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Title:Fishing-V2: All About Angling
Notice:Time to go fishin'! dayegins
Moderator:WAHOO::LEVESQUE
Created:Fri Jul 19 1991
Last Modified:Wed Jun 04 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:548
Total number of notes:9621

118.0. "Icefishing Reports" by CIMNET::KANDERSON () Thu Jan 23 1992 12:35

    Hello Everybody!
    
    This conference seems to be dead this winter.  I didn't find anything on
    WHAT'S BEING CAUGHT ICE FISHING. I found alot about gear and conditions
    but nothing on FISH.  I am either looking in the wrong place, there's
    nobody ice fishing, or there is nothing being caught to speak of.
    
    Well, which is it?!  I am axious to hear about those cold, SUCCESSFUL
    days.   All right, maybe not successful but a bit of excitement out
    there?
    
    Kelly
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118.1The one we,DIDN'T CATCH !!!!GWYNED::MILANOFri Jan 24 1992 11:5416
    Kelly,
    
       I went fishing last Saturday at Whitehall in Hopkinton.We caught a
    couple of pickerel,an 18" and 12".This local fisherman,who lives up the
    road from the lake show up about 4 hours and 15 holes after us he
    ended up fishing with us for the day.Wouldn't you know it,he drilled 3
    holes,20 ft. from shore,got two of his three tip-ups in the water and
    BANG!!!! his first flag goes up,it had to be only about 15-30 min.after
    he got there.Here's the killer,he pulled out a 37",18lb PIKE !!!! you
    talk about luck,he set up about 10 ft closer to shore than we did and
    right in front of us.We got pictures of it for proof.
    
    			Some people have all the luck..... 
    
    
    				Kevin
118.2You missed something there.MPGS::MASSICOTTEFri Jan 24 1992 13:018
    
    It's better know as  "SKILL".
    
    Don't believe *ME*, just go and ask *HIM*.
    
    :^)
    
    Fred
118.3Put time in and catch the biggen (ya right)...XLIB::ALLINSONThe GuideMon Jan 27 1992 12:1515
    
    
    
          Re: There for a half hour and first flag a slab Pike....
    
    
          It was probably Frank (right Kel?).I was at Lake Urine
          last week setup reel early, around noon some guys came 
          and setup not far from me half hour later 34" Northern
          about 11 pounds was put on the ice by them and me still
          their til dark with my thumb in a precarious position.
          
    
    
                                           The Keg
118.4That's a fat fish!CIMNET::KANDERSONMon Jan 27 1992 15:277
    RE: 118.1
    
    That must have been a fat fish! only 37" and 18 lbs.  I caught a fish a
    few years ago 15.2 lbs and 39" length 17" girth -- so that fish's girth 
    must have been at least 20-21".  
             
    Kel 
118.5You were right Keg, somewhat...CIMNET::KANDERSONMon Jan 27 1992 15:5325
    RE: 181.3
    
    Keg,
    
    Yeah, your're right well, close anyway.  An older man came down to the
    lake not knowing how to ice fish and Frank (without even knowing it) 
    coached him about where to set up, how etc. flag went up and it WAS a
    pike then once again Frank coached him every step of the way (he's good
    at that, right Keg) and he landed.....but the sad thing was HE KEPT IT!  
    
    I also heard there was another one caught about that size the same week
    and that was KEPT also.  
    
    Soooooo Keg, shall I sicken you NOW by this weekends catch or should I
    wait tomorrow and give you at least one full day of work under your
    belt after your week of ....... 
    
    was it called ice fishing?
    
    Kel
    
    p.s. for those of you who don't know who Frank is - he's my fiancee who
    conviently has most of the winter off to enter derby's and frantically fish
    for Pike so I will probably be telling you more of what he caught than
    what I caught seeing he is out ther 7 out or 7.
118.6Keep it up,Kel.....XLIB::ALLINSONThe GuideMon Jan 27 1992 16:0919
    
    
    
        Re: Kel...
    
        Spare me Kel I had a rough week of ice something.I went to Maine
        and caught more fish in one day than I did in four daze at Lake
        Urine! It keeps up like this and I'll be headin back to Maine
        for Lakers although its only two tilts per license makes for
        easier setup and you can drive to your tilts.......
    
    
    
                                now thats fishn!
    
    
    
    
                                        T.K.
118.7NOT a good scene...CIMNET::KANDERSONMon Jan 27 1992 16:5738
    o.k. Keg, I will spare you -- but just for today.....I tell tomorrow
    about a "good catch"
    
    Speaking of driving to your tilts.....
    
    Did any of you hear about what happened yesterday on Webster Lake.  I
    was out in Oxford visiting my parents for the weekend and decided to
    fish Webster Lake but didn't arrive until about noon.  Took my younger
    brother with me and when we got the spot we were going to fish I told
    me brother not to go "over there" at all!  because it wasn't safe (just
    about a 10 ft area on the WHOLE lake, rest was about 5 inches) so we
    started setting up and I looked over and saw a 3 wheeler heading toward
    us....I said "hey guys look at them" next thing ya know CLURPLUNK! 
    Right in that soft spot.....this was NOT Funny because it WASN't knee
    deep....I only saw one head come out of the water when I knew there
    were two.  Then the head was gone again......he went back under to find
    his little girl.  Finally came back up and we were there but she was
    unconscious and the father was panicing.  I was talking to him calming
    him down telling him we would help as he kept pushing himself off the
    bottom (about 8 ft) and up to the hole again to keep his daughter
    afloat.  We told him to toss her on his next jump and he did....but not
    on the safe part...it was very thin and she WAS NOT conscious.  I got
    very scared because I all set to do CPR on this child hoping to revive
    her.  Frank's fingers were almost touching hers but he was struggling so I 
    told him to grab her arm very quickly and slide her fast across the ice
    and he did.....as soon as he put his hand on her she came to....whining
    but still in shock.  The a few guys made a train of hands and feet
    ajoining to pull the father out.....in the meantime the ambulance still
    wasn't there.  We get the little girl stripped and covered in warm
    stuff but she was all differnt colors and her dad was starting to
    freeze like and icicle.  The cops etc came and I ran to shore to tell
    them what's going on and to guide them on the ice..... but they
    wouldn't step foot on it -- he said "We called the hovercraft (sp?)" in
    from Worcester.  Well, took another half hour for them to get there. 
    Then the finally got taken to the hospital.  What an experience, it was
    very scary!  
    
    Kel
118.8Cops Eat Their Young (Sometimes...)MRKTNG::VARLEYTue Jan 28 1992 09:0711
    Quick thinking, Kel, and a good job by you and "Mr. Pike." It was lucky
    you know CPR in case they needed it. I was pretty underwhelmed by the
    cops' actions (Per usual). I gotta believe that accidents like this
    happen (Unfortunately) a lot in this area, and if all they can do is
    call a hovercraft and hope it gets there in time to recover a body
    (Because you don't last long in water that cold), shame on them ! I'm
    not saying they should go out on thin ice and compound the problem, but
    you'd think that every cruiser in colder climes would have a big coil
    of strong rope for just such emergencies. Once again, good job !!
    
    --The Skoal Bandit
118.9DONMAC::MACINTYRETerminal AnglerTue Jan 28 1992 11:385
    Ditto, sounds like you folks did a great job - and the cops response
    was pretty criminal...
    
    -donmac
    
118.10Keep off the crack......XLIB::ALLINSONThe GuideTue Jan 28 1992 12:0716
    
    
    
           Way to go Kel! I tell ya if it wasn't for Ice Fisherpeople
           more people would not be recued on time.I read in the paper
           last night where two guys were fishing the Charles.A young lady
           was skating and went through.One got a rope while the other
           went to call the police.By the time the police got there
           the two pulled the lady out and she left.Most people take ice
           for granted when they see other people on it and think they
           can go anywhere.If you pay attention to the safety cracks in
           the ice ewe can tell whats safe and whats not.
    
    
    
                                                 The Keg
118.11what if the outcome was different? they are lucky!USRCV2::GEIBELLIN SEARCH OF ELUSIVE SALMONTue Jan 28 1992 12:1010
    
    
    
        Does Mass. have a duty to act law? if so I would venture a guess
    that this officer could face civil penalties for just standing there.,
    maybe a letter to the chief of police would be in order. at least it
    would let them know what really happened.
    
                                         Lee
    
118.13moderator nudgeWAHOO::LEVESQUEFailure is only a temporary inconvenienceTue Jan 28 1992 12:336
 Yeah, the police response is pretty woeful, but I'd like to keep this topic
related to Icefishing reports. Further discussion of the inefficacy of
the police response in this incident is best reserved for topic 22 (the 
rathole).

 The Doctah
118.14DisgracefulGOLF::WILSONTue Jan 28 1992 12:3314
    I'd have to agree, the cops should have some explaining to do.
    I grew up near lots of water for skating, and every one of us 
    knew to look for a ladder if someone went through.
    
    Most of the Webster Lake shorefront has a house nearby.  It never
    crossed the officer's mind to check these houses for a ladder?  Or
    call the fire dept. to bring one?  It's hard to believe the closest
    help is a hovercraft that's 1/2 hour away.  In fact, in most areas
    a call for someone through the ice would automatically bring a response
    from the fire dept.  Maybe the dispatcher also has some explaining to
    do.  In any case, someone should be fired if this is really how things
    occured.
    
    Rick    
118.15Who's turn to go!?!KIDVAX::DMICHAELSONTue Jan 28 1992 13:0321
    Kel,
    That man (and his daughter) are indebted to you and your brother for
    life! My hat is off to you gentlemen. And the boys in blue, "to
    protect and serve", can go someplace else. (not bashing all police men
    and women)
    
    RE: .10	Keg, can you elaborate on the safety cracks thing?!?!
    
    Back to the topic!
    
    Two days of ice fishing in southern NH produced several pickerel, two
    perch (good sized) and one 2lb bass. A total of 20 fish pulled up, all
    went back in...
    
    The real fun was watching the flags from the sunroom in the cottage we
    were in with binoculars. Run outside, jump in the jeep parked next to
    the dock and drive off to the flag (doing donuts on the way back).
    
    Real sporting ice fishing...   :^)
    
    Don
118.16Sounds good anyway.....XLIB::ALLINSONThe GuideTue Jan 28 1992 15:5018
    
    
    
        Re: Safety cracks.....
    
        When ice forms on Lakes and ponds it tends to shift with the
        weight of the ice and rising and falling of water making large cracks 
        in the ice that buckle together forming "safety cracks" this also 
        happens when ewe are walking along but not to the extent of the
        explanation.
    
        oh yea if an officers duty is to "Protect and serve" then.......
    
        I'll have a ham sandwich with a beer chaser!
    
    
    
                                                     T.K.
118.18slow at NewfoundDATABS::LAVASHSame as it ever was...Mon Feb 03 1992 09:2311
    Fished Sat and Sun on Newfound Lake.  Between 2 of us we caught 1
    16.5" lake trout.  Aside from a lot of wind flags it was slow.  Didn't
    see much action around us either.

    Also I'd be careful about driving on Newfound, average ice depth is 
    about 8 inches.  I dug a test hole over a wide crack, it was less 
    than 2 inches.

    I guess 8 cars went in across NH this weekend.

    George
118.19Not terrific.SALEM::PHELPS_JWed Feb 05 1992 10:379
    
    
        Fished Lake Champlain Sat. & Sunday. Caught a couple hundred smelt
    and 150 "keeper" perch . (keepers = > 10"). Sunday, the smelt came in
    hard just as we were leaving (naturally), but just getting out for the
    weekend made it worth while. Next trip in a couple of weeks will be for
    landlock salmon.
    
               John
118.20You can give me your bad days anytime!ELMAGO::MWOODWed Feb 05 1992 15:179
    John,
    Just curious, if 150 perch greater then 10" and 200 smelt don't make
    for a terrific day fishing what does ? :-) What part of the lake are
    you going to try for Salmon ? Has anyone heard how the lamprey program
    is coming along ? When will it start to increase the size of the
    salmonoid population ? 
    
    
    Marty
118.21going to take a whileSKIVT::WENERThu Feb 06 1992 08:028
    
    	Hi Marty - how are you?   From what I've heard, it'll take 
    several years to see favorable results from the Lamphrey program
    in Champlain.  People are still catching salmon and lakers with
    open sores.
    
    - Rob
    
118.22More questionsSALEM::PHELPS_JThu Feb 06 1992 12:4029
    
        Marty,
    
            Any day I'm out fishing is  a great day. This was Sat & Sun.
    and  I actually got just enough fish for two couples that are good
    fish eaters, so it was just perfect. The smelt have all been eaten and
    we've got just enough perch left for one more meal.
    
            Two places I fish salmon regularly are miles apart....one
    North of the Sandbar and one more located around where I hunt ducks
    in open lake. I hope you don't mind if I don't get more specific
    here in the files.
    
           If we can keep the protesters from blocking the lampricide
    applications program, then our fish	will succeed. They've already
    killed hundreds of thousands of lampreys in the applications already.
    When we will see an increase in the salmon population is a question
    I can't answer. I've caught (and released the majority of) about 35
    salmon in the past 3 years and haven't found one that  had been hit
    by lampreys, although I'm sure that they get there share of attacks 
    much like the Lake Trout. Lake trout I've caught have mostly had
    been hit by the lampreys.
          One of my concerns along with everything else is what effect the
    increase of salmon and laker population will have on the smelt
    population as this will directly effect an already dwindled walleye
    population as the smelt is a natural forage for walleyes.
       Could get hairy!
    
              John
118.2311-Mile Res. ColoradoCSC32::G_ROBERTSwhen the bullet hits the boneMon Feb 10 1992 09:195
	Fished 11-Mile on Sat and the salmon fishing was HOT!  Saw three
	people catch their limits, mostly 10" - 12".  I got 8, one @ 3#'s,
	four @ 2#'s, and three @ 1#.  Several 24" - 28" rainbows were
	caught.  The fishfinders showed large schools of salmon from 10 - 50
	feet deep.  Salmon took silver/orange spoons.
118.24first laker of the yearWAHOO::LEVESQUEEverything's better when wet!Mon Feb 17 1992 09:1554
 Fished two spots on saturday; one on Winnisquam, one on Newfound.

 Arrived at Winnisquam about 8:40. Had baits in the water before 9:00 am.
Nada. Met some nice people (I was fishing alone) who shared their bob house,
hot dogs, and stories. The owner of the bobhouse, Bruce, picked up a 17.25"
laker (a short) right off the bat. He was using a large bucktail jig (red 
and yellow) tipped with a piece of sucker. He got a few more hits but no more
fish. And no flags. He was in about 60 feet of water. His tip ups had chucks
of sucker on them; fished right on the bottom.

 I was using smelt. One tip up was right along the drop off in about 15
feet of water. The other was in about 60 (at first) then 80 feet of water.
I did not get a single flag. At 12:45, I decided to go to Newfound. There was
about 15-18" of ice where I was fishing, though there were some open spots
under Mosquito bridge and in the southern side of the lake. These guys tell me
that there are quite a few short lakers in this lake.

 So I went up to Newfound, to check on the bobhouse and fish for a short while.
Several of my smelt had hookmarks in them (I bought a half dozen in the morning)
so I figured I may as well use only fresh ones. After I made the first hole
through about 18-22" of ice, I dropped the previously hooked smelt through the
hole (3 of them.) I sounded for bottom, and put a smelt down there (15-18 feet
of water.) Chopped another hole in about 8 feet of water, and put a smelt down 
that hole as well.

 Decided to go around the island and see if Dave was at his bobhouse. Beer in
hand, I set off on this 5 minute jaunt. After noticing he wasn't at his 
bobhouse, I cut acorss the island, making a pit stop in the process. Then I
saw a kid from the next bobhouse over running towards my bobhouse. I started 
to come out of the woods, and the kid yells "Hey, you've got a flag over here!"
I ran over to the hole, and the line was not moving. I slowly picked up the 
tip-up, and felt the line. I set the hook into nothing, and retrieved an empty
hook. The damn fish had taken quite a bit of line. I quickly rebaited, and 
dropped the smelt down the hole (without sounding again; this was the trap that
didn't have a button on the line). When it was near where I figured bottom was,
I put the line down and picked up the trap to wind the remaining 50 feet or so 
of line back onto the reel. I was about halfway through this when the line
started to disappear into the hole quickly. Like a dummy, I didn't wait for
the line to stop, but immediately grabbed the line and set the hook. Fish on!
Feels good, too! I pulled the fish up, and saw it was a laker as it went 
past the hole. I got him up the hole, and as I tried to pull him onto the ice
the hook pulled free! He fell back into the hole. I practically dove into
the hole after her. Fortunately the hole wasn't big enough for her to turn 
around, and I grabbed her and tossed her onto the ice. Meanwhile, the
characters at the next bobhouse are howling with laughter at my Keystone Cops
like antics. But I had a keeper and they didn't, so... :-)

 The fish was just over 20". Nice fish. Female, with small egg sacks. 
Post-mortem showed several smelt in the belly, plus what looked to be pieces 
of sucker. About three pounds or so I'd guess. Set to be supper for tonight.

 I may be forced to take a vacation day this week to try for another. :-)

 The Doctah
118.25slow day on the iceDATABS::LAVASHSame as it ever was...Mon Feb 17 1992 10:019
    Fished off the mouth of Alton Bay on Sat. got one flag all day.  Lost
    the fish shortly after the probably too soon hook set.

    We had tip ups in from 8 to 70 feet of water over the course of the
    day.  Got the flag on the 70 footer around 2:30.  We were using
    suckers.
    
    George

118.26nice fish!WAHOO::LEVESQUEEverything's better when wet!Fri Feb 21 1992 13:533
 There's a picture in the Gardner News of a guy with a 32 lb 14 oz northern pike
taken from Quinsig. The monster was 45 inches long and had a 24 inch girth.
The fish is going to be mounted.
118.27WAHOO::LEVESQUEEverything's better when wet!Mon Feb 24 1992 14:558
 Spent yesterday on Newfound. Plenty of ice. A smattering of flags (5 of us
fishing), but no fish on the ice. My first flag was wimpy; the fish only
took 3 feet of line, and left with the bait. My second flag occurred when
I was off playing on the ATC; that one took about 20 feet of line.

 All action was over by 11:00, when it got sunny. We fished till 4.

 Jerks broke into the bobhouse again. What a pain in the arse.
118.28BIG fish!SENIOR::PENNINGFri Feb 28 1992 12:049
    
    
    re: Pike from Quinsig.
    
    What a horse! I am very surprised that they got it through the hole.
    With monsters like that swimming around, I am going to make sure
    my bathing suit has a tie string!
    
    Wildman
118.29comet ice?DEMING::HAUERFri Mar 13 1992 07:389
    
    	Is there still ice on Comet Pond in Hubbardston?
    
    	Tried to call that bait shop near there...the number is no
    	longer in service.  The place "was" called Clarks.
    
    	Gitzit'
    
    
118.30Still Ice FishingJUPITR::FORCIERMon Mar 16 1992 06:584
    
    I Know For A Fact That There Is 13 Inches On The North Side
    Of Buffamville On The Oxford Charlton Line.
              BOB
118.3111-Mile still cookingCSC32::G_ROBERTSwhen the bullet hits the boneTue Mar 31 1992 10:488
RE:                        -< 11-Mile Res. Colorado >-

	11-Mile is still hot for salmon.  Saturday I got 10, one 3#'s,
	six 2#'s, and three 1 1/2#'s.  Most everyone else were doing the 
	same.  The ice is 18".  Orange/silver kastmasters at 12 ft was
	the ticket off Halbert Point.


118.32GET THAT BOB HOUSE IN!SOLVIT::TINKERTue Apr 07 1992 17:258
    ICE HOUSES MUST BE REMOVED FROM THE ICE BY MIDNIGHT TONIGHT. 
    
    If you still have a bob house out on the ice you better get it off by
    midnight tonight. I heard on WZID that NH fish and game people are
    going to grab all bob houses that are still on the ice after midnight
    TONIGHT and auction them.   They expect ice out sometime this week on
    Winni and probably other lakes around the area.
    
118.33WAHOO::LEVESQUERocka RollaMon Feb 08 1993 08:427
 Any reports from the derby?

 I heard somebody caught an 18+ lb laker (untagged.) Anybody know where
that fish was caught?

 My cousin got his first laker of the season on friday. a small one, 4 lbs.
On a shiner.
118.34Winne ReportXCUSME::TOMASI hate stiff waterMon Feb 08 1993 09:1122
Winnie Report...

Yes, an 18+ lb., 36" laker was caught Saturday out of Winnie (no tag).  
It set a new record for the Derby.  As of Saturday, there was just ONE
tagged fish on the board... a .88 lb rainbow (yup, less than 1 pound!).
You can bet that guy was a little psyched and probably didn't sleep a wink
Saturday nite!

Winning fish was a 4.82 lb, 22" tagged laker that took grand prize of 18' Four
Winds boat, 120hp Evenrude & trailer valued at $18,400.  The .88 lb trout took
$2000 dollars.  The 18 lb laker was only worth $500 while a 7.4 lb. cusk won
$1000.  Tough to figure, huh?

We caught and released a nice 5 lb salmon on Saturday.  Had a couple of flags
on Sunday but they hit and ran.  Despite the cold weather, it was quite
tolerable out there since the wind wasn't blowing like last year.

OK...the Winnie Derby is over.  BRING ON THE WARMTH AND SCREW THIS STIFF
WATER!

-HSJ-
118.351 fish 2 days2858::LAVASHSame as it ever was...Mon Feb 08 1993 09:517
After 2 days of fishing, 3 people on Sat, 4 on Sunday, we only got
one laker.  This was on Newfound off of Beachwood.  I didn't see
anyone in the whole cove catching anything.

I did have a great time though.  And the new bobhouse worked out great.

George
118.36reel slowMCIS3::GGIONETMon Feb 08 1993 10:4213
    After 2 days of fishing, we got a total of 3 flags.  One 20" laker,
    nothing on the other 2.  The guy that won the boat is from Fitchburg,
    Ma.  I think his name was Larry Gamache or something like that.  
    After I caught the laker, New England Rod & Reel came over an
    interviewed me.  They said there were so few people catching fish
    they were looking for anyone.  They were fooling around with a 30"
    frozen blue fish.  They would stop by a hole, put the blue in on the
    end of a line, and watch the crowd gather, then pull up a blue.  They 
    thought it was amusing.  I guess something to pass the time since there
    was relatively no action around Merideth Bay.
    
    Garry
    
118.37BRRRRRREARRTH::MERCIERMon Feb 08 1993 13:2420
    That 18lb laker was caught out of the 1st Conneticut Lake and not
    Winni for what its worth. Started out on Friday with five guys ended
    with just myself and one other guy yesterday. It was toooo COLD!!!!!!
    26 degrees below 0 is a little much for myself.
    
    Five guys and only one flag on Sunday. It ended up being a white Perch.
    What was it doing in 80' of water??? I must be doing something wrong.
    Fished off of Long Island on Friday (all day) and got nothing. Fished
    all day Saturday off of Rattlesnake Island and got nothing. Fished all
    day Sunday at Lake Winnisquam and caught a 1/2 lb white Perch.
    
    I hope to gain the feeling back in my fingers by the end of the day!!!
    So I can send the Derby runners a letter to save them .29 cents and not
    send me an entry form next year cause I quit.......
    
    Sorry for rattling on I think my brain got freezer burn this weekend
    
    Bob M �
    
    
118.38ESKIMO::RINELLAMon Feb 08 1993 13:4110
    
    Saturday we fished out of minge cove and had three flags, two of them
    had about ten feet of line taken by the time we got to them and one was
    a wind flag(?) out of 14 traps. Sunday we fished Merry Meeting Lake and
    we caught a nice salmon and lost two hook ups, yanked the bait out of
    there mouths I guess , oh well we still had a great time the weekend just 
    went by toooo quick!
    
    Gus
            
118.39SWAM1::WIERSUM_GAMon Feb 08 1993 19:149
    
    Tooo COLD!  Went out for a few minutes last night.  with the wind
    chill, it must have gotten down to 66.
    
    Another reason to hate California
    
    
    
    
118.40Third placeWHEEL::FANTASIAMon Feb 15 1993 15:013
    I caught a 4.43 lb pickerel that won third place Saturday.
    
    Nick
118.41Hot time in ColoradoCSC32::G_ROBERTSwhen the bullet hits the boneMon Feb 15 1993 16:251
 8 of us from CXO3 fished 11 Mile Saturday and iced close to 70 salmon.
118.42IMWTK!SPARKL::JOHNHCMon Feb 15 1993 17:221
    That's almost 9 per person! Aren't there limits on salmon in Colorado?
118.43within the law, thank youCSC32::G_ROBERTSwhen the bullet hits the boneTue Feb 16 1993 08:426
RE:                      <<< Note 118.42 by SPARKL::JOHNHC >>>
                                  -< IMWTK! >-

>    That's almost 9 per person! Aren't there limits on salmon in Colorado?

the limit is 10 per.
118.44 WOW SALEM::JUNGhalf day-&gt;Tue Feb 16 1993 13:181
    
118.45Can a pond "die"?HYEND::WBARTONMon Mar 22 1993 12:3417
    
    
             I went out ice fishing yesterday during the snow flurries. We
    still had 20 or so inches of soft ice in Westboro. 
    
             I ran across something unusual. I think the pond was dead
    below 2 feet down from the ice's lower reach. Everytime I put a shiner
    more that 2 feet from the spool I'd pick up a dead shiner 15 minutes
    later. My theory was that the pond had no oxygen below that 2 feet of
    water. 
    
             Has anyone had any simliar experience? I should add that the
    pond has no inlets or outlets. It is normally good fishing.
    
             Comments?
    
    Bill.
118.46More info needed....EMDS::MMURPHYMon Mar 22 1993 12:507
    
     Hi Bill
    
        Whats the name of this pond? If you don't know, how about a
    location? Others may or may not have had the same problem.
    
                                                          K'
118.47It is a small pond...HYEND::WBARTONMon Mar 22 1993 13:0710
    
           I call it "The Mudhole". It is a small one acre pond beside
    Westboro Resevior. I'm pretty sure that no readers of this file have
    ever fished it. My question was more related to generalities. Has
    anyone ever seen a 10-12 foot deep pond where the only oxygen is in the
    upper 2 feet? And: Do the fish survive? IE: Will the pond have fish in
    it come summer?
    
    Thanks,
    Bill.
118.48$0.02SPARKL::JOHNHCMon Mar 22 1993 13:139
    Yes, ponds do die. A sad sight it is, too.
    
    FWIW, the oxygen in a frozen body of water will be in the deeper areas
    where the water most closely approximates 39.2 degrees F.
    
    From the sound of it, the pond you were fishing would not support any
    of the species that are most active in the winter. Species tolerant of
    low oxygen tend to basically hibernate in the cold.
    
118.49need ideasNCMAIL::RECUPARORWed Feb 15 1995 11:2114
    I would like to start some discussions on ice fishing tech's.   
    
    I went out on a local lake last Sat., drilled three holes used two tip-ups
    and a jigging pole and only caught a chill.  I was hoping to catch a walleye
    or some perch and was in a bay in about 10 ft of water.  On one tip-up
    I had a small sweedish-piple with a minnow and on the other a larger one
    with a minnow.  I was jigging with a chartruse jig.  
    
    Some people were using a snell hook with a minnow but how do you get
    them down?  
    
    Need some help guys going out Sat. again.
    
    Rick
118.50Try deeper water next time?OFOSS1::JOHNHCWed Feb 15 1995 11:269
    Gee, 10 feet of water seems awfully shallow. All the seriously cold
    water is going to be at the top of the water column, and it's hard to
    imagine that any warmwater species such as walleye or perch would be
    comfortable in water that cold.
    
    Do you all catch warmwater species through the ice in water that
    shallow on a regular basis?
    
    John H-C
118.51Keep trying!PSDV::SURRETTEWed Feb 15 1995 11:4332
    Hi Rick,
    
    I'm sure where "local" is for you, but I'm assuming that
    it's not New England (as there are very few Walleye in
    any of the bodies around here).
    
    I was out ice fishing last weekend, and had a pretty good
    day.  I almost exclusively use tipups when I ice fish, 
    mostly because I'm too lazy, and *someone* has to watch
    the grill!  We use shiners with snelled hooks.  To get 
    the minnow down, we attach a split shot sinker above
    the minnow approximately a foot from the hook.  
    
    Last Sunday, we caught a lot of perch and pickeral, and
    one fugly eel (a first for ice fishing!).  We fished from
    4 to 12 feet, with small to medium sized shiners.  We did
    particularly well where there were the reminants of
    green weedbeds.   We kept the shiners as close to the 
    bottom as possible.  
    
    Although we never hooked into any bass, many bass were
    taken (Mainly Largemouth, but at least one rogue smallie
    was caught) reportedly in the same depth ranges.  We did,
    however, win the tournament with a 4.29 lb pickerel, and 
    if the tounament had a perch division, I probably could
    have won that, as I managed a very fat, well over a pound
    perch!
    
    Hope this helps...
    
    gusman
     
118.52sugar cube sinkersTAMDNO::WHITMANI&#039;m the NRA and I voteWed Feb 15 1995 12:4616
<    Some people were using a snell hook with a minnow but how do you get
<    them down?  
    
   One technique my father-in-law used was a sugarcube used as a temporary link
between the minnow and a small rock.  Tie the cube to your line and a separate
line to a appropriately shaped stone (heck through the ice you could even keep
a long line attached to the rock so you could retrieve it.)  Anyway, drop the
rig in the water, which will sink until the sugar cube melts at which time the
minnow is swimming free. 

   Actually he used this technique to cast his shiners "way the hell and gone"
out into the Wachusett Reservoir for lakers. That took the pressure of the
cast off the bait and provided a free (almost) swimming shiner waaaaayyyyyy out
there.

Al
118.53A great day at the A1PSDV::SURRETTEMon Feb 20 1995 08:5333
    
    
    Finally, an A1 day like I remember them!
    
    I hit the A1 Site yesterday to fish a tournament that
    the Green Water Wizards were holding.  Of course the
    weather was perfect, and there was a surprising amount
    of ice, despite the few days of warm water.  There was
    at least 6 inches of black ice covered by an inch or 
    two of slush ice.
    
    The best part was the fishing!  The first two hours was
    complete chaos, with flag going up faster than we could
    rebait them.  After that, another hour or two of pretty
    steady action, and then it slowed.  We did not get any
    really big fish, with a 1.75lb bass being the largest,
    but quantity made up for the lack of quality.   We ended
    up with 15 or so bass, mostly just keepers.  It was good
    enough to take 7 out of the 20 places listed in the 
    tourney, with 6th being the highest.  No money, but we
    got a couple dozen lures that were given for places 
    6 through 20.  
    
    Interestingly enough, not one pike or pickerel made it
    to the scales.   
    
    Apparently, there was also a tournament there on Saturday,
    with a pretty small number of fish weighed in.  Overall,
    Sunday was the better day.
    
    
    Gusman