Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

    
    	Yo! TBDW.....what about California.....you inviting us out?
    
    	Gitzit'

    
    YO Glutsit!
    
    Come on down....
    
    I haven't had a chance to go fishin since I got here but I'm due.
    
    COME ON DOWN......According to everything I've read, they be some big
    time fishin here...
    
    TBDW
    

    
    
    
           But ewe can't do it with your hands in your pockets all
           the time,Gary.It should be warmer out there so you'll be
           able to hold a fishing rod in your hands.....
    
    
                                         Next!
    
    
                                           T.K.
                             

    
    
    Well I thought I'd add a little fishing story here about the one that 
    did not get away.  I landed a 9 lb Rainbow trout this past weekend
    using my ultralight pole with 6 lb test. I caught it on a 1/8 oz
    Rooster tail rainbow color.  I let 'em fight for about 10 min to 
    wear him out then landed 'em. Made for quite a feast this weekend.
    
    Gerry

    RE: .4
    
    Where at? 
    
    I pounded Del Valle all day Saturday and came away with nothing but a
    sore wrist from casting a million times. Although a friend of mine
    caught a couple of 5lb.+ rainbows last weekend. 
    
    The big one's are starting to come up, and the best action will be this
    month and December.
    
    Ice, what's that?  8^)
    
    John D.

    
    The place is called Parkway Lakes. Its a local place that is stocked
    weekly with sturgeon and trout. Its off hiway 101 and metcalf road.
    
    It's easier to go down montery road to metcalf and turn left. You
    can't miss it.
    
    Gerry

    
    Irvine lake started the trout season today...the paper last night said
    that they expected 400 cars lined up by 4:pm on thursday eve..
    
    The good news is that they stocked 8 TONS of trout! yep 8 tons!
    
    The largest being in the 18 to 20 pound range and the majority 3 t0 7
    pounds.  
    
    No license required/10 bucks to get in.
    
    I will drive by today to check it out.  Don't worry Keg, I will keep my
    hands in my pockets...hell it dipped down to 64 degrees last night.
    
    TBDW

    
    
    I take it Irvine Lake is in the Irvine area?
    
    Too far to drive from San Jose...

    
    Yep.  Orange County
    
    TBDW
    

    If I remember correctly, isn't it a flooded quarry?
    
    John D.

    
    
    
                 Re: .7
    
    
                 TBDW,there are such things as gloves.The old pockets
                 must be pretty well worn by now.
    
    
    
                                              The Keg

Hey TBDW...

I will be in the Anaheim area from 12/6 thru 12/11.  Are you in the area?

Does Irvine have boat rentals?  What is the preferred tackle?  (I'll have to 
use my dad's gear).

Let me know.

-HSJ-

<I will be in the Anaheim area from 12/6 thru 12/11.  Are you in the area?
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<Does Irvine have boat rentals?  What is the preferred tackle?  (I'll have to 
<use my dad's gear).
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<Let me know.
Hey Hole'shot,

  If you can't get any fishing action down there in Disneyland, you might
come north to the bay area over the weekend & I'll take you fishin'.  If
you're interested give me a shout.  Hell TBDW has been out here almost 6
months now and today is the first I've heard from him...  I thought we was
going to get some fishin in, but NOOOOO...  I guess you have to learn who
your fishin' buddies are after a while...

Al

Al,

Thanks for the offer.  Unfortunately, I won't be able to break away to get up 
to the Bay Area.  Since Irvine lake is close by to Anaheim, I thought that 
_maybe_ TBDW might offer to hook up with me on Saturday or Sunday for a few 
hours. But...knowing how much of a wimp he is, I'll probably have to go it 
alone.

Thanks again for the offer.  Now let's see if Wierd Weirsum takes the bait.

-HSJ-

    
    does anyone know where the Gulf of Farallones National Marine
    Sanctuary is ?  I just read an article about 47,500 corroaded and 
    collapsed drums of radioactive waste in an around the Sanctuary.
    NOAA is to finance a $900,000 study to see if they are leaking.  
    Story sez tests of the fish in the area and worms living on the bbls
    show no unusual radiation levels, but sonar records show serious
    corrosion.
    
    	I was wondering if anyone has charts of that area and if so, whats
    	the depth of water we're talking about.
    
    I expect it's DEEP , but maybe it's just "outta sight outta my
    back yard ..." 
    
    	not sure if this has hit the press out there, thought it 
    	might be of interest and if anyone has charts on the wall
    	it'd be the fishy types thinking about were they'd rather
    	be ...
    
    source of my info was the May/June 1991 issue of WAVES which is
    an ocean technology news magazine mainly concerned with ROV's
    and submersibles.
    
    		- Ed who's already tired of Vermont winters and the lake
    		     is 40�F already !!!
    				
    

    Not sure about the "gulf" part, but the Farallones are a small group 
    of islands about 20-25 miles off of San Francisco. I don't know the
    details, but they've been dumping "stuff" out there for years.
    Periodically, commercial fishermen will come up with WWII vintage
    torpedoes in their nets. Live ones. Toxic waste, nuclear waste, 
    assorted industrial by-products, and various excess ordinance are laying
    around here and there. Alot of rock fish are caught by people on
    cattle-boats, but I'd think twice about eating it. 
    
    As a sidebar, I once caught a 25lb. Golden-eye  and won the boat pot
    out there. It's a beautiful place, and the islands are a favorite
    destination for sport fishermen, as well as day sailors, although I
    believe that the islands themselves are off-limits.
    
    John D.
         

    
    	I got the "gulf" piece from the article .... sounds like
    	a nice place to visit (on the top at least).  There's
    	a place in lake Superior that has a few hundred bbl's of
    	"unknown" goop but when I heard about this site I was
    	amazed.
    
    	Don't want to ramble too much here, but if anyone 
    	has additional info on depths etc mail> would be great.
    
    	(I don't know why I'm interested in Calif bbls, but I've
    	 been recently exposed to the issue of recovering 55 gal bbls
    	 of unknown contents and am working on ways to raise such things 
         safely (for the operator and the environment) and radiation 
    	scares the hell out of me.
    
    	samples of the lake superior bbls I understand got caught by 
    	a fishing vessel and dropped back, but not before the scales
    	started dropping off the fish they caught ... see ... I knew 
    	I could connect this whole thing to fishing.
    	
    			thx again 
    
    
    moderator can delete this reply in awhile since it adds nothing
    to the 65.* or fishing file ... or I'll clean it up in
    a week or so.	
    					- Ed

    Back to Irvine lake for a second.  I am in Georgia, and have been here
    for over 5 years now, but when I lived in Huntington Beach, Irvine lake
    was one of the lakes on the weekend circuit.  Fishing habits don't
    change at Irvine lake, so here is my rendition of how to fish it, and
    believe me, I have been successful there.
    
    For baits- marshmallow salmon egg combos, marshmallow nightcrawler
    combos, or inflated nightcrawlers dipped in crushed garlic.  You'll
    get your rod bending big time.
    
    Lures-yellow ultrasonic roostertails, or mepps black fury's.  If you
    get a boat, go to sierra cove, or whatever they call it now.  There is
    a water intake there, and produces good current for feeding fish.  Try
    #18 salmon egg hooks with one egg on it, a split shot about 18" up and
    drop it about 15-20 ft.  Katie bar the door!!!!!!!!!!!
    
    THE BEST TROUT FISHING IN SOUTHERN CALIFORNIA IS LAKE ARROWHEAD!!!! 
    But you got to know how to fish it.  Native rainbows AVERAGING 5lbs.
    Orange meat, not that crap genetic trash from Irvine lake.  call me
    at dtn 385-7201 and I will talk southern california trout with you, and
    exchange info.  When you make it in "WON" 4 times in 2 years, you catch
    some trout.
    
    
    Bot "What the hell am I doing in Georgia" Harris.
    

<    Orange meat, not that crap genetic trash from Irvine lake.  call me
<    at dtn 385-7201 and I will talk southern california trout with you, and
<    exchange info.  When you make it in "WON" 4 times in 2 years, you catch
<    some trout.
    
Why not go into it here where we can all benefit from your experience.  That is,
after all, what this conference is all about.  The tricks, techniques, etc. that
you used at Arrowhead may very well work in other lakes and streams as well.

I'd be happy to try new techniques here in Northern Calif, as (I presume) would
those who fish Quinsig or the Quabbin in Massachusetts, or Winnipisaukee in NH.

Al

    I sincerely hope that note .19 was not deleted due to language, because
    that would mean I pissed someone off.  I did not want to do that.  I
    just want to say that fishing at lake arrowhead is much better, the
    scenery is awesome, no lines, and you save money.  I have fished irvine
    lake plenty of times, but that's like going to the fish market.  If you
    can't limit out at Irvine, give up fishing and take up golf, it still
    has hooks in it.
    
    Now, fishing arrowhead, you got to rent a boat, since it is all private
    shore.  Go into blue jay bay, and troll with a "Dave Davies" (which is
    a lure that is about 2-3 ft with a bunch of spoons on it, it duplicates
    a school of shad or baitfish), and tied behind the dave davies use 2 lb
    line and a #12 bait hook, and have a nightcrawler on the hook.  YOU
    WILL HOOK UP AND CATCH GOOD SIZED NATIVE RAINBOWS!!!  In the spring,
    troll with chartruese sonic rooster tails with two pound line around
    points, and babe watch out, smallmouth fever!
    
    As far as bait fishing at arrowhead, using roe (real trout eggs) and
    marshmallows, using about 3 ft leader with egg sinker set up, tears
    them up most of the time.
    
    Now obviously there is no lie, you do not tear them up 100% of the
    time, but you have a excellent chance of that 10-15 lb stringer of
    4 trout.  I saw Dennis Weaver (McCloud) at arrowhead one time when
    we came off the boat and he said,"Gosh guys, you look like you caught
    a mess of mighty fine fish." 
    
    In closing, all I can say is that Arrowhead is the BEST lake in
    southern CAL to fish for trout.  Big Bear is ok, but to much pressure.
    
    Since you have to rent a boat to fish arrowhead, not many people fish
    it.  When I was there, it was $55 a day.  But weigh that out against
    Irvine lake and the price of admission EACH, boat rental, lines,
    crowds, parking in line at 4 am.
    
    That is not fishing!  Fishing is getting into nature.  Fishing is
    sitting in your boat at arrowhead and watching a bald eagle come down
    and snatch a trout out of the water right in front of you. Now that's 
    real fishing.
    
    I am now off my soapbox on arrowhead.  Regardless of where you fish,
    just fish.
    
    Bob
    

                        -< didn't mean to step on toes >-

Bob,

   Thanks for the tips and techniques...  I don't know what may have caused
.19 to be deleted, but I'm sure glad I got my request for more info in before
it disappeared.  You have provided just exactly the type of info I was looking
for. 

			Lake Del Valle stand-by!!!!

   I'll have to go out this weekend and see how this trolling stuff works...

I feel sorry for all those guys out there in the colder climates that will
have to wait 'til April to do much trolling.  I understand launching the boats
this time of year is easy enough, just untie everything and slam on the
brakes when you get to the bottom of the ramp, the boat just slides off pretty
as you please. Getting the boat back on the trailer though is a real trick.


Al

>I don't know what may have caused .19 to be deleted

 It wasn't deleted. It was moved to the Rathole (note 22).

    
    
    Howdy.
    
    
    I hadda tell the world about this. I just got back from lunch
    with a stringer of 5 rainbows. Stevens Creek  Was cookin today
    1 1/2 hours worth of sun, and I cought my limit. 1/4 oz Kastmaster
    30 yards out from the bank.
    
    
    Happy angling
    
    Gerry

    What da mean Gerry? I caught 3 of them and it was a 1/8 oz kastmaster.
                                             Scott
     (who went back after work and caught 12 more!)

    
    Yeah yeah yeah...If it weren't for me you wouldn't have cought them 
    anyway. It was MY Kastmaster, therefore my fish.

    
    
    SHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!

    Where is the fishing in Northern CA?
    
    I've just resigned from DEC and have decided to move to the Palo Alto
    area.  I'm wondering if I have to drive for a week to find the good
    fishing.
    
    I've also decided to sell the boat in Seattle, so I guess I'm
    interested in river/bank fishing.
    
    Any tips are appreciated.
    
    /brett

    Can't offer any tips, but I just wanted to wish you luck in your 
    new adventures...  don't forget to say Hi to ol' Darold for me next
    time you get down to Fla 8^)
    
    -donmac
    

<    Where is the fishing in Northern CA?
<    
<    I've just resigned from DEC and have decided to move to the Palo Alto
<    area.  I'm wondering if I have to drive for a week to find the good
<    fishing.
<    
<    I've also decided to sell the boat in Seattle, so I guess I'm
<    interested in river/bank fishing.
<    
<    Any tips are appreciated.
    
brett,

		!!!!!!!!!DON'T SELL THE BOAT!!!!!!!!!

I live in San Ramon, on the East side of the bay.  

About 2 hours north of Palo Alto you get into the area of California's
Salmon/Steelhead rivers. A lot of Striper fishing is done in the Bay itself and
in the Sacramento River DELTA. The delta is hundreds of bays, sloughs and
canals that goes from the Bay all the way to Sacramento on the Sacramento River
and to Stockton (and beyond) on the San Joaquin River.  Every year there is a
Salmon run up the delta to the spawning grounds (although the drought has
caused severe restrictions in the fishing this year).  A boat on the delta has
to be able to deal with strong winds and the chop that goes with it. There are
reservoirs in the area you can fish for catfish, trout, and bass.  Many of them
offer 14' aluminum rental boats for about $25/day. Fishing out of a boat is
much easier than fishing off the bank.  There are lots of party boats out of
San Francisco, Emeryville, Halfmoon Bay, Santa Cruz and Bodega Bay for salmon,
halibut, sturgeon, stripers, and rock bass that charge about $45/day if you're
into that type of fishing. 

Brett, unless there is an overwhelming need to unload the boat, keep it.  Ramps
are not hard to find and ramp fees are not unreasonable.

Al

    Hey Donmac, I hope you finally get that 12 lber to put on the wall down
    there one of these days.  You sure deserve it.
    
    I think I have to sell the boat due to cash flow.  CA is mucho
    expensivo from what I can tell so far.
    
    Thanks to everyone for all the fun in this conference.  May you all
    catch your best catch ever this year.
    
    /brett

    
    It happened and I wasn't there!
    
    I was invited to go out yesterday and couldn't make it.
    
    My next door neibor brought home a 165# MARLIN. and 3 Tuna about 20#
    each
    
    18 foot boat with a 65hp
    30lb test
    2 1/2 hours  Standing in the boat....no chair/no harness
    large Mackeral bait
    About 14 miles out from Dana Point 
    
    He and I may go out on Weds.
    
    

re: .33

	Congrat's to your neighbor.
	What a time he must have had bringing in that monster in.

	Was he alone aboard?
	R U kiddin on 14 miles out in an 18ft 65hp?
	What make boat?
	How was the winds/waves?
	
	Lettuce know how you do Wed if you go.

	Good Luck
	-< Tuna Tail >-

    
    re: .33
    
           I envy him from 3000 miles away, can imagine how you felt.
           
           Anyway, I don't think I've ever heard of marlin being a 
           table delicasy, only a trophy mount.  Are they edible?
    
           Fred

 Yeah, they are edible, but what a waste of a fine animal!

    
    He told me that by the time he got it in, the MARLIN was EXHAUSTED
    And probably wouldn't have made it.
    
    He chunked it, sold it to a bunch of folks and smoked the rest.  (I
    don't know where he got papers that big!)