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Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

179.0. "California Salt" by SWAM1::WIERSUM_GA () Tue May 19 1992 01:57

    
    California SALT WATER...,..Aint no topics!
    
    Well, out of the fact I aint got no boat (TBDW still lives) I took my
    laker rod 8lb. test Stren and went to the beach.  I now live in LAGUNA 
    BEACH (143 Yards from the breakers..206 Cliff Dr. if you wanna stop by).
    
    3/4 oz jig  head with a rubber (looks like the old Fla. Golliwwomper
    with a tail paddle) lure.
    
    I start castin out beyond the breakers.  2nd cast.........What's this?
    A strike?  A SEA BASS>..................YEA, I'm physched!
    
    I aint got no licence and this boogrer is only 20 inches long. (28 is
    legal)
    
    In the plastic bag it goes and I just had it for dinner. with a left
    over cheese soufle' and a Great bottle of wine.
    
    Just thought I'd say Hello..............
    
    TBW=  The BEACH WIZZARD
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179.1SALT_H20 LicenseCAPL::LANDRY_DTue May 19 1992 09:278
	Didn't know you needed a license to SALT_H20 fish in general?

	Exception I know here in Northeast is for Tuna.

	What's the "rest of the story" from CA?

	-< Tuna Tail >-
179.2Salt Water licenses are coming to your townKOLFAX::WHITMANAcid Rain Burns my BassTue May 19 1992 11:0325
<	Didn't know you needed a license to SALT_H20 fish in general?
<
<	Exception I know here in Northeast is for Tuna.
<
<	What's the "rest of the story" from CA?

   Didn't you know, salt water licenses are the latest rage.  Florida has one,
and California has one, don't know about the rest of the civilized world.  It's
called rip-off the tourist, but it spills over to the residents as well.  Come
to the sun and the sea and the fun.  Want to fish???  PAY, PAY, PAY.  In fact
in Florida they are separate licenses so you have th pleasure of paying twice.
Ain't we having fun???

   Massachusetts will have one eventually, California and Florida are just
trend setters.  The greedy politicians will find out that people are able (if
not exactly willing) to PAY to fish anywhere there are fish... Heck in some
states people PAY to fish for stocked catfish in a farm pond.  I have a brother
who catches catfish out of the Rappohannock River in Va. and sells 1000 lbs
a week to some guy with a tank truck who takes them to So. Carolina (I think)
where he sells them to the "U-fish" operators.  Those people pay $10/hr for
up to 10 lbs of fish and then pay by the pound for anything over the 10 lbs.

Enjoy the freebee's while you can..

Al
179.3got any vaseline..AIMHI::BORZUMATOTue May 19 1992 12:1925
    
    Its disgusting, all for the general fund, just like the
    
    User Fee for boats, or is it abuser fee. I can see fresh
    
    water licenses to a point, (although i don't fish it)
    
    they do stock, and maintain etc. so those revenues do some
    
    good. Stock the ocean for who, the draggers.  I used to fish
    
    for fluke (summer flounder, flounder with teeth) i took enough
    
    for a meal, not being greedy. I havn't been able to find any
    
    in the last 2 years, the commercial boats follow them to the
    
    breeding grounds and hammer them there.  
    
    Are we gonna hear, the fees will be used for restoration,
    
    Sure for abouse....
    
    
    JIm.
179.4JUPITR::NEALTue May 19 1992 12:552
    They must need the cash to hire more Gamewardens to catch the poachers
    of undersized fish, like TBDW in .0 . 
179.5SWAM1::WIERSUM_GATue May 19 1992 16:2714
    
    I will buy a license.  I needed to see if it was even possible to catch
    dinner next to "main Beach".
    
    BTW  
    
    Ca. resident for salt lic. is about 18 buck
    non res.=  about 55 bucks
    
    Hey mod, can you change the header from ..have beer to CALIFORNIA SALT?
    
    Be easier for the dir
    
    
179.6DO something aobut it!!DELNI::JMCDONOUGHTue May 19 1992 16:4519
      
       I agree with all the gripin'...but GUESS WHAT??? Who's RESPONSIBLE
    for all of this ripping-off of the citizens??? YEP!! The folks that
    keep electing losers to political positions...
    
       If we are ever gonna change this garbage, then we gotta DUMP all the
    political theives that make careers out or leeching of the taxpayers
    and fee payers... 
    
       I guess we MAY have a beginning opportunity this year....I fer one
    am NOT gonna vote for ANY 'incompents'...or s that
    "incumbents"...sounds about the same....
    
    
        Nor am I gonna vote for a democrat or republican for Prez...but I
    AM gonna vote for another guy who WILL be running....a guy who wants to
    return this country to the PEOPLE!!
    
      JM
179.7Need just one (for now)WLDWST::GARRISONTue May 19 1992 17:534
    A California fishing license is valid for all waters in the state both
    fresh and salt. It costs $23.65 (the most expensive in the nation).
    Hopefully some of the money goes to catching people fishing without a 
    license and keeping under sized fish.
179.8TEACH ME, TEACH MESWAM1::WIERSUM_GAThu May 21 1992 12:1823
    
    Hey Rich,
    
    I bought a license
    
    Question:
    
    -High tide/low tide?
    -Incomming/outgoing?
    
    Last evening, I saw a guy pull in about a three lb. Corbina. I thought
    it was a bone fish from what I remember from watchin Mark Sosin fly for
    them in in Fla.
    
    This guy has a 10 foot rod and very large spincaster using FOUR (4lb.
    pound test.  He could cast a small crab with somme split shot about 50
    yards (it seemed that far).
    
    btw, these surfcastin types have the UGLIEST most coroded gear I have
    ever seen.  can I assume that washing with fresh water will save my
    gear?
    
    TBW 
179.9Use vinegar to clean salt water corrosionKOLFAX::WHITMANAcid Rain Burns my BassThu May 21 1992 12:4327
Gary,

<    I bought a license
    
   it's about time

<    ...
<    btw, these surfcastin types have the UGLIEST most coroded gear I have
<    ever seen.  can I assume that washing with fresh water will save my
<    gear?
    
	This doesn't exactly tell you how to prevent getting the scuz to begin
with, which was your question I believe, but after you've been caught neglecting
your tackle this will help clean it up.

	About 20 years ago I had the privilege of scuba diving with some UDT
guys off an LST (USS Boulder I think).  Anyway we were using some club
equipment that had an unsightly amout of the green scuz (corrosion) that poorly
maintained saltwater equipment grows.  These UDT guys about had a 'cow' when
they saw the corrosion and proceeded to show us how to clean it (UDT guys are
just like Marines, "they'd rather spit polish shoes than f#@k"). 

	Take the gear apart and boil it in vinegar.  They said that on the ship
they used a stronger solution than standard vinegar, but the principle was the
same it just took a little longer. 

Al
179.10Muriatic acid works well, tooGEMVAX::JOHNHCThu May 21 1992 13:2622
    Or you can use muriatic acid mixed with freshwater in a 1:10 ratio.
    Drop the corroded parts in and watch the bubbles pop to the surface.
    When the bubbling has stopped, pull the parts out with tweezers or
    pliars and drop them into another container of water saturated with
    baking soda. Swish the parts around in the baking soda and, once you're
    sure the acid has been neutralized, drop the parts into pure
    freshwater. Swish them around in the freshwater until you're sure
    you've gotten all the soda off them, then pull them out to dry in the
    air.
    
    You might feel more comfortable wearing forearm-protective rubber
    gloves and eye shields. If so, please wear them.
    
    This is the way scuba shops clean corroded gear. (Remove all rubber
    parts, such as o-rings, before submerging the corroded part in the acid
    wash.) It's fast, safe (if done right), and it leaves the gear looking
    as clean or cleaner than it did brand new.
    
    FWIW 
    
    John H-C
                                                       
179.11AIDEV::PUISHYSBob PuishysThu May 21 1992 13:577
Lets get back to the point at hand.  TBDW fished without the proper permit!!

He KEEP ED A SHORT AND EAT IT.  what happened to caught and release bdw?

I will not even talk about the short.  I am so disapointed in you :^(

Bassin Bob, who will never admit to letting the BDW in his boat :^)
179.12What does BDW mean?GEMVAX::JOHNHCThu May 21 1992 14:351
    
179.13JUPITR::NEALThu May 21 1992 15:0312
    Glad to hear you got the licence......now let the shorts go :-). 
    
    BDW, to answer the question about rinsing with fresh water. It 
    works for me. I dont use my salt stuff too often, but my 4 year old
    cod stick and reel still look good. I rince it off when I get home.
    Not the day after. No matter how cocked you get just make sure you
    rince off the gear. I'm sure that will give you further life. 
    
    As for casting, you dont have to cast the furthest to catch the fish.
    bass stay close to the shore too. 
    
    Rich
179.14light spray and wd40GNPIKE::HANNANBeyond description...Thu May 21 1992 15:1016
>    BDW, to answer the question about rinsing with fresh water. It 
>    works for me. I dont use my salt stuff too often, but my 4 year old
>    cod stick and reel still look good. I rince it off when I get home.
>    Not the day after. No matter how cocked you get just make sure you
>    rince off the gear. I'm sure that will give you further life. 

	Very true.   I rinse all my gear after every trip, same day,
	no matter how tired I am.  Same with cleaning and freezing
	the filets.  

	One thing that's recommended is not to use water with a lot of
	force because it supposedly drives the salt into the internals
	of the reel.  Just a very light spray or flow will do.
	Then I finish it off with a light spray of WD40.

	Ken
179.1511SRUS::LUCIAThe less I seek my source for some definitiveThu May 21 1992 15:553
I spray the rods and reels with the hose at the dock.  I put the nozzle on the 
medium spray, not the solid stream.  The reels came out pretty salt free this
winter... (FYI)
179.16How about the tide questionSWAM1::WIERSUM_GAThu May 21 1992 17:0011
    
    
    Johny, Johny, Johny!
    
    You don't get ou much do you?
    
    Just ask anyone
    
    TBDW
    TBW
    
179.17Huh?GEMVAX::JOHNHCThu May 21 1992 17:323
    Well, TBW=The Beach Wizard I just got out of the basenote.
    
    What tide question?