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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

962.0. "Beware!! Hard-to-Read Plans" by BRNIN::SOUTIERE () Fri Apr 14 1989 09:44

    I'd like to start a note on planes who's plans are only good for
    starting a fire in the woodstove.   If they need to be modified
    or deciphered, we can help out here.
    
    
    
    Here's one for starters;
    
    	GEE BEE SEAHAWK
    
    		Fuse is moderatly understandable.
    		Tail feathers are no problem.
    		Wing........Forget it!!!!
    
    
    	The wing will definetly have to be modified for stability reasons.
    I can't see making ailerons out of Rib Tips and sheeting.  Yes....the
    ailerons are hollow!
    
    Ken
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962.1yuckDISCVR::JONEILLFri Apr 14 1989 10:181
    MARKS JEMCO  (now Dynaflight) fun scale mustang (.60 size)
962.2Sleepy HollowK::FISHERStop and Smell the Balsa!Fri Apr 14 1989 10:4017
>    I can't see making ailerons out of Rib Tips and sheeting.  Yes....the
>    ailerons are hollow!
    
Ken - hollow ailerons are quite common - I have hollow ailerons on my 
Aeromaster and the 2 Berliner-Joyce's.  I have had problems with solid
ailerons when the balsa was not real hard.  Sheeting over rib caps makes
ailerons very rigid and the covering over that can add a lot more
rigidity and strength.  The plans may stink but the ailerons might be OK.

P.S.  The Mark Models fun scale (.40) sized Mustang also had poor 
      instructions - but my greatest complaint was the strength of the
      forward fuselage.

Bye          --+--
Kay R. Fisher  |
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962.3Royal's Cessna 172CLOSUS::TAVARESJohn -- Stay low, keep movingFri Apr 14 1989 14:567
Royal's Cessna 172 -- the bulkheads are drawn every which way, so
you have to try and fit them on the drawing to figure out which
side goes up, and one bulkhead, the last one is completely wrong.

Also, the model from the plans is a mix-match of several year's
versions.  But I've a hunch that this last one is relatively
common. 
962.4Sun Fli 4-20PTOMV4::MATSCHERZWed Apr 19 1989 18:3610
    BEWARE, 
       The "quality" of some of Great planes' products are not so quality.
    I recently built and crashed a bad example of a Sun-Fli 4-20. It
    had some of the worst plans I had ever seen and they were wrong
    to boot. 
    
      PS  The plane was real fast!
    
    			Steve M in the Pitts....
    
962.5A CERTAIN AMOUNT IS TO BE EXPECTED, GUYS....PNO::CASEYATHE DESERT RAT (I-RC-AV8)Wed Apr 19 1989 19:4629
    Just to make a general statement on the subject, I'd like to submit
    that, the further one advances from the beginners' stage, the less
    and less detailed become the plans/instructions included in kits.
    
    Logic suggests that the mfgr's assume (perhaps rightly so) that
    the more building experience one attains (as indicated by the
    complexity of the kit), the less specific/detailed the plans/ 
    instructions need to be.  This holds true up thru and including high
    caliber scale kits which include little more than a rough construction
    drawing and literally no written instructions whatever.  The builder
    is assumed to have the skill/ability to lay out and build in such
    things as flaps, retracts etc.
    
    I appreciate that a newcomer would be dumfounded should he come
    into possession of one of these kits, but that's my point: stay
    within your skill level at any given point in time and be prepared
    to find less and less "glue-tab-A-into-slot-A" type instructions
    as your skills and the complexity of your models increases.  There
    comes a time when you no longer need that extent of detail and the
    mfgr's, realizing this, leave it out.
    
    On the other hand, I'll offer no defense for a set of sloppy,
    inaccurate or just plain _bad_ plans/instructions.

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      | |      00	 Adios,      Al
    |_|_|      ( >o
      |    Z__(O_\_	(The Desert Rat)

962.6Royal ElectronicsPOBOX::KAPLOWSet the WAYBACK machine for 1982Thu Apr 20 1989 19:246
        I don't recall the name they use now, but Royal RC (the
        electronics part of the company) has horrible instructions for
        their kits. Many things were left out (like connect the RF board
        output to the antenna), many were wrong (polarity on the charger),
        many were confusing or unclear. Their 1/2A receiver wasn't as bad
        as the rest, but I'd avoid these in kit form.