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       avon skin so soft
       
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     be a man and take the skeeter bites along with the fish bites 8(::
    
    

    They don't in general seem to bother me.
    
    My wife on the other hand likes skin so soft, and usually over does
    it.
    
    So well that i stay away from her as well.
    
    I cannot stand the smell of it. Can't describe it but, but the odor
    is very strong.
    
    JIm

    I've heard Vanilla Extract works for repelling black-flies.  Has anyone
    else heard this or tried it.  I generally don't use anything.  I tried
    skin-so-soft once but didn't notice any difference, before and after.
    
    
    
    
    Try consuming large amounts of beer a couple hours before going out.
    
    						 :-)

    
       My opinion REPEL you can't beat. I've tried skin-so-soft and
     others, but nothin works like repel. It cost some $$$ but for
     me it works great! 
    
                                                 K'

    Is there anything that "WORKS" that doesn't melt plastic? Every
    bug repelant I have seen melts fishing gear. How good can this stuff
    be for your skin if melts plastic?
    
    I have used the skin so soft with ok results, but it stinks.
    
    Rich

    
    My wife was telling me yesterday that skin-so-soft has been taken
    off of the market. She said that there was something toxic in it.
    
    					Jim

	Good question on what works with fishing.  The scent of
	bug juice like DEET or Skin-so-soft, especially the latter,
	must not be good if it gets onto the lures.  Skin-so-soft
	might work, but the stench is hard to bear.  And DEET melts
	plastics - I had deet all over my skin, including my ears,
	and it distorted the plastic on the telephone when I picked 
	it up!

	There must be a better way.

	I've heard that if you eat a lot of garlic that it helps.
	It supposedly works with dogs to repel fleas too.  But then
	again it may repel humans too ;-)

	Ken

         I use vitamin B1. You have to start taking it about a week before
         you are planning a trip, but it will definately keep the skeeters
         off. It will also create a faint odor on your skin, but it is
         definately better smelling than Skin-so-soft.
    
                                                             -Tim-

    What kind of dosages of B1 do you take?
    
    As I read your reply, I realized it was indeed B1 rather than B6 that I
    had heard repelled mosquitoes and people.
    
    Thanks.
    
    John H-C

	I hear that garlic capsules work well also but I don't know how many you
have to consume or how long before you go out that you have to start taking 
them. During black fly and skeeter seasons is the only time that I regret
quitting smoking. Back when I smoked all I had to do was grab a nice big cigar
like a Macanudo Portofino on my way out of the house and it would keep the bugs
(and most people 8-)) away for better than an hour. 

Barry

    When I worked as a Mechanic, the bugs never bothered me.  I think that
    it was because of the oil smell in my skin.  After leaving that
    profession, the bugs won't leave me along.  I use skin-so-soft and it
    seems to work for me, can't stand the smell of off, 6-12, etc.
    
    When I'm in the boat around Plum island, the greenheads really kill me
    for a couple weeks during the year.  However, they leave my wife along. 
    I think the difference is that she puts on sun tan lotion as soon as we
    are at the dock -- Georgio spf 24.
    
    Gordon

       
        "Skin-so-Soft" allegedly has more harmful chemicals in it than 100%
    DEET...and yer all correct---that stuff stinks so bad my DOGS won't
    even come near me if I use it!! I tried it once, and was nauseated by
    the stench of it...
    
        100% DEET works, but if it's 90 degrees and you're sweating a lot,
    you have to keep putting it on every hour or so cause you'll sweat it
    off.
    
        The SIMPLEST way to get Vitamin B-6 (Hadn't heard about B-1, would
    appreciate some documentaion sources on that one...) is to buy some
    "Brewers Yeast" at a "rite aid", CVS, or similar. Comes in pills and
    powder form. It also has a lot of other beneficial vitamins andminerals
    in it, so it's good for you anyway. Brewers Yeast is about 50% B-6, and
    if you take it every day for about a month or so before the bug season,
    you'll build up enough to discourage insects. It will NOT stop all
    biting, but it reduces it a whole lot. I guess there are bugs that have
    no sense of smell just like there are people..
    
      Also...B-6 has NO effect on the way YOU smell....it MAY be that you
    need a change in your deodorant...or a bath now and then...
    
    
       John Mc

    You can buy them at your local pharmacy, and you take a couple a day
    about a week before planning a trip. If you go out like every weekend,
    just keep taking them all summer long, or until the skeeters freeze!!!
    
                                                              -Tim-
    

    re: .12
    
    Yeah, I guess you're probably right. I probably just need to get wet
    more often.
    
    <g>
    
    John H-C

    Day's Work or Brown Mule chewing tobacco. Just chew it a while and then
    smear it over your arms and legs. Works every time.
    
    If you have trouble with the chewing, try cutting it with some crunchy
    peanut butter.
    
    Coonass
    

Gidday from New Zealand.
 
No helpful tips about bug repellent. Each brand of bug seems to have its 
own individual dislikes. However, here is a bug story from Down Under.

Near Greymouth in the South Island (a place renowned for the size and
ferocity of its sand-flies) two sand-flies caught and killed a sheep on
the mountainside about a mile from the beach. Said one fly to the other
"It's a beautiful day for a picnic. Let's take this sheep down to the beach
and eat it there"
"No", said his friend. "We'll eat it here"
"Why?", said the first sand-fly.
"Use your head, stupid" replied his friend. "If we take the sheep to the
beach, the big fellows will take it away from us"  

Regards,

Chris Davies

       Re .16
    
       Sheesh!! I heard of "plagiarism", but youse "Kiwis" take the PRIZE!!
    
      That's a BLATANT distortion of the Northern Minnesota mosquito
    story.... Only difference was that the 2 mosquitoes broke into a cabin
    and were discussing whether they would take the fisherman who was
    sleeping there back to their home or eat him there...
    
    
       Re .15....
    
       If you swallow a couple of good mouthfulls of that tobacco juice,
    it'' kill any worms you may have too....among other things..
    
      John Mc

    	re: Skin-so-soft
    
    	It has no effect on mosquitos, only black flies. It does not repell
    the black flies, it just keeps them from biting you. That may be why it
    doesn't seem to work.
    
    	RAYJ

    re: skin-so-soft
    
    I was digging the garden last evening and had sss on.  The mosquitos
    were buzzing around but not biting.  I even had them walking on my arms
    looking for a place with no sss to the could bite.
    
    gordon
    

    	re:-1
    
    	We must have a hardier version of mosquito by us then because SSS
    made no difference (that I could see) in the amount of mosquito bites I
    or my kids have gotten.
    
    	Fortunately, DEET seems to do the trick.
    
    
    	RAYJ

 I used Ben's 100 last night and I was not bothered at all.

    Whats the prediction on inquine insefelitis (sp) this year?
    Are the experts saying people will get infected this year
    or don't they have anyway of knowing before hand?
    
    And if it does stat again I hope their not going to try spraying
    again! I don't think that did anything but kill a bunch of birds
    and Lord knows what it did to the fish.
    
    They say they didn't spray over water but many witnessess said they 
    did!!!
    
                                         Scott.
    

 It's eastern equine encephalitis, and this year may be a good year (few cases)
due to the lack of excessive wetness so far. It's the wet weather that provides
the best breeding for mosquitos.

    This past Memorial Day weekend my girlfriend got sunburned and applied
    cocoa butter to relieve the pain and prevent peeling.  The blackflies 
    were brutal that afternoon into the evening.  None of them even came
    close to her.

    
    I heard that the reason Skin So Soft works isn't because of any
    chemical in it, necessarily, but that it coats the skin with oil which
    drowns the insects before they can actually bite.  I also heard, that
    based on that information, any oil based skin lotion will work.  Like
    baby oil...
    
    jean
    

    Somewhere I read that the SSS thing is exactly as described in .-1.  (On
    the other hand note that Avon makes no attempt to pass it off as an
    insect repellent).  A test was done with SSS vs DEET and they found that
    the big difference was that SSS only lasted about an hour (until the
    oil wore off) whereas DEET-based sprays lasted 4-5 times longer.

    SEE YOUR LOCAL UNDERTAKER, THEY USE SOME STUFF THAT WORKS GREAT. I WAS
    GIVEN A SPRAY CAN OF THIS A FEW YEARS AGO BY A PERSON I MET ON THE THE
    RIVER, SO HAPPENDS HE WAS A UNDERTAKER. HE DID MENTION THAT YOU COULD
    ONLY GET IT FROM A MORTITION SUPPLY HOUSE.. PLUS IT WAS ODERLESS. HAY
    IF YOU ARE GOING OUT    WHY HAVE BUGS ON YOU..
    

    	Just a thought but if this stuff is made for dead people, they don't
    need to worry about what they put in it (i.e. harmful side affects).
    
    	RAYJ