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Title:Welcome To The Radio Control Conference
Notice:dir's in 11, who's who in 4, sales in 6, auctions 19
Moderator:VMSSG::FRIEDRICHS
Created:Tue Jan 13 1987
Last Modified:Thu Jun 05 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1706
Total number of notes:27193

290.0. "Uk radio" by THESUN::DAY (Just playing with my chopper....) Mon Aug 31 1987 07:08




	Hya Keith...

		I thought that name was familiar... when did you 
	escape from the CSC?...

		One could thing that came out of the CB craze
	was the abolition of the RC model license. Don't have to 
	worry about detector vans creeping up behind you while
	you fly.

		27 megs is still used for planes, aswell as boats,
	cars, illegal CB and anything else people want to put
	RC into. Because of the close proximity of our site to
	the M3 we do not allow 27 meg gear to be used.. It is
	ok at our other site. Other clubs may have their own rules.

		On the other hand 35 megs is allocated for aircraft
	and aircraft ONLY. So there is far less chance of getting shot
	down but a kid with one of these electric car thingies. 6 new
	channels 60,81,82,83,84,85 have recently been allocated to RC
	model aeroplanes. I think that somewhere around the 40 meg range
	has been set aside for surface craft... We still have a slot
	somewhere in the 475 meg range, but I beleive UHF gear is somewhat
	rare.       


	The main sloping site in this area is Watership downs at Kingsclere.
	I seem to remember there is someone at DECpark who's heavily into
	slope soarers....

	Boats??????


	bob
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290.1Really getting started this time...RDGENG::NODDLEand then I said 'of course it'll fly'...Wed Sep 02 1987 09:1135
    Hello Bob,
    
    Escaped earlier this year (March). Discovered NOTES "properly" about a
    week ago (where have I been???). Thanks for the info - I remember
    getting my first licence age 13 and thinking it would never run
    out.
    
    I'm hoping to join RADMAC (Reading & District etc etc) soon. They fly
    from a remote-ish site near to my home and I hope they'll let me use
    27MHz until I can afford 35.
    
    I've started the Apprentice 60 I bought just after meeting you (luckily
    the cardboard hasn't deteriorated with age...). Builds really quickly
    and is self jigging - even when you modify it to take ailerons (should
    have bought the right kit in the first place!).
    
    I've found the slope soarer in the file and I hope to get in touch
    soon. Now I'm thinking a bit harder about the modelling game, I'm
    not sure where to start. I think I'll stick with the "tried and
    tested" power 'planes first and maybe try gliding etc later.
    
    Yes boats!! I'm quite taken with yatchs but at present I'm not too
    keen on racing (there certainly seem to be a LOT of rules); maybe
    this will change. I'm trying to take a look at the Oxford club,
    but haven't found a contact yet.
    
    Hopefully getting an intro to RADMAC from Brian Warwick (CSS) this
    evening (if it doesn't rain).
    
    CU
    
    Keith
    
    P.S. I may be thinking of the wrong place, but don't you need Serpas
    and a packed lunch to reach Watership Down??
290.240Mhz Radios in the UK under �100!GALLOP::NELSONRRob Nelson @EOOThu Jan 12 1989 05:0238
In May 1987 the 40Mhz Radio Control Band became available in the UK for 
surface models.  We have had 35Mhz for aircraft for a number of years.  Prior
to May '87 27Mhz was all that we surface guys could use.  Thanks to fairly
prompt action in the late '60s to outlaw the sale of CB equipment and the
legalisation of FM CB rigs in the early '80s, 27Mhz is generally usable.

During '87 there were few 40Mhz rigs avaialable, the only one that comes to mind
was a Multiplex rig.  RC Cars on 40Mhz were rare.  During '88 the availability
has improved with JR and others coming to the market.  Until now equipment
has been expensive, typically �140 (� = $1.8) for a two channel TX, RX and two 
servos.  The crystals from different manufacturers have not been interchangable
and so have remained expensive, compared to 27Mhz.

Futaba have just announced a 40Mhz version of the Attack for about �70, compared
with �45 for the 27Mhz version.  BTW you can get a 27Mhz pistol grip/ steering
wheel rig for under �30!  Crystals for the Futaba are claimed to be plentyful
so 40Mhz looks like taking off.

The details of the 40Mhz license are as follows:  30 channels spaced at 10Khz 
from 40.665Mhz to 40.955Mhz inclusive, using FM.  So far we havn't seen any
problems with cars on ajacent channels.  

For the sake of completeness there has been for a number of years an RC band
in the 400Mhz region, I can't remember exactly where and equipment is very, very
rare.  I have heard of RC Yachts on this band.

Ten years ago, when I first got into RC there was a license required which cost 
only a few pounds and lasted 5 years.  By the time mine came up for remewal it
had been abolished.

Now that 40Mhz is available with 30 channels and we have 12 on 27Mhz I can't
to run a 42 car race!  Seriously AMB have the capability to expand their 10
channel counting transponder system to 20 so we may yet see some 'busy' races!

Happy New Year,

Rob    bbk Racing

290.327 MHz is free for all - don't use it!LASHAM::WARWICK_BFri Aug 11 1989 08:3645
    Angus,
    
    quoted from the BMFA ( was SMAE ) Members' Handbook ( without their
    permission ) ....
    
    1.2.6 Radio Control Frequencies
    
    With effect from 21 May 1987, Statutory Instrument 776/87 confirmed
    the following frequency bands for model control equipment:
    
    1.	29.96 MHz to 27.28 MHz. Effective radiated power 100 mW. General
    	use.
    
    2.	34.995 MHz to 35.255 MHz. Effective radiated power 100mW. Model
    	aircraft use only.
    
    3.	40.665 MHz to 40.995 MHz. Effective radiated power 100mW. Surface
    	vehicles only.
    
    4.	458.5 MHz to 459.5 MHz. Effective radiated power 100mW. General
    	use and telemtry.
    
    In short - aircraft have their band now ( 35 MHz ) and cars/boats
    have their own ( 40 MHz ).
    
    You cannot generally get 458 MHz stuff.
    
    Anyone can use 27 MHz for any model use - cars, boats or planes.
    
    My personal recommendation is don't use 27MHz - it is also used for
    pagers, etc. and you are quite likely to get shot-down by these
    or neighbourhood kids using 27 MHz on their R/C buggies.
    
    If you fly in the middle of nowhere then you would be OK but my
    advice is invest in a new R/C set-up - prices are pretty good these
    days - you should be able to get a 4 or 6 channel outfit with nicads
    rather than dry battery, chargers, 4 servos, etc for �150 ish (
    that's about $250 to $270 for our US colleagues! ) - even at the
    cost of R/C gear in the UK I think this cheap protection for your
    valuable building time.
    
    Regards and good luck
    
    Brian