Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

    Hi Rick,
    Have you considered downriggers? Another thought would be to try dipsy
    divers. We use to use wire when I was growing up to troll for laketrout
    up in Sunapee. It was difficult to judge the depth the lure was at so
    we would get hung up frequently...I've never tried it in the salt...
    
    Marty

Hi, Marty
	Thanks for the ideas.  I haven't tried down riggers or dipsy divers
yet, but I have tried the salmon rigs they use out in calif with the release
and 2 lb. weight without results.  It seems the boats catching fish are all
using monel.  My guess is that the wire gets them down then the angler controls
the amount of line out by "feeling" the bottom so the result is that the lure
passes through the holes holding the fish.  In some of the Holes between the
islands the bottom can vary from teens to 50's of feet in depth within 150
lateral feet.

	Rick 

    
    
    
    hi Rick
    
    		I have had some success using light line ( 14lb ) with
    	down riggers. I do use a scope to find a large scool of Blues
    	and then run a silver and blue minnow type lure ( large ) right
    	through the middle of em'. I never had any luck using lead line
    	trolling as I could never seem to get the depth of the lure right.
    
    	I currently use medium size Cannon riggers with 150 lb test and
    	10lb ball.  These units are approx $ 160.00 each and the ball is
    	extra. 
    
    		When we troll , we run two riggers and one center rod with
    	lead line. ( Never catch much on the middle rod. )
    
    
    				Good luck.
    
    
    ps: these babys are real good for big resh water fish in lakes like 
    	Sebago, I hear.
    
    

Hi Neil,
	thanks for the information.  When you use the down riggers are you
also fishing for striper or just for blues on the spring and fall migration ?
Also, are you fishing north or south of the Cape ?  This was my third season
south of the Cape, and I have no experience on the north side.  I have found
traditional trolling works, on the south side, for the migratory fish.  But
during June, July, and Aug. the blues are loners or very small schools and
are usually found by structure which produces rips with the changing tide.
I have been concerned with getting the down riggers "hung up" on the bottom.
By the way, my most productive lures for blues have been Rebels.  The more
teeth marks the better the blues like them, but you must keep the hooks
sharp or you'll loose more than you catch.
	I found single strand monel wire line at Spags.  Its available from
20 to 50 lb. test and comes in packages of 2 connected, 100 yd. spools.
I picked up the 50 lb. as a stocking stuffer for my son-in-law.  So, hopefully
I'll have a report next spring on how it works.  Who knows, I may even get
a try if I can get away from being a "bridge prisoner".

	Rick

    
    	Hi Rick.
    
    		I've fished the insided of the bay only. From Plymouth to
    Gloucester. Mostly off of HUll and Cohasset. I will at times troll the
    beach if the tides right for stripers, but stripers are better standing
    in the surf using big sinkers and fish heads.  I guess you could loose 
    the ball if you snagged something but there is a drag on the rigger and
    using 150 lb test should save a ball or two. 
    		I would'nt troll much below 60 feet and I'm in water from
    90 to 120 ft. ( I suppose I could snag a whale or big shark ) But You
    don't drob the ball until you find the fish anyway.. 
    
    
    
    				Prayin for Spring...
    

wire.line

	This note has been inactive for some time so I guess its time for
an update.  For any number of reasons (excuses) we have only been able to
accumulate about an hour and a half of fishing so far this season, and that
was 3 weekends ago.  At any rate the wire line seemed to improve our strike
ratio by a factor of 2 (compared to other boats in the same area).
	In the short period we fished I did notice several differences worth
mentioning:

	1. The loss to strike ratio seems higher with wire, by guess is for
	   two reasons -
		a. the lack of elasticity seems to straighten out el cheapo
		   hooks that come on some lures.
		b. for the same reason the fish realizes he has been hooked
		   sooner, and therefore lines must be constantly tended to
		   set the hook. (Its interesting to watch one person try to
		   tend two poles at the same time, with strikes on both.)

	2. You can't stop for one fish with multiple lines out.  The wire
	   line will carry your (designed to float) lure to the bottom where
	   it becomes entangled with lobster gear, unlike mono which will
	   allow the lure to float to the top.

	3. The rod tip indicates lure action much better with wire than with
	   mono.  This makes adjusting trolling speed much easier.

	4. A roller tip rod is essential fore wire line.

	All this information was collected in a very short period on a Sunday
afternoon when it was windy and rough forcing us to stay close to the
protected shore.  We were fishing Clark's Cove, just out of New Bedford,
in water 11 to 20 feet deep.  The Blues we landed all turned out to be
schoolie "runners" in the 6 to 10 lb size range.

	Since the runs seem to have moved from Buzzards Bay to the North,
during the next few weeks I hope to be able to understand the application
of wire line to coaxing the "holdovers" out of their hiding places in the
Holes and other structure.

	Rick

re.88.6

	Good update on WIRE line use.

	When my wife wanted to get her first ever striper I wanted to make
	sure she got one first time out.  We put in one pole with Wire and
	one with Mono both with deep diving plugs.  Got double Striper hit
	but with small scoolies on the line she didn't get too much feel
	for the fight.  So we switch back to spinning outfits and she
	caught 3 more and had a great time.

	I like wire as it really get's the lures down where some of the
	lunkers are lurking but you do give up some fight fun.

	-< Tuna Tail >-