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    Welcome, 
             I have had an interest in trying some slope soaring.
    At present I fly powered sport planes but have seen alot of slope
    sailplanes (Bob Martin coyote for one) but I'm totaly green in
    that field. What can you tell me/us about slope soaring for the 
    beginer?
                                              Jim

    Hans,
    
    Welcome to the RC notes conference.  I would be very interested
    in hearing about all aspects of RC soaring in Germany.  Please
    include information about what type of gliders are being flown
    (ie construction, airfoils, etc.), flying sites, launching
    methods, etc.  If possible do not limit your discussion to F3B,
    unless this truly is the only soaring activity being pursued.
    Thanks in advance for the information. 
    
    Regards,
    
    Jim
    
    P.S. My father has a Multiplex Fiesta 90% complete, can you offer
    any insight on what to expect from this ship?

    
>> Is there
>> somebody interested about the results and in the scene of F3B in Germany
>> generally? Let me know it!
    
    Welcome, Hans!  In this conference you will find that _anything_
    related to RC is of interest to at least _someone_!  It would be
    great to have more activity from Germany in the conference.
    
    Bill

    Hi Jim,
     
    Take a glider with a wing span about 2,5 meters, with ailerons, you can
    fly also without ailerons, but and this is very important: "Air brakes 
    and a strong fuselage".
    Why air brakes? Because the wind or the termal lift's are sometimes 
    stronger than in the flats.
    Why a strong fuselage? Because in the beginning of slope soaring, the
    landings are not so smooth.
    If there are more question please don't hesitate and ask.
    
    So long
    
    Hans
    

    Hi Hans!!
    
    Oh what a deal. I'm a member of Pikes Peak Soaring Society and we as a
    group are very interested in F3b. As a matter of fact if your going to
    the f3b Worlds in 92 you'll most likely get to meet a few of us. We are
    allready trying to plan to be there. I think its in Switzerland.
    
    A couple folks in our club are flying F3b now, some Kings, and some
    scratch built stuff in that class. Ever here of Randy Renolds, He's
    mentoring us for F3b and the new S3b class.
    
    As a group we built about 10 Pantera's this year and did very well with
    them. Several of us are now building flat foam wings w/ aelirons and
    flaps. Hoping they will come in under 75 ounces and be legal in S3B.
    
    You know what would be great would be if you have any info on new
    construction techniques or hot new airfoils. Stay in touch and welcome
    aboard!!
    
    				Bob Page P.P.S.S.
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RE: < Note 1117.5 by CSC32::PAGE >
    >    mentoring us for F3b and the new S3b class.
                                          ^^^

        I didn't know that there is a "new" S3B class in FAI competition,
        did they trash the old one?  It was also known as B Parachute
        Duration.

    Don (who's also a model rocketeer)

    Hello Hans :
    Welcome! All the responses seem to indicate there is a significant
    interest in Soaring in Germany, includeing me. My name is Ron Watts,
    and I too am in the Pikes Peak Soaring Society (PPSS). Bob Page and I fly
    together. As he stated we are very interested in F3B. Any information
    you have would be most appreciated.
    
    I am also the Editor of the PPSS newsletter the "Spoiler". Send me you
    address and mail you a copy. If you club has a newsletter maybe we could
    exchange them. I'm sure I can get help with translation from German to
    English.
    
    Presently several of us are experimenting with composite construction,
    includeing Fiberglass, carbon fiber and vacuum bag techniques. We have
    some Comet style fuselages on order and will built composite wings for
    them. Hopefully we will get good at F3B and come for a visit someday.
    
    Ron Watts
    Genral::Watts  

    
    Hello Ron,
    
    Thank you for the nice wellcome and thanks for the offer of your 
    newsletter the "Spoiler".
    
    My address is:      Hans Karnitschnik
                        Riesenfeldstr.45
                        8000 M�nchen 40
                        Germany
    
    I'm sorry but our club hasn't a newsletter wich I could send you.
    Maybe we can met us in Switzerland WC92 or better:
    Come and fly at the world greatest F3B competition, here in Munich.
    It's every year in September. If you are interested in I can give you 
    more information. This year was an American here. I belive -?- Dawson was   
    his name.
    
    Bob Page asked me about new construction techniques and hot airfoils.
    Tell him: It's all the same like the last years.
    Airfoils are Quabeck HQ 1,5/8 - 2/9 or Giersberger RG 14 and 15.
    With this wonderfull new (small) winches there aren't new gliders
    necessary. We get still 250 - 300 meters high.
    
    Best wishes
       
    Hans

    
    Hello F3B friends.
    
    A happy new year from Germany.
    
    I've got dates of international F3B competitions in Europe. Most of them
    are in June.
    
    1.       2.-4. June in Luzern, Switzerland
    2.       8.-10. June in Cron ( EOLE ), France
    3.       15.-17. June in Bled, Yugoslavia
    4.       21.-23. September in Munich, Germany
    
    If I get new dates I will tell you.
    
    I wish all of you a good season.
    
    Hans