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    	Brian...I hook them right in the middle using the hook as the only
    	weight....cast that bad boy out and let it settle.   The drop takes
    	a looonnnggg time so be patient.  This summer we had success just
    	letting them sit on the bottom for awhile....then reel them in
    	quickly and repeat.  All you have to do is keep your line a little
    	taut to feel the pick ups...then you know the rest...set hook...
    	tell lie about how large the fish was...:-)
    
    	Gitzit'
    
    	

    
    
          Re -.1
    
    
             I take it that EWE caught O-N-E fish this way??
    
    
    
                                         T.K.

    Gitzit
    
    Rigged up that way you must get alot of line twist?
    
    Brian

    
    	Brian..not that I notice....I use 6lb test and that may be why.
    	Give it a go...your gonna love they way they settle on down.
    
    	Gitzit'
    
    

Gitzit you fish with the Kiv too much!

    I've used the 4" finesse worms a few times w/ 6lb test on my 4'9" 
    ultralight (that has a little backbone), 1/32oz bullet weights and
    1/0 Gamakatzu hooks.  Have lost a few big fish, and caught a few nice
    ones and a bunch of smaller ones.  Lots of fun on the ultralight.
    Will have to try the slider head.  If I get around to seriously fishing
    these little jobies I'd probably move up to a med actio 6' spinning rod
    and would try 8lb test.
    
    -donmac

     Try pointing the rod tip right at the lure, and using a slow, steady
    retrieve with absolutely NO action. That's how Charlie Brewer used to
    fish 'em - and it works.
    
    --Bandito

    
         I'll second that last reply. I caught my biggest Bass using
    this technique on a Motor oil Gitzit rigged weedless. You can't
    go toooo slow. Seems to drive the Bass crazy.
    
                                        Jeff (Captain)
                                        Team Starcraft

	Does anyone troll worms behind flashers?  If so, how do you
	hook the worm up and how far behind the flashers do you let
	it run?  

	Gordon

    Does anyone have a book or point me in the direction on rigging up
    these worms and methods and etc etc etc. I pretty much use the weedless
    worm hook that comes already rigged just tie to our line.. That and
    fish alot at lunch with shiners, catch and release everything. Theres a
    few places around BXB that its pretty much drop a line and pull up a
    base. 

    RE: .11
    
    	The easiest way to get worm rigging info is to join the Bass
    conference, DEMING::BASS_FISHING, by sending mail to either Ray Tadry
    at DEMING or BIGQ::TADRY or Gary Mattson at DEMING or BIGQ::MATTSON.
    	It's a membership conference so you can't just add it to your
    directory, you have to be added.
    	Caution:  People are occasionally rowdy in the Bass conference.
    
    					B.C.

    Thanks, I've sent mail to Ray to Join the conference..
    
    Hurls

	Although I haven't been doin any COD fishing in many years due to
	primary interest in Blues and Stipers etc I remember seeing the
	worms and removing them with ease.  Those I remember were taken
	off Plum Island right at the mouth of the Merrimack close to shore.

	Don't ever remember seeing any caught on party boats offshore so
	agree with all prior messages on inshore vs offshore worm-i-ness.
	I also remember that they are mostly evident when the water is 
	warm as also mentioned so again this supports prior comments.

	Last November I was on the Merrimack near the mouth and we were
	in the middle of aprox 50 Harbour Seals.  I never saw so many 
	at one time and never expected to see them this far south?
	Although I did see 5 to 10 of them down the Cape last year on
	Monomoy Island.  Fortunately there wasn't many boats on the Merrimack
	that cold day but I could imagine the difficulty if those seals were
	there during peak summer Blue's & Striper time?  
	
	50 Seals + 50 Boats + Small River Width = 100 Sushi Platters

	Do they leave?
	-< Tuna Tail >-

    	 I have a bit of an embarrassing question to ask....THis is my
    second season fishing freshwater since I was a kid and the only thing I
    was after then (not that I had a choice) was trout. Anyhow, I hear a
    lot about Texas and Carolina rigging. I haven't seen any articles in
    the mags I've been buying concerning the set ups, and I'm to
    embarrassed to ask the "dude" at the tackle store the proper way to
    rig these set ups, and if there is a diff between them. Does anyone
    care to enlighten me?
    
    fiShoN!
    _kev-
           

   I'll let someone else describe a Carolina rig as I seldom use it...

A Texas rig is where you slip a bullet sinker on your line (tip toward the reel)
Tie on a 1/0 to 3/0 hook (depending on the size of your worm.) Push the hook
through about 1/4" of your rubber/plastic worm bring the tip of the hook out
the side of the worm. Slide that 1/4" of worm all the way up so as to hide the
eye of the hook, then turn the tip of the hook back into the body of the worm
so as to make it weedless (most folks acutally bring the point out the other
side and push it back into the worm. When done correctly the worm should hang
straight, not kinked or twisted. 

To fish a Texas rig, toss the line out. Take up the slack with the tip of your
rod more or less parallel to the water. Lift the rod tip to about 11 o'clock,
take up the slack as you lower the rod tip and repeat.  Let the the worm sit
for a few moments between lifts.  What you are doing is making the worm sort of
hop across the bottom. When you lift, the worm comes up off the bottom 6 to 12"
and flutters back to the bottom. When you detect the fish pick up the worm
(can be a tick-tick-tick or being unable to feel the weight of the bait when
you lift) point your rod tip toward the water, take up the slack and SLAM your
rod tip straight up to 12 o'clock to force the point of the hook through the
bony plate in the roof of the fishes mouth.  FISH-ON

Al

    Hi Kev,
    
    The carolina rig is my all time favorite rig to fish!  For
    certain applications, for me, it's simply the most productive
    method of fishing.
    
    First, how to rig.  The major difference between a texas rig
    and a carolina rig is the location of the sinker in relationship
    to the (usually) soft plastic bait you're fishing.  To tie one
    up, first slide a 1/2 to 1+ ounce egg or bullet sinker onto
    your line.  Next thread one 1 or more glass beads behind the sinker,
    and then tie on a barrel swivel.  To the other end of the swivel,
    tie on a length of monofilament line and to the end of the leader
    a 2/0 to 5/0 offset shank worm hook.  The length of the leader
    is dependent upon the type of cover you're fishing, but as a rule
    I use a 2.5 to 4 foot leader.  It is also recommended that the 
    mono leader be 2-4 lbs test lighter than the main line.  With the
    lighter leader, should the hook hang up you can sometimes save the
    weight/beads/swivel because the lighter line should break first (it's
    been my experience that it's almost always the weight that hangs,
    however).  When impaling the bait on the hook (I Usually use zoom
    lizards), use the "Tex-posed" rig, I.e. bury the point into the
    bait, so that it's weedless.
    
    Now, when and where to fish.  The C-rig is really well suited to
    fishing deeper water where you want to cover larger areas of
    structure and cover.  Any time the fish are 8-10 feet or deeper,
    I will try a C-rig.  Especially in clear water (where the fish
    tend to be deeper anyhow).  As for structure, the c-rig excels
    in deeper grassbeds.  Also, stumps, smallish rockpiles and gravel
    are all prime locations.
    
    When to fish?  I fish the rig all year.  In spring, if you're
    catching lots of bucks in the shallows but none of those big
    females, a c-rig used on the first or second major drop will
    sometimes do the trick.  Some for post spawn, as the fish
    will leave the beds and recover at similar locales.  In
    summer, especially smallies in clear water, the fish will 
    relocate to deeper structure in 12-30 feet (or more).  In
    the fall, as the fish start migrating back to the shallows
    to pork up for winter, primary and seconday points leading
    into coves can be fished with the c-rig.
    
    How?  Almost any way, depending on the mood of the fish. 
    Sometimes a hopping/relatively quick retrieves will do it,
    other times an extremely slow, almost dead-stick approach
    is needed.  Also, a steady drag can also be used!
    
    Well, I've blabbered on enough...  Hope this helps...
    
    Gusman
    

    	Thanks for the info guys! Looking forwrd to fishing both of those
    rigs this spring....
    
    -kev_

    re.17
    
    Wow Gus, "You really do know something about Bass Fishing" !!!!!  Now I 
    don't believe any of that stuff Sully said about you 8^) !!!  The only
    thing I would add to Doctor Whitman and Professor Surrette's excellent
    explainantions is, usally the Texas Rig method get's through the Heavy
    Cover a little more easier.  Like Gus, them damn Carolina rigs always seem 
    to get hung up on the sinker, and when I break it off I've lost
    everything.
    						Gary