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Conference vmszoo::airguns

Title:AIRGUNS
Moderator:STAR::BUDA
Created:Wed Feb 19 1986
Last Modified:Thu May 08 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:235
Total number of notes:1156

228.0. "Current advice for newbies?" by EMMET::MULLEN (Dan Mullen, DEC C/C++) Wed Oct 19 1994 08:47

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228.1Talking to myself...EMMET::MULLENDan Mullen, DEC C/C++Wed Oct 26 1994 13:2332
228.2You are not alone...almost...:-)BSS::VIGILThu Oct 27 1994 16:0621
228.3It Lives!!EMMET::MULLENDan Mullen, DEC C/C++Fri Oct 28 1994 13:2921
228.4Better Late Than Never...Maybe !MINGLE::KINGMon Nov 14 1994 15:0838
228.5I want oneSUBPAC::ASERMELYFri Dec 02 1994 01:312
228.6try Cabela's CatalogMSBCS::MCNULTYWed Jan 11 1995 06:2210
228.7WANTED 48PCBUOA::FRATONISat Mar 11 1995 20:268
228.8Buy a new one?STAR::BUDAI am the NRAThu Mar 16 1995 18:3713
228.9Weak and cheapPCBUOA::BAYJJim, PortablesMon Feb 24 1997 14:2528
    If this isn't controversial enough to get a string going, well...
    
    I'd like to get a real cheap airgun.  Unlike most who want power and
    accuracy, I only need it to be accurate to about 30 feet, and I really
    don't want it to do much damage.  In fact, I'd just as soon it would
    sting a little, maybe not even break the skin.
    
    We have a lot of feral cats that come around our place, because we have
    an indoor cat, and the scent attracts them.  They are a real nuisance. 
    Unfortunately, even though its against the rules, many neighbors have
    cats that they let run around loose, as well.  So I don't want to kill
    or maim them, just make them think twice about strolling into my back
    yard.
    
    I had what was probably a cheap, single stroke "BB" gun growing up in
    the 60s.  A tube filled with BBs (30-40?) screwed into the barrel.  I
    remember shooting rats in our basement, and the first shot was never
    fatal.  If I still had it, I think it would be fine.  Frankly, I think
    a pistol might be more than sufficient.
    
    Is this about the quality of gun you'd get in Wal-Mart or what have
    you?  About what would they run?  Are there different size BBs?  I'd
    think larger would be less likely to do real damage, at least to skin.
    
    Thanks for you advice.
    
    jeb
    
228.10REDZIN::COXTue Feb 25 1997 11:3443
>    accuracy, I only need it to be accurate to about 30 feet, and I really
>    a pistol might be more than sufficient.

Actually, 33ft is competition distance for air pistols.

I had the same kind of need about a year ago only I wanted to go after 
squirrels; not to kill them, just to "get their attention" and cause them some
discomfort.  It took me quite a while to get advice.

Since I was an Expert rifleman for Uncle Sam far_too_many_years_ago, I knew
that the worst thing I could do is get something that would not put the pellets
in the same spot when "bench fired"; I would get so frustrated that I would
stop using the pistol. 

I found that prices for air pistols range from $49.95 Walmart pump-em-up
specials all the way up to over $1K for barrel-break, dual piston competition 
pistols. 

I tried the $50, $80, $150 "el cheapo's".  Best I could do at 33 ft was 
multiple pellets in a 6" circle.  And the bb's go so bloody slow you can 
actually watch them wobbling on their way to your target.

After much searching around, I picked up a Dynamit Nobel/RWS 5 air pistol.  It
is considered to be the bottom_of_the_top_of_the_line target pistols.  Many
folks called it the best buy.  My son fires with a US Marine Corps competition
team and they recommended the RWS 5 for practice. It lists for $250, you can
get it in NH for around $200.  With that pistol, I consistently put 3 pellets
in a 2" circle; If I am careful, I can get 3 pellets in the space of a dime. 

Although the "time of flight" is rated at only 450fps, the RWS 5 puts enough
energy in the shot that you can "get the attention" of a varmint up to about
60ft using the flat headed target pellets.  Of course, you can use the hollow
points which, for some reason that escapes me, deliver even more energy.  Or
you can use the pointed pellets if you want to play Brave Hunter. 

You can get more detailed info on the RWS 5 on their web page at

http://www.register.com/rws/p0000141.htm

Luck,

Dave

228.11PCBUOA::BAYJJim, PortablesTue Feb 25 1997 12:418
    Thanks for the excellent information, Dave!
    
    I figured 30 feet because thats about all the backyard I have.  My
    targets tend to wander in a lot closer than that.  But I'll take your
    advice into consideration.
    
    jeb
    
228.12PCBUOA::KRATZTue Mar 04 1997 10:533
    Given the proximity, the yard size, and gun laws (if Massachusetts,
    ses note 130.4,.5), you might want to consider a slingshot.
    Quieter, too.  K