Conference wahoo::fishing-v2

I found myself in Zyla's last night, staring at "the wall." I stopped
staring long enough to wipe the drool and buy a deep-diving Rapala that I
just *had* to have, as I *know* it will be a killer and my new secret
weapon. Then we drove up to Hooksett (NH) to look over the new WalMart.
<argggg> That very same lure was there on the pegboard. I paid $4.75 at
Zyla's, and it's $4.28 at WalMart. Other lures are similarly priced.
Zyla's used to be the very cheapest place to get lures around here,
barring closeout sales.

WalMart had a modest selection of Rapala, Rebel, Bomber, and some Heddon
plugs (torpedos, zaras, etc.), in addition to the standard spinners,
spoons, flies, etc. When the WalMart opens in Amherst, NH next year, there
won't be much reason at all to go to Zyla's, except for their variety of
lures. 

Zyla's is no longer the cheapest place to get stuff. Actually, the wife
and I noticed some time ago that their prices had climbed on everything.

Art 

    I'm a newcomer to this file, so I must have missed Zyla's somehow. I've
    seen a couple of references to it, but have no idea where it is. I
    usually get my stuff at Spag's. Sometimes, Sears has good prices on
    certain items. I've found a few really good buys there. They were
    probably mistakes, but that's okay with me. Like the Shimano reel I
    bought; it's a TXn00. It's the biggest TX they made at that time. I
    paid $29.95 at Sears. Can someone tell me where this Zyla's is? In case
    they have better prices than Spag's? I live in Acton, MA, BTW, so NH is
    not out of the question, at all. I work in SHR, which is close to
    Spag's.
    
    leo

 Zyla's is easy to get to. Take rt 3N into New Hampshire. Take exit 11
(Continental Boulevard) in Merrimack (this is a 50� toll). Left at the end of
the exit. Left at the first set of lights (this is old route 3, aka DW Highway).
Zyla's is up on the left, about 5 miles or so.

	There was a bin next to the sports-dept cash register at the 
	Sears in Auburn, MA with assorted crankbaits 2 for $5.00.   
	I picked up a couple of Rebels, but mostly they had Hedon (?) 
	and Bombers and stuff like that.  Pretty good price, not sure of
	other Sears...

	Ken

    Actually, Walt is no longer (see .0) considering the squid, as The
    Fishermans' Outfitter in Danvers has the same squid for $3 (This may be
    a special, better call to make sure)
    
    They had about 30-40 when I was there Saturday.
    
    Tim
    

    Hi my name is Frank and I do a lot of bottom fishing for cod and I like
    to try different things all the time, any suggestions in where I can
    pick up teasers of different colors and jigs other than Spags and the
    shops around the piers. I have heard of a crippled hearing jig that
    works realy good on cod but I have been anable to find it anywhere. Any
    help would be appreciated.                              

    I make my own teasers...Want to buy some?
    
    Tim
    

    
    Tim,
    
        Could you post what you have/make & prices ?
    
    Thanks,
    
    Ed
    

    Tim,
    
    	Same here could you post what you have colors, size etc. I'm
    interested.
    
    Frank

    Mind you, I'm not advertising a business here.  Call me at (508)
    671-9763 (days).  I'd be mainly interested in covering my costs, rather
    than making a profit.  I mainly make these things to keep me in the
    fishing spirit during the winter.
    
    Course there's also smelt...
    
    Tim
    
    (or send mail and I'll give you my home phone #)
    

       How's about posting the Business names/locations of any retailers
    that are having "end-of-season" sales on fishing tackle? It would be
    nice to restock the olde Saltwater boxes and Freshwater boxes...
    
    						see ya out there,
    
    								Bob
    

    The "After Christmas BLOWOUT" flyer from bass pro shops has some good
    deals.  Last night I ordered a boron tennessee grip m/h spinning rod
    for $29.90, reg $59.90. 
    
    -donmac

    Hey Don Mac,
       Can you tell me more about that rod, I saw it but could not make up
    my mind I want to replace 3 rods this year, and was thinking of a good
    deal to boot. Any comment for anyone on that rod would be great, how
    does it compare to the BIONIC BLADE
    
    Les

    Well, when I get it, in 7-9 working days, I'll let you know.  Not
    having seen it, I can't say much.  But it sounds like a nice rod.
    
    For those who haven't seen it, it's the original Boron BHV rod that
    has not been available for awhile.  They are available for a limited time 
    while quantities last. 
    
    They have both casting and spinning rods available.
    
    Another tempting deal was the ABU Black Max baitcasters for $35,
    normally $55.  But currently having 6 or 7 baitcasters in fine shape
    I wasn't able to justify another one...  
    
    But since I was down to a just a couple quality normal size spinning 
    outfits, I had no problem ordring the spinning rod.  If I like it, 
    I'll probably order another one, if they are still available. 
    
    Geez, that's means I'd need another reel too... 8^)
    
    -donmac

Someone put in a request for knowledge of flea markets, but
I couldn't locate the note. Anyway, two flea markets coming
up are:

Charter Boat Captains Flea Market
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re:Boating and Fishing Gear

March 15th, 11-5pm
Elk's Club 
Low Street, Newburyport, Ma

contact Ron Ward 508/462-9072


Merrimack Striper Assoc. Flea Market
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re:Boating and Fishing Gear

March 22nd, 9-3pm
American Legion Bldg.
200 Broadway, Methuen Ma.

Contact: Paul Searle: 508/372-1936

    
    
                               T-BOW'S
    
                           BAIT AND TACKLE
    
                          426 BRIDGE STREET
    
                          LOWELL, MASS 01850
    
    Rod Building Available
     
    Taxidermy
    
    Buy-Sell-Trade      
     
    
    Al 970-1485        Marcel 459-6797

Someone told me that a Bass Pro Shop is opening in Amherst, NH, in the
Wilderness Outfitters complex. Anyone else hear this?

    Wilderness has become a Tracker and Nitro dealer and in the process
    have become an official "Bass Pro Shop" as well.  However they have not 
    started carrying any tackle yet (other than the very few odds and ends 
    that they have had from time to time).  They are considering getting into 
    the tackle buisness but have not yet made the committment.  They are
    concerned that by the time they get setup they'd miss alot of the spring 
    buying season, so they may hold off until next year.  
    
    They'll special order stuff for folks (but you'd probably be better off 
    ordering it yourself).  
    
    -donmac

    I heard that The Kittery trading post is going to have a fishing expo
    this weekend startint thurs night.  There is supposed to be good deald
    and factory reps to answer questions.
    
    Anyone else hear this?
    
    Gordon

    	Wasn't sure where else to put this, I figured this was as good as
    any other place.
    
    	Does anyone know where I can find Igloo Marine Coolers locally???
    
    These are the heavy duty white ones.  I've found the Jumbo 100+ qt.
    size but I'm looking for one ~48 - 54 qt.
    
    Also, if anyone could suggest a GOOD alternate choice I'd appreciate it.
    
    				Thanks,
    					B.C.

    Try Bliss or Boat US, Baert or another marine specialty house, they
    should have them. Rubbermaid also makes marine coolers.
    
    Bruce

    re Igloo coolers. I have seen them, in the smaller sizes at at Caldor,
    abd Bradlee's stores in southern New Hampshire. Also at Service
    Merchandise.
    
    I was told that they do mail order from their factory in Texas. I shall
    investigate that a bit further. 
    
    Peter Q. 

    	If I can't find what I want I'll just get another Coleman Steel
    Belted Cooler....  My last one was good for 20+ years and is now being
    used for a livewell.  The only problem it has is a split in the cover
    liner exposing the foam.  Well.... That and the fact that it looks like
    hell!
    				Thanks again,
    					     B.C.

    BC
    Wish I could remember the acutal brand name. But MVP Sports 101A
    in Nashua has the Mega size coolers. White. Guess they are Igloo. 
    Split top/for seat.. Dont know if other stores carry the same.
    Boomer

    I just rang Igloo in Texas (713) 465 2571, and they are sending me a
    mail order catalog...
    
    q
    

    Does anyone know where I can buy a Newell reel in the Greater Boston
    area? They are incredibly smooth, very fast (5:1 ratios) and very very
    light (about half to a third lighter than Penn or Shimano).
    
    I know Spag's used to carry a few, but I think they dropped the line.
    A place called Angler's Workshop in Woodland, Washington sells them
    mail order, but I'd like to see it before I buy it.
    
    Does anyone know what the Newell equivalent is of the Penn 113H? 
    
    It's time to go to lighter cod jigging equipment.
    
    Thanks
    
    Art
    

I found them in the Offshore Angler's catalog.  My guess is that you want
model 447-5 (300yds 50#) @ 20.2oz for $127.00.  This looks to be the closest
you'll come to the 113h, which is the defacto standard in codfishing reels.

Tim

    Thanks for the info. I was looking at a model G440 (probably not the
    actual Newell model no.) in the Angler's Workshop catalog. It holds
    400 yards of 40#, weighs 18.3 oz, and costs $127. I tend to fish
    lighter line, but it sounds like either one will do.
    
    Art
    

    
    		there is a small tackle shop on rt 139 going towards
    	marshfield in pembroke. its just a short distance from rt 53.
    	Ive seen small newells in the case there. Not sure of the name
    	though. Nice reel though. the only reel I know of thats similiar
    	to it in penn (for casting) is the MAG reels they sell in Bass Pro.
    	about $ 100.00
    
    					Neil.
    

Light line for codfish?  What's the point?

    I've been using a 7' graphite composite rod and a Daiwa 50H spooled
    with 30lb for jigging. It seems to work well. I use a lighter jig
    and I don't kill myself bringing up small cod (that's all there seems to be
    lately).  When I'm on the party boats, I haul out the heavy artillery: 
    the 8 ft jigging rod with the Penn 113H spooled with 50lb Dacron. Then
    I have to use the 14-17 oz jig and kill myself for a half dozen 5lb
    cod.
    
    The lighter line has less drag in the water and the combination of the
    less drag and lighter jig and lighter gear seems to be just as
    effective at all depths. I have always been skeptical about using light
    line because of the high stretch factor of monofilament line, but it
    really works and I like using the 9 oz jig. I've been able to hold
    bottom surprisingly well in most currents. I also like the lighter line
    when the fish aren't taking the jig and I have to switch to bait.
    
    What I want the graphite rod/Newell combo for is to replace the heavy
    stuff I use on the party boats. I'd like to try to get away with 30lb
    line, but I doubt I could do that on the party boats. I suspect I'd
    have to use 40, but I'd like to avoid the 50 lb stuff. The other thing
    about the Newell I like is it's 5:1 gearing. Sure gets you to the top
    faster.
    
    It's tough when you get old -- you look for shortcuts to preserve your
    body.
    
    Art
    

    Before you start switching line weights check out the line
    diameters. You may be able to fish 50lb jinkia at a smaller
    diameter than something like trilene big game at 30. (yes it
    costs more). Mono has less drag than dacron also. Mono will
    work just fine up to 180-200ft after that the line stretch
    is really noticable and going to dacron will improve sensitivity.
    
    Bruce

    Thanks for the tip. I was wondering which lines have the smallest
    diameter and you just answered that question. I've seen the Jinkia
    listed in some of the mail order catalogs. I think that might be the
    best solution . . . Does the 50lb thin line stretch as much as the 50lb
    standard diameter stuff? Just out of curiosity, does anyone know of 
    any studies done on line stretch and give results and brand names? I
    know my father used to use Stren while I used Trilene and I outfished
    him for years. My theory is that the Stren is like chewing gum. Anybody
    have any comments?
    
    Thanks for all the input.
    
    Art

My opinion:

stren is good for hanging pictures, not trophies.  I personally use 50# Ande
tournament green for cod.  It is on the lower of the diameters.  (it is IGFA
class line, however, which means it breaks at <50#)  Jinkai (note the correct
spelling) will cost you.  I've only seen leader spools in the mail order
catalogs, so you'll probably have to pay top $ at a tackle store to get it.

I use an 8' sweet stick (broom handle action) and a 113h w/ the 50# ande.  It
can get tedious using heavy jigs in deep water, but I have also pulled up
all kinds of ghost gear with the terminal tackle intact.  I don't think I
would be as lucky with 30#.

Tim

    You guys weren't kidding about the price of the Jinkai, but I did a little
    research and found that it's less expensive than Dacron and if it has less
    drag in deep water and has reasonably low stretch, it sounds like an
    excellent alternative.
    
    There's a mail order place called Charlie's Tackle in Dartmouth that
    sells Jinkai line -- all sizes. Just for comparison sake here are some
    prices for 50# line:
    
    Jinkai 		1500 yds	$57.03	$.038/yd	Charlies Tackle
    Trilene Big Game	1090 yds	 26.39	 .024/yd	Charlies Tackle
    Hi Seas (small diam)1400 yds	 35.00	 .025/yd	Charlies Tackle
    Ande Pink		1000 yds	 22.00	 .022/yd	Charlies Tackle
    Ande Green (IGFA)	1000 yds	 36.59	 .037/yd	Angler's Wkshop
    Gudebrod Dacron (IGFA)1200 yds	 62.75	 .052/yd	Angler's Wkshop
    US LIne Dacron (IGFA) 1000 yds	 45.90	 .046/yd	Charlies Tackle
    
    Charlie's Custom Rods and Tackle
    PO Box 74
    Dartmouth MA 02714
    1-508-636-3255 (9 am to 7pm)
    
    Angler's Workshop
    1350 Atlantic
    Woodland WA 98674
    Customer Service: 1-206-225-5050
    
    By the way, Charlie's has pretty good prices on all kinds of tackle and he
    will even sell you a custom rod all set up and ready to wrap for the price
    of the blank and parts plus a $5.00 set up charge. He installs the grips,
    reel seat and tapes the guides on.
    
    Angler's Workshop has an incredible selection of blanks for all modes of
    fishing. So many that it's sometimes hard to figure out what to choose, but
    they have an excellent customer service department and will spend the time
    on the phone with you to help pick one.
    
    Thanks to all for your input. I'm much better educated.
    
    Art
    

	Thought you may be intersted.
	The FAIR in Worcester on Rt-20 near the Auburn line is having 
	it's 11th Annual Fishing Fair.

	The Fishing Event has giveaway's Free Fishing for the kids with
	a trout pond for them to fish, factory reps and Chris Hall
	custom rod builder who will be selling some of his crafted rods.
	The Event starts this Fri 12-Feb-93 noon-9pm and Sat 13-Feb-93 9am-5pm

	Sale prices here are pretty competitive and many bargain tables etc.
	The Sale prices are good from Fri-Wed Feb 12-17 it's the event that
	is only this Fri/Sat with all the Factory Reps etc

	It just so happens I'm taking a few vacation day's so will try
	to be there around noon Friday.

	Need to replace a lot of lures and get some other "required" things ;-)
	-< Tuna Tail >-

    Dick, I wouldn't be in to much of a hurry to get there on Friday.
    The Reps usually are late setting up. If your just going to buy tackle 
    then it don't matter. I was there last Friday and a good amount of the
    stuff in the flier was already marked down. 

    Rich

On Sunday, March 14, from 8:00 am to 12:00 noon, there will be the NECCA 
flea market in the Elks Hall on Low Street (runs between route 1 and 113) in
Newburyport, MA

Admission is $1, but the bargains are great!

Tim

re: .37

	Rich,
		You were right.  My wife forgot that I wanted to be at the
	FAIR early so she didn't get home in time for me to leave my Father
	whom I was "Dad" sitting for weekend.

	I made it there by 1:00pm and some of the dealer rep's were still
	not set up.   But I did get to talk to the PENN dealer and got
	what I went for.  A PENN 704Z $44.99 and a Penn Slammer 7' Light Weight
	spinning rod $39.99.  I wanted a 7' Med action rod but they only made
	them in 6'6" so he convinced me that for what I was fishing for
	(Stripers, Blues etc) that the Light would be fine although he
	said the 704Z was a big real for the rod.  I said my "ole" green
	70's PENN 704 has done excellant and I wanted my wife to have the
	same quality.  This was her Valentine's Day gift. ;-)

	I also picked up a few of the $1.99 lures although they didn't have
	many good colors to select from.  I also bought a tackle box for $20
	that will hold all my big/mdeium/small lures.  Great Bargain for
	the size box.

	That PENN 704Z Black/Gold on the all white w Black/gold trip Slammer
	Rod looks awesome.

	Just a "few" more weeks
	-< Tuna Tail >-

Cross Posted in Boats Note File.

Its been 18 months since I last went fishing and I did not get to register my 
boat or buy a license last year.

"""""""""
I took yesterday (6-Jul) off to get my boat/trailer registered and go fishing.
City hall in Nashua was exceptional, at 8:30 there was no one in line and I 
got a very helpfull lady who took my old trailer registration and produced a 
new registration and plate for the modest sum of $9.00 to Nashua, and $4.50 to 
the State of NH. I was out by 8:35.

Now to do the boat: I drove to Pete's Gun & Tackle in Hudson and its closed on 
Tuesday's. I know I should have called first. So I went home and tried to call 
another marina - no answer, so fearing a drive to Dept of MV in Concord, I 
called them, Yet another helpful local government worker, she gave me the name
and phone number of Briand Marine in Nashua.

For all of you in Nashua and especially Spit Brook Road, Briand Marine is 
run by a couple out of their basement. They sell a good selection of fishing,
shooting and  hunting equipment and supplies. They also do NH boat registrtions
and fishing/hunting licenses. (I did not check prices on their products).

The store was run by a very helpful and talkative lady (Rita Briand).

1993 Boat registation of a <12' boat with 3hp electric motor is $20.00. Prices 
go up from there.

	Briand Guns & Tackle  603-888-1717
	18 Waltham Dr. (Off South Main St.) Nashua, NH 03060.

I did get to fish - but that is for the fishing notes file.

David.
"""""""""

I got skunked, but it did feel good to be fishing again.

David.

    Bert's in Pepperal Mass is going out of buisness and has everything for
    30% off (which should bring the prices down to a reasonable level 8^).
    
    I'd guess that prices may come down further as time goes buy.
    
    His Minn-Kota repair buisness will be moving up to his place on Lake
    Wentworth, Wolfeboro NH.

    	Went to the Wal-Mart in Nashua at lunch and they were puling some
    lures off the wall and marking them down to $.80. A couple of the lures
    were small (i.e. good smallmouth sized) shad-rap type Rapalas that were
    marked $3.96 before they repriced them. They were the nuclear green
    pattern. Not my favorite color, but they work.
    
    	I also picked up a couple of small Kastmasters and a couple medium
    sized Mann's crank baits also for $.80 each. Was thinking of trying some 
    trout fishing at Massabesic this year so I picked up a couple bottles of 
    Powerbait paste in red and yellow for $2.74 a bottle. Last I looked, I 
    thought that stuff was closer to $4 a bottle.
    
    
    	RAYJ