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| 923.1 | "Please don't Snap-roll" | VERSA::TULANKO |  | Thu Mar 09 1989 16:44 | 21 | 
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    		Wayne,
    
    	I have an Electra that I built last year to use as a vacation
    plane without having to haul my flight box , extra fuel , etc...
    around . Its a good flier , but not too aerobatic . It's a typical
    sailplane(sluggish and slow to respond to controls) , but still
    fun . Seeing how you made the plane more aerobatic , did you re-
    inforce the wing by using hardwood spars or something similar?
    If not , does the wing seem strong enough to handle the extra stress
    being put on it ? I'd also like to know if you changed the dihedral
    any and how well it rolls . My Electra has seen alot of neglect,
    mainly because of limited aerobatics . Sounds like you came up on
    something .
    
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    					    ____O____
    					     
    							Carl
    
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| 923.2 | Sloooo snap roll | DACT6::DICKSON | Wayne Dickson | Wed Mar 15 1989 12:22 | 20 | 
|  |     carl,
    
    The plans called for the dihedral (in the center) to be made
    of ply that was pre-cut, (actually it was pre-CRUNCHed, the
    die-cutting was really poor) I used the same angle and re-
    inforced the center with cloth (typ.) At the second dihedral
    I also joined with ply and cloth.  The wing loading is not that
    dramatic... but I did add shear webs from the center to the
    outboard panel.
    
    I also have an Electri-Cub from Great Plains and with a geared
    reduction .15 and 8.4V pack I get good acrobatics.  
    
    The Electra flies "cleaner" with (1) dihedral but does have
    more of a tendency to tip stall at power-off times.  Still
    working on a hammerhead stall! but really, the plane does
    do rolls and for a "cheap" thrill at electric performance
    it was well worth the building time and real fun to experiment!
    
    Wayne.
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| 923.3 | Thanks for the tip | VERSA::TULANKO |  | Thu Mar 16 1989 11:21 | 13 | 
|  |     
    Wayne ,
    
    		I thank you for the input . the electra kit is inexpensive 
    that I can afford another one to experiment with . Will give it a try ,
    and thanks again . PS; You wern't kidding about the die cutting on this
    one . the piper is the same way with alot of slop in the rib cuts for 
    the main spars too . But they're still good fliers .
    
    						Keep em' flying ,
    
    							Carl
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| 923.4 | ELECTRIC LADY? | NYJOPS::BOBA | Bob Aldea @PCO | Thu Oct 26 1989 08:19 | 13 | 
|  |     I've been told that the Gentle Lady works well as an electric and
    doesn't really need the stronger wing of the Electra/Sophisticated
    Lady.  More recently an article in MB mentioned that a modified
    Lady was the lightest 7 cell sailplane at the Astro Soar meet. 
    The combination of better and cheaper seems worth investigation,
    and I thought it might be a nice addition to the hanger, although 
    with the aerobatic mods in this note, the wing strength might be a 
    problem.  
    
    The modifications were detailed in an old (Feb'85?) issue of Model
    Builder.  I'd guess that the fuselage needs widening, and maybe
    a longer nose?  Can anyone provide a copy of the article, or 
    recommended modifications based on personal experience?
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| 923.5 | Home sick angel called Elektra | ODIHAM::WARWICK_B |  | Tue Jan 09 1990 08:04 | 48 | 
|  |     Eric,
    
    I can't remember your rules for the winter project -- you only 
    implemented one in the end did you not -- there aint no rules! or
    was there a second one saying rule 1 could not be changed?
    
    Anyway as a spur to my building ( having declared to all and sundry 
    that I will do it then I have an incentive! ) I will finish building
    the Goldberg Elektra which I bought back in Oct/Nov.
    
    I have not flown electric before or even been close to one flying
    so I did not know what to expect. I guess that from this notesfile
    I came to the conclusion that there are two types of electric plane
    -- the small wingspan fast aerobatic kind and the thermal style
    with electric assist rather than bungee or winch.
    
    Anyway I chose the Elektra for some easy stick time -- blast for
    the sky and then float around!
    
    Some of you may say that I cannot expect this bird to head for heaven
    at a vast rate of knots. However, I was eye-balling all the hardware
    which has to go into the fuse last night and figuring out where
    it ought to go when I decided to put the prop on the motor and hook
    up the battery for a staic thrust test.
    
    The motor is a 550 direct drive and the prop is a Graupner folding
    8" x 4.5" ( I do not plan to use the standard Goldberg prop supplied
    as I did not want to prang it on landing ). The nicad pack is a
    standard 6 cell Sanyo.
    
    Anyway, I hooked it up and grasping the motor firmly flicked the
    switch --- WWOOWW the prop wash nearly ripped the shirt of my back
    but as soon as the motor hit full revs ( 2 seconds? ) the prop assembly
    flew off the motor shaft and hurtled accross the room -- 10 feet
    without a drop in altitude!!
    
    I had not tightened up the collet enough -- obviously!
    
    I know the plane is going to weigh a few pounds with the nicad being
    a large part of this but this motor/prop sure seems to give some
    thrust!                                            
    
    Sorry to ramble -- expect to see some photos in a month or so.
    
    Regards
    
    Brian
    
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