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Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

158.0. "Rod Holders" by WAHOO::LEVESQUE (Cast to the rise...) Fri Apr 17 1992 15:14

 I bought a rod holder that I can clamp onto the canoe or another boat
that should be helpful for trolling and fishing more than one rod. I think
the manufacturer was something like "Downeast Outfitters" or some such.

 It's sturdily built, and very adjustable. I wanted something that would
hold the rod more nearly parallel to the water for trolling. One of the
features that is appealing about this holder is that you just pick up
the rod and it comes out of the holder; the issue of the rod getting stuck
does not seem to be as big as with some of the tube style holders. I'm
eager to try this sucker out, especially since I got a release for flat
lining. Trolling should definitely be easier this year. I just hope it'll
also work for my flyrod.

 Has anybody else felt the need for a third hand to hold the rod while
paddling (trolling)? How did you solve the problem? I've always been concerned
that I'd be losing a rod and reel over the side if anything of any size
took my lure.

 The Doctah
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158.1Downeaster's a good choice.HYEND::POPIENIUCKFri Apr 17 1992 16:1922
    Hey Doc,
    I've used those Downeast holders for years in my canoe as well as on
    my SeaNymph.  I have fixed holders on the 'Nymph, but the Downeasters
    allow me to stick a holder here or there as required.
    
    Couple hints.  Keep the clamp screws lightly oiled.  They are made with
    a fairly cheap metal alloy and can get corroded fairly easily.  They
    they bind and are a bear to screw/unscrew.
    
    For clamping them to something thin, like the thinckness of the canoe
    hull, you might want to cut a couple strips of wood to place between
    the hull and the clamps.
    
    Those Downeasters are great for the money.  They can be adjusted to
    have the rod in about any position you want and also get the rod tip
    the maximum distance from the boat/canoe.
    
    Properly fastened, I've never had one come even the slightest bit loose
    from the boat.  It's nice to be able to swap them from boat to canoe
    and back again in a couple minutes too.  Good choice.
    
    Pete  (moosehead lake in 26 days!  Come on ice-out!)
158.2SALEM::PAPPALARDOFri Apr 17 1992 17:5710
    
    I'll second the use and excellent quality of the "DownEast" rod
    holders. I've been using them for about 6 years now and have no
    complaints. I've seen them in a lot of stores but Zyla's in Merrimack
    seemed to have the best price.
    
    
                                                    Guy
    
    
158.3Let the drag screeeeeeeeeem!SALEM::JUNGhalf day?->Fri Apr 17 1992 18:237
    re: base note
    
    You will not have to worry about losing everything when the big fish
    takes the lure as long as the drag is set properly. 
    
                                 Jeff (Captain)
                                 Team Starcraft
158.4re: .3GEMVAX::JOHNHCFri Apr 17 1992 19:2517
    Jeff ---
    
    How does one set the drag "properly?"
    
    I normally catch just bass, perch, pickerel, and the occasional
    oversized shiner, so I have never had the drag come into use with one
    of those. The one time I hooked a lake trout, the drag did come into
    use, but that was because I had set it too light as an experiment. (I
    reset the drag while the fish was hooked by opening the spool and
    letting the fish run. I happened to know the bottom right there and
    knew there was nothing for the fish to wrap the line around.) 
    
    So, how does one go about setting the drag correctly?
    
    Thanks.
    
    John H-C
158.5you should be able to pull line out by handSALEM::JUNGhalf day?->Sat Apr 18 1992 10:4235
    It basically depends on the size of the line your using.
    
    You might have just bought a $15 Zebco that came pre-spooled with
    12 pound test. Setting the drag properly is probably not real important
    in this case if you are catching fish in the 1-3 pound category. With
    12 pound test you can just about "winch in" anything that comes along.
    
    Now, if you are loaded up with say, 4 or 6 pound test and a 5 pound
    smallmouth takes your bait, this is where your drag comes into play.
    If it's set too tight (meaning the line is extremely hard to pull out
    of the reel) and that smallie decides to take a run, there is a good
    chance of a break-off (meaning you never see your lure again). If it's
    set too loose then you won't be able to get a good hook-set and/or
    you won't be able to reel it in. 
    
    In the case in point, you want to set your drag so when the fish grabs
    your lure and decides to take a "run" he will pull line out of your
    reel instead of pulling your rod,reel, and rod holder off the side of
    your boat. It would be better to have your drag too loose than too
    tight. 
    
    The term "screaming drag" simply means that the fish is pulling line
    out of your reel at a healthy rate.
    
    One more thing:: Testing has shown that ordinary drags "peak" just
    before they release line on the initial strike. Although this peak
    lasts only for a fraction of a second, the stress applied can be almost 
    double the actual drag setting.
    
    Hope this helps...
    
                                       Jeff (Captain)
                                       Team Starcraft
    
    
158.6WAHOO::LEVESQUECast to the rise...Tue Apr 21 1992 11:0410
>    You will not have to worry about losing everything when the big fish
>    takes the lure as long as the drag is set properly. 

 That was only an issue when I didn't have any rod holder at all and just laid
the rod against the gunwale.

 I used the rod holder yesterday. It works really well, and I think it was
worth every penny.

 The Doctah
158.711SRUS::LUCIASweet Dream II Sportfishing ChartersTue Apr 21 1992 13:079
My experience is more tilted to the salt, but should apply also to sweet water.
The drag should be set about 1/3 of the unknotted line strength.  Now, when
fishing for bass, the following is not that significant.  However, for big game
fish (which tend to pull LOTS of line off the reel) it is:  Be aware that the
more line that is out, the more drag is put on the fish.  If the fish has 100
yards of line, the fish is pulling that line through the water, which has a
pretty good amount of drag independent of the reel.

Tim
158.8setting the dragLEVERS::SWEETTue Apr 21 1992 13:185
    
    Always mesure the drag setting at the rod tip (use a scale, put rod in
    holder and pull line, read scale) not at the reel.
    
    Bruce