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Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

159.0. "Hydrofoil Stabilizers- Good Investment??" by DPDMAI::BOWMAN (LARRY BOWMAN) Tue Apr 21 1992 17:23

    Has anyone tried one of the hydrofoil stablizers, such as the Stingray,
    on your outboard?  I'm curious if they really improve performance,
    stability etc..
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159.1RE: 162...yes!SALEM::JUNGhalf day?->Wed Apr 22 1992 09:3310
    I don't have a hydrafoil but my Fish-On trolling plate acts just like
    one, when it's in the up position. My motor is an 88hp, I also had one
    on a 25 Merc. 
    
    It *WILL* make your boat jump up on plane in half the time and it
    *WILL* eliminate porpoising/bow hop. I would strongly recommend(sp)
    one for any motor.
    
                              Jeff (Captain)
                              Team Starcraft
159.2Still have a few concernsDPDMAI::BOWMANLARRY BOWMANWed Apr 22 1992 12:1228
    Thanks for the info. Jeff, but I still have some concerns:
    
    1) I have a small 12 foot flat-bottom Jon boat w/ a 8hp Johnson (1 yr. old
    engine).  In a attempt to reach bass in isolated areas, particularly in
    the Spring, I often navigate through a foot of water in circumstances
    involving standing timber.   In this type of a situation, when I have
    my engine set on shallow water drive, will it make the stern of the
    boat dig down and produce poorer bottom clearance?
    
    2) Will I be able to lift the bow of the boat in a situation involving
    strong winds on open water and still get back to shore?  Wind speeds
    average 15-25 mph in Texas and conditions can change rapidly to
    hazardous straight-line winds- wind speeds in well in excess of 25 mph
    - a gut wrenching situation in a boat of this size or any other
    freshwater boat for that mater.
    
    3) Damage to lower unit from underwater objects.  Once again, a typical
    situation in Texas- standing timber, fence post, barbed wire- many of
    the man made lakes around here are not cleared- the land is simply
    flooded.
    
    4) Drilling four holes in my lower unit to accomadate the hydrofoil-
    What if I don't like it?
    
    Just trying to weigh the pro's and con's before purchase...
    
    Larry
           
159.3I was born in Waco........SALEM::JUNGhalf day?->Wed Apr 22 1992 15:468
    Larry, 
    
            I don't think you would gain much benefits on your 8 hp.
    On the other hand, it wouldn't hurt either. Have you considered
    an "air boat"! Just kiddin.......
    
                                    Jeff (Captain)
                                    Team Starcraft
159.4Texas TransplantDPDMAI::BOWMANLARRY BOWMANWed Apr 22 1992 16:2914
    An air boat?...Now there's an idea.  Seriously, this is my first boat
    and certainly won't be my last- hope to move up to a larger boat later-
    if my wife and I can agree on the type of boat- When we go to a boat
    show or dealer, the first feature she looks for is a cup holder and boat
    capable of holding a boat load of Cuban refugees.  Somehow this is not
    the vessel I visualize.
    
    Anyway, I have found this boat to be highly versitile and suits my
    needs at this time.  The boat is surprisingly fast given the eight
    ponies under the cover.  Thought I might pick up a few more m.p.h.
    using the hydrofoil.  Seen them advertised a lot, but haven't seen them
    on any boats locally.
    
    Larry
159.5Foils Lift & Work!UNYEM::FRASCHWed Apr 22 1992 17:2611
    Larry,
    
    The stern won't dig down! The foil actually lifts the stern up, which
    should help with the stumps. I have a 19' I/O that comes up "level"
    rather than nose up using a foil.
     If you move from one boat to another, you can take it off and remount
    it on your next one. Put a couple of plugs/caps in the old holes, and
    who cares!
    
    Good luck,
    Don
159.6Take the FREEBIEMADCAP::ORLOWSKIThu Apr 23 1992 12:5810
    I have a similar situation (Bow Hop) and I came within seconds of
    buying a Hydro-foil for my 40HP. I called the dealer (Green's Marine in 
    Hooksett) and they are going to put Trim Tabs on the boat for FREE.
    They claim the boat is causing the problem (FM161).
    
    They did claim the problem could also be corrected by using a
    Hydro-Foil on the engine,,,but I'll take the FREEBIE for now..
    
                                   -�teve �.
    Foils do lift,,,but so should Power Trim
159.7ELWOOD::CARLINBalanceThu Apr 23 1992 16:267
I put one of these on the boat I used to have (had to sell a couple or 
threee years ago -- the wonders and pleasures of divorce). I used it 
instead of power trim, which was much more expensive, but reportedly works 
better (you can regulate how much lift you get for differing conditions). 
The stabilizer worked well; my boat would plane much more quickly. 

leo
159.8do any good???AIMHI::BORZUMATOFri Apr 24 1992 09:036
    
    I have an inflatable with an 8hp yam, would it help to put
    one of these on the  motor...
    
    
    JIm
159.9I small amount....sure!SALEM::JUNGhalf day?->Fri Apr 24 1992 12:081
    
159.10say whatAIMHI::BORZUMATOFri Apr 24 1992 12:524
    
    RE:.9  Dear kind sir, are you responding to.8
    
    .8
159.11CREATV::QUODLINGKen, Me, and a cast of extras...Fri Apr 24 1992 13:197
    re .8
    
    Yeah, it'll make sure that it follows a strighter line to the bottom
    when it sinks...
    
    q:-)
    
159.12HPSRAD::RHUFFMon Apr 27 1992 11:5810
    
    	This hydrofoil is going to slow you down a bit.  I just bought
    the Attwood Gullwing and I am very happy with it.  It sits on a 90
    hp Evinrude which is on the back of a 15' bass boat.  I plane out
    so fast now that it's much safer.  Before I would go to full throttle
    and lose sight of what's in front of me.  Now the Attwood gets me on
    plane in a fraction of the time and I don't lose sight of what's in
    front of me.  I have lost 5 mph with the Attwood.
    
    	Rod
159.13Trim it upDECWET::HELSELLegitimate sporting purposeMon Apr 27 1992 13:168
    re .12:
    
    Hmmmm....Do you have power tilt and trim.  I can usually trim my boat
    up and pick up about 3-4 mph.  When I get it right on plan I think I'm
    drafting about 5" of water.   
    
    /brett
    
159.14Added performance to my 70HPSALEM::MAZEROLLEMon May 11 1992 14:206
    Hi, I added some "wings" last year and found it added 3-4 MPH as well.
    I also agree with the statement/s on getting onto plane much quicker as
    well. I have the DOEL FINS, which I think work very well considering
    the price.
    
    Don
159.15 no thanks to hydra foilsASABET::D_DAVOLLFri May 22 1992 09:278
    
      Just to shade some light on the other side of the spectrum, I bought
    a hydra-foil and found it was dangerous on my Ranger. It seemed that it
    would get up on plane better, but I had a problem in rought weather. I
    used to be able to plane up on top of the waves, but with the hydra
    foil it limited the amount of trim. Therefore I was going through more
    waves than over them. Therefore no thanks for the hydra foil.
                  Dick
159.16AIDEV::PUISHYSBob PuishysFri May 22 1992 10:215
What size ranger?  I have one of those fins on mine.  When I plane out the fin is
not even in the water.  I have had people drive and I have looked over the
back deck. Once I am on plane it is out of the water!

Bassin Bob
159.17not meASABET::D_DAVOLLFri May 22 1992 13:265
      My Ranger is a 372 with a 150 merc. I am told if the engine is
    properly mounted the dehydral (sp) is suppose to be even with the
    water. If your stabilizer is out of water than you engine is to high,
    this is probably the reason you have not run into the trouble I have.
     
159.18Gimble Problems?BOGUSS::NAJJARThu Nov 05 1992 16:576
    I've been seriously considering adding a hydro-foil to my 165 hp. Merc.
    on a 19' Glastron trihull which I use on both fresh and salt water, but
    have heard murmmerings of long term problems, such as wear and tear on
    the gimbles.  The Merc. is an I/O.  Does anyone have any info on this?
    
    Wally