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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

923.0. "Electra w/ 1 dihedral" by DACT6::DICKSON (Wayne Dickson) Wed Mar 08 1989 13:36

    After a fatal crash...., I had the opportunity to rebuild
    a new Electra or reconstruct just the fuse.  With 50 - 60
    degree weekends right around the corner I opted to build 
    just the fuse.
              
    This allowed for some experimentation with the remaining
    new wing.......
        
    I used only one (1) dihedral ( at the center ) and ailerons !
                 
    INCREDIBLE!! the small amount of extra weight was negligible
    and the increase in acrobatics was well worth the effort.              
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923.1"Please don't Snap-roll"VERSA::TULANKOThu Mar 09 1989 16:4421
    
    
    		Wayne,
    
    	I have an Electra that I built last year to use as a vacation
    plane without having to haul my flight box , extra fuel , etc...
    around . Its a good flier , but not too aerobatic . It's a typical
    sailplane(sluggish and slow to respond to controls) , but still
    fun . Seeing how you made the plane more aerobatic , did you re-
    inforce the wing by using hardwood spars or something similar?
    If not , does the wing seem strong enough to handle the extra stress
    being put on it ? I'd also like to know if you changed the dihedral
    any and how well it rolls . My Electra has seen alot of neglect,
    mainly because of limited aerobatics . Sounds like you came up on
    something .
    
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    							Carl
    
923.2Sloooo snap rollDACT6::DICKSONWayne DicksonWed Mar 15 1989 12:2220
    carl,
    
    The plans called for the dihedral (in the center) to be made
    of ply that was pre-cut, (actually it was pre-CRUNCHed, the
    die-cutting was really poor) I used the same angle and re-
    inforced the center with cloth (typ.) At the second dihedral
    I also joined with ply and cloth.  The wing loading is not that
    dramatic... but I did add shear webs from the center to the
    outboard panel.
    
    I also have an Electri-Cub from Great Plains and with a geared
    reduction .15 and 8.4V pack I get good acrobatics.  
    
    The Electra flies "cleaner" with (1) dihedral but does have
    more of a tendency to tip stall at power-off times.  Still
    working on a hammerhead stall! but really, the plane does
    do rolls and for a "cheap" thrill at electric performance
    it was well worth the building time and real fun to experiment!
    
    Wayne.
923.3Thanks for the tipVERSA::TULANKOThu Mar 16 1989 11:2113
    
    Wayne ,
    
    		I thank you for the input . the electra kit is inexpensive 
    that I can afford another one to experiment with . Will give it a try ,
    and thanks again . PS; You wern't kidding about the die cutting on this
    one . the piper is the same way with alot of slop in the rib cuts for 
    the main spars too . But they're still good fliers .

    
    						Keep em' flying ,
    
    							Carl
923.4ELECTRIC LADY?NYJOPS::BOBABob Aldea @PCOThu Oct 26 1989 09:1913
    I've been told that the Gentle Lady works well as an electric and
    doesn't really need the stronger wing of the Electra/Sophisticated
    Lady.  More recently an article in MB mentioned that a modified
    Lady was the lightest 7 cell sailplane at the Astro Soar meet. 
    The combination of better and cheaper seems worth investigation,
    and I thought it might be a nice addition to the hanger, although 
    with the aerobatic mods in this note, the wing strength might be a 
    problem.  
    
    The modifications were detailed in an old (Feb'85?) issue of Model
    Builder.  I'd guess that the fuselage needs widening, and maybe
    a longer nose?  Can anyone provide a copy of the article, or 
    recommended modifications based on personal experience?
923.5Home sick angel called ElektraODIHAM::WARWICK_BTue Jan 09 1990 08:0448
    Eric,
    
    I can't remember your rules for the winter project -- you only 
    implemented one in the end did you not -- there aint no rules! or
    was there a second one saying rule 1 could not be changed?
    
    Anyway as a spur to my building ( having declared to all and sundry 
    that I will do it then I have an incentive! ) I will finish building
    the Goldberg Elektra which I bought back in Oct/Nov.
    
    I have not flown electric before or even been close to one flying
    so I did not know what to expect. I guess that from this notesfile
    I came to the conclusion that there are two types of electric plane
    -- the small wingspan fast aerobatic kind and the thermal style
    with electric assist rather than bungee or winch.
    
    Anyway I chose the Elektra for some easy stick time -- blast for
    the sky and then float around!
    
    Some of you may say that I cannot expect this bird to head for heaven
    at a vast rate of knots. However, I was eye-balling all the hardware
    which has to go into the fuse last night and figuring out where
    it ought to go when I decided to put the prop on the motor and hook
    up the battery for a staic thrust test.
    
    The motor is a 550 direct drive and the prop is a Graupner folding
    8" x 4.5" ( I do not plan to use the standard Goldberg prop supplied
    as I did not want to prang it on landing ). The nicad pack is a
    standard 6 cell Sanyo.
    
    Anyway, I hooked it up and grasping the motor firmly flicked the
    switch --- WWOOWW the prop wash nearly ripped the shirt of my back
    but as soon as the motor hit full revs ( 2 seconds? ) the prop assembly
    flew off the motor shaft and hurtled accross the room -- 10 feet
    without a drop in altitude!!
    
    I had not tightened up the collet enough -- obviously!
    
    I know the plane is going to weigh a few pounds with the nicad being
    a large part of this but this motor/prop sure seems to give some
    thrust!                                            
    
    Sorry to ramble -- expect to see some photos in a month or so.
    
    Regards
    
    Brian