue ice that forms on lakes and ponds'.

    'The strength of ice is reduced by at lease 15% for clead blue ice over
running water such as a river.'

    'Slushy ice has less than half the strength of blue ice.'



                         APA Ice Thickness Table

                   Ice Thickness   |   Permissable Load
                   ----------------+---------------------
                      2.0 Inches   | One Person on Foot
                      3.0 Inches   | Group in Single File
                      7.5 Inches   | Passenger Car (2-Ton)
                      8.0 Inches   | Light Truck (2.5 Ton)
                     10.0 Inches   | Truck (3.5 Ton)
                     12.0 Inches   | Heavy Truck (7 Ton)
                     15.0 Inches   | 10 Tons
                     20.0 Inches   | 25 Tons
                     25.0 Inches   | 45 Tons

                 Table reproduced here without permission.

                        W I N D   C H I L L    F A C T O R
            ( E Q U I V .   T E M P   O F   E X P O S E D   F L E S H )


    W    40|  1 | -7 |-15 |-22 |-29 |-36 |-45 |-54 |-62 |-69 |-76 |-87 |-94 |
    I     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    N    35|  3 | -4 |-13 |-20 |-27 |-35 |-43 |-52 |-60 |-67 |-72 |-83 |-90 |
    D     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
         30|  5 | -2 |-11 |-18 |-25 |-33 |-41 |-49 |-56 |-63 |-70 |-78 |-87 |
    S     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    P    25|  7 |  0 | -7 |-15 |-22 |-29 |-37 |-45 |-52 |-58 |-67 |-75 |-83 |
    E     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    E    20| 12 |  3 | -4 | -9 |-17 |-24 |-32 |-40 |-46 |-52 |-60 |-68 |-76 |
    D     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
         15| 16 | 11 |  1 | -6 |-11 |-18 |-25 |-33 |-40 |-45 |-51 |-60 |-65 |
    M     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
    P    10| 21 | 16 |  9 |  2 | -2 | -9 |-15 |-22 |-27 |-31 |-38 |-45 |-52 |
    H     -+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----+----<
             35   30   25   20   15   10    5    0   -5  -10  -15  -20  -25  

                      A I R   T E M P E R A T U R E   ( deg. F )

		I HATE THIS TOPIC!


			I HATE THIS NOTE!


				I HATE YOU!


And I have NOT put the boat away...yet!

-HSJ-

    -Joe you must be thinking about heading south?
    unless you r going to hook some dogs to the front
    of your boat to pull you across THE ICE? Kinda 
    hate to say it but it shouldnt be long now
    i'm in no rush.
    
    
    				Gil~

Aaaaaarrrrrghhhh!!!!

It looks like this Saturday will be my last day out for the season...rain or
shine, wind or sn*w.  Then, I'll reluctantly (and to my wife's pleasure) 
winterize it and stow it away.  

It's the most depressing day of the year!

-HSJ- (who glanced quickly at the power auger in the corner, but just once!)

    I kinda hated the thought of taking up ice-fishing when I first was
    asked about 5 years ago.  Since then I have become hooked (so to
    speak).  In fact, the best day I ever had fishing in Wisconsin, open or
    stiff water, was through the ice.  I caught five bass in three hours
    that were 4 pounds to 6 pounds.  Several other smaller ones too.  I
    thought I had gone to TIP-UP heaven.  It can be great on a warm sunny
    day. But I have had my share of very cold and windy days as well.  As I am 
    sitting out there freezing, that's when I wonder if I am a few minnows 
    short of a full bait bucket.  Then I hear music to my ears, FLAG!!!!!
    
    By the way, ice-fishing still gets you out of the house to avoid all
    the work your wife has for you.  There are always good articles in 
    the IN-Fisherman magazine about ice-fishing that may wet your appetite. 
    Don't waste a good power auger for another year.
    
    Dave

    It figures, I go and buy a nice new power auger last winter and then
    promptly relocate to Seattle, Wa., I'm told I'll have to drive several
    hours to find ice fishing out here.
    
    
    I'll miss being at the derby this year, all you guys will miss is an
    extra 10 bucks!
    
    Moose

    
    
         I saw a 5 1/2 pound Rainbow trout last night. A fantastic 
    
    fish it was. The guy caught it at Newfound Lake yesterday ice 
    
    fishing. He was one of the 2 brothers that caught an 8 1/2 
    
    and an 11 pound Salmon on back-to-back weekends earlier this
    
    year ( an article on the Salmons was published in the Sunday
    
    Union Leader earlier this year.
    
                                    Jeff (Captain)
                                    Team Starcraft

    So how thick is the ice on Newfound? Is it completely iced over?
    
    Thanks.
    
    John H-C

 NFW- They are fishing the bays only. On the south end is some ice, and the
far northern end. The middle is open water.

	For those of us in Colorado:  11-Mile and Antero have about 1 foot
	of ice.  I caught 3 rainbows at about 2 pounds each at Antero
	last week.  Some friends report some good salmon action at 11-Mile.
	I'll try off Halbert Point this weekend.

    Went out on Norwich Lake the other day (Monday); There's approx. 8 inches
of ice off the old rec. hall and the whole pond's iced over. I started to set
up around 7:00 and before I got my fourth tip-up in I'd had two flags - one
hit and run (and spit-it-out) and one average sized perch. A few flags later
and one of the "large" shiners got hit followed by a good run. I set into
a pickerel that turned out to be 18+ inches and approx. 1 lb (deliar). A few
more flags (three perch and three pickerel - all released) and then things
went dead around 10:00 / 10:30. I'll be back up there bright and early New
Years day 1993!

           L E T   T H E   S E A S O N   B E G I N   !

---

Joe Whittemore - From where the Westfield
                      Meets the Westfield
                         By the Westfield
                            In Huntington (MA)

    Went to Wisconsin this past weekend to get my ice fishing season
    underway.  Had plenty of ice (7-8 inches) and even caught a couple nice
    bass, 3 pounds and 4 pounds.  I let them go to be caught another day.  I 
    better quit while I am ahead of the game.
    
    It's nice to go home and not have to eat the left-over bait again. 
    Save the saltines for next time.
    
    Dave

    
                 Anyone out there been to A-1 yet, how is the ice ? We
      hit Attitash last Sunday and slam'd the pickeral...had a ball.
      

    	Last weekend it had about 8-10 inches on it. Lot's of people
    fishing it too.
    
    	Scott
    

    
    
             This weekend it had only 4" of ice, and again lots of
        people. Had some fun, a bit slow for us ...but behind us
        and closer to shore they were banging the big one's for 
        sure, bass 3-5 lb's (4). Good take, first time there for me !!
    
                                                Ken

    Anyone have an update on the ice thickness on Newfound?

    Thanks,

    George

Don't know about Newfound, but was out ice fishing yesterday on Stumpfield
and was chatting with a guy who said ice on Winnie is scarce.  Meridith Bay, 
HQ site for the Winnie Derby in a few weeks, is still WIDE OPEN!  Only the 
smaller, protected coves have any ice and it's still not too safe.

Unless we get a real quick deep freeze in the next couple of weeks, there's 
gonna be lots of folks crowding what little safe ice there is!  Should be
interesting.

-HSJ-

BTW...Stumpfield had a solid 8-10" on it.

    George, since your in a private club the rules are most likley a bit
    different with bylaws etc, you should probably read your hand book 
    or ask a few question at your club meeting, A buddy of mine's in a 
    club, and if you catch a trout your cannot release it, you have to take
    it with you, (well for there ice fishing derby's anyway, with a limit
    of 3 fish.) 
    
    					GIL!

    	Does anyone know anything about a derby at A1 site this coming 
    	weekend???
    
    	thanks,
    	Scott

    
    In southern Worcester county, anyone know how thick the ice is?
    
    Gunna hit ole 'Chargogg tomorrow morning.
    First time out in either 3 or 4 years.
    And ole "mother-in-law" nature seems to have grown tired
    of being a real b____, and is allowing us to have a 35 to 40
    degree day.  Just right for a novice from the U.K. to break
    into this stuff.  Now I hope the residents below the hard
    water co-operate.  :^)
    
    Fred

    the lake in question has 18 inches min behind waterfront marys
    anglers are said to have caught 2 in the 20 lb range last sat.
    
    
    
    Bob
    ps last week an airplane landed on the ice to check me out
    right near goat island.

    
    Saturday we drilled thru approx 2' out in Smiths cove.
    
    Finished setting up about 8, had 1 bite about 10, left
    at 2.   Getting off the ice a person from the Mass. Div.
    of Fisheries'n Wildlife asked if we'd answer some questions.
    Related to time of arrival, what we were fishing for, how
    many tilts, type of bait, and what we caught.  He laffed
    and said "no one else is doing any better today."
    
    Going out again on wednesday.  Not sure yet just where.
    
    Couldn't even get a tap onna jiggin' stick!  
    
    Fred

    	Well, I had a great day Saturday. I didn't have much planned
    for the day so I was puttering around the house until my Bro-in-law
    called about 12:30pm and felt like fishing. It was warm out so we 
    decided to tale Cam, my 2 1/2 yr old Son. The gears went south in my
    auger so we were hoping there were people there that morning and left
    saving us some work. Bingo. 12 holes not even frozen over. We set up
    by 2:00 and the first flag went up at 2:15. Bang! 5.25lb bass. 5 min
    later, Bang! 3lb bass. over the course of the afternoon, we iced and
    released those 2 plus 2 more 3lbers, 6-7 +-2lbs, and about 5-6 shorts.
    The best day of the year. Not bad for sleeping in...
    
    					Butch

    
    
    
       Hi Butch,
    
           Just wondering on what lake did you get all that "GREAT" action
       at, in that time of day ??? Ever been to South pond? Went down there
       two weeks ago and got skunked..:^(. Oh well gotta be in the right
    place at the right time i guess...
    
    
    
     Brian