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Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

168.0. "Plastic baits" by DELNI::OTA () Mon May 04 1992 11:13

    Has anyone out there had success using plastic lizards or salamanders. 
    I tried last year rigging them texas style and popping them along the
    bottom but had no success.  Does anyone use them carolina rig or float
    them on the surface.  What about color?
    
    I understand they are good spring baits and would like to learn how to
    use them.
    
    Brian
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168.1"Redneck Fever!!!JUPITR::BUTCHNo Shortcut Too ShortTue May 05 1992 15:519
    Hi Brian
    	My favorite bassin' lure is called the "Redneck" made by Rebel. 
    It looks like a salamander. Usually pink or purple depending on 
    water conditions. I don't think one has ever made it past an occupied
    bed. They ruin it. I rig them Texas style and use it both along the 
    bottom and across weedbeds and lilypads. I can't say enough about
    these. 
    
    				Butch 
168.2Confidence!DPDMAI::BOWMANLARRY BOWMANWed May 06 1992 13:1517
    Brian
    
    So, you're not having much luck with plastic baits?  The next time you
    go to the lake do not take anything but plastics.  Don't take
    crankbaits, spinnerbaits, topwaters or any other bait- just fish with
    plastics.  Learn to develop a feel for the contours and surroundings
    you are fishing.  Over a period of time, your confidence in the lure
    will increase and so will the number of bass you land. 
    
    Plastics are unquestionalbly the best way to go for bass.  Color or
    type of rig (Texas or Carolina) is not as important as the confidence
    you possess.  
    
    Good Luck!
    
    Larry
                                            
168.3DELNI::OTAWed May 06 1992 13:5015
    Yo Larry
    
    Not sure how you interpreted my note as to not having luck with
    plastics.  The only plastic I have not had luck with is Lizards.
    Since I have heard they are great spring baits I was hoping for
    pointers like Coonasses.  I agree with your confidence thing, however I
    use all types of lures when I fish until I find the pattern and then I
    tend to start zeroing in.  While plastic baits make up a big part of my
    arsenal, I use cranks, spinners and jigs with conditions warrant.
    
    Coonass I used alka seltzer last year in a kangoroo pouch worm.  I was
    the only one to catch bass that day.  So alka seltzer really works when
    all else fails.
    
    Brian
168.4Opps!DPDMAI::BOWMANLARRY BOWMANThu May 07 1992 11:419
    Brian
    
    My apologies- thought you were new to plastics.  Never heard much about
    alka seltzer.
    
    Larry
    
    
    
168.5lizardsDONMAC::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerThu May 07 1992 13:2114
    Brian, 
    
    I used them down at Santee-Cooper this spring with pretty good success,
    both on the carolina rig and texas rigged with slip sinker.  I used
    Culprit pumpkin salamanders.  Not convived they work any better or
    worse than similar size worms, but they do work.  Down at Santee we
    were fishing in about 7' of water over clumps of hydrilla and millfoil.
    
    Up here I don't toss them too often.  I like the idea of fishing them 
    real shallow during real early prespawn when the fish sometimes move up 
    into a foot or so of water that's been warmed by the sun.  I tried this 
    for awhile at the NH open at Pawtuckaway last weekend without much luck. 
    
    -donmac
168.6The Amazing Flying Lure..!KAHALA::PRESTONOoh de lally!Tue Aug 11 1992 12:2632
    Man, I haven't been in here for a while -- between work and kids and
    home and school and even a stint in the hospital I guess I've been away
    from fishing too much this year! School's over this week (yeah, I even 
    go to summer school!), finally, so like Arnold says, "I'll be back!"
    
    Anyway, has anyone here tried the (supposedly) revolutionary new FLYING 
    LURE, which has been touted as the latest magical fish-buster in 1/2 hour
    infomercials on the cable channels?
    
    Briefly, the flying lure is a plastic bait that resembles a flattened-
    out gitzit, but is rigged backwards so that the hook protrudes from the
    front of the lure and line is tied to an eye in the back, by the
    fringe. When you cast it, it is supposed to glide through the water
    like a little airplane, away from you, and, whoop-de-doo, under 
    structure that you couldn't reach before!! Right where the fish are!!
    
    The infomercial, I hate to say, is pretty convincing in some spots,
    since the use the guy from, is it, Rod and Reel Streamside, or
    something like that, who raves about it. They show him actually
    catching a HUGE smallmouth bass with the flying lure on his very 
    own show. Then they interview the inventor as though he were some
    world-renowned doctor who just found a cure for the aging process..
    
    Yeah, I bought a few at the fishing show in Worcester this spring,
    but all my success, such as it is this year, has been with grubs and
    worms, but I've been out very little so far...
    
    Anyone else had success with this latest hot lure?
    
    Ed
    
    
168.7MRKTNG::TOMASJOE TOMAS @TTBTue Aug 11 1992 12:5021
Ed,

I picked up a pack or two of the flying lure a year ago as they intrigued 
me.  The idea of casting to a dock or bed of lilly pads and have the lure 
glide under the structure sounded like a great concept.

In actual use, I found that 1) you must maintain a fairly tight line to 
guide it away from you.  With a slack line, it can go almost anywhere; and 
2) when retrieved at a high speed, it will twist unbelievably!  If my target 
is a dock, after working the bait out 5-10' from the dock, I'm basically 
done with the cast.  I then retrieve my lure at high speed for the next 
cast, not wanting to waste time over unproductive water.  You can't do that 
with the flying lure.

So...no, I haven't caught fish with it yet, and yes, it's been relagated to 
somewhere deep down in one of my tackle boxes, probably never to see the 
light of day again unless someone can convince me that it's worthwhile 
(yeah...I saw the same show you did with the big smallie.  Sorry...that's 
not enough for me to deal with line twist).

-HSJ-
168.8dittosKOLFAX::WHITMANAcid Rain Burns my BassTue Aug 11 1992 18:1329
<In actual use, I found that 1) you must maintain a fairly tight line to 
<guide it away from you.  With a slack line, it can go almost anywhere; and 
<2) when retrieved at a high speed, it will twist unbelievably!  If my target 
<is a dock, after working the bait out 5-10' from the dock, I'm basically 
<done with the cast.  I then retrieve my lure at high speed for the next 
<cast, not wanting to waste time over unproductive water.  You can't do that 
<with the flying lure.

<So...no, I haven't caught fish with it yet, and yes, it's been relagated to 
<somewhere deep down in one of my tackle boxes, probably never to see the 
<light of day again unless someone can convince me that it's worthwhile 
<<(yeah...I saw the same show you did with the big smallie.  Sorry...that's 
<not enough for me to deal with line twist).


   I bought some about 4 years ago at the Woodstock Fair in Woodstock, Ct.
and had exactly the same experience Hole'shot expressed in re .-1.  My biggest
hang up was that you had to be real careful when casting the lure or it would
land in the water at whatever angle and then plane off in that direction. 
Flipping and short pitches seemed to work best as far as being able to maintain
the control you needed.

   I believe the lure has promise and it does act more or less the way it was
advertised, but it's a lure you need to practice with ALOT before it will do
much for you.  Fishing is NOT the time to fool around with this bait, after the
first couple mis-casts ol' bucketmouth is gone.


Al
168.9purge tackle box againKAHALA::PRESTONOoh de lally!Mon Aug 17 1992 12:566
    Just another revolutionary new bait that works no better than all the
    other revolutionary new baits..!
    
    Ed