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Title:	The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:	Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:	SALEM::PAPPALARDO

Created:	Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:	Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:	Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:	1561
Total number of notes:	17784

1554.0. "NH Trapping Ban Bill" by MTADMS::RUMAN () Wed Feb 05 1997 08:43

    
      Well New Hampshirites, the time has come. The Union Leader has a
    story this morning on a trapping ban bill. Fortunately, it looks to be
    shot down relatively quickly. F&G voted unanimously against it, but it
    definitely sends up a red flag for both hunters and fisher(people).
    Mass. pushed it through so we'll have to be on our guard. The usual
    pros and cons were mentioned. Suffering animals and pets vs. popula-
    tion control, lost revenue, and additional costs for nuisance animal
    control. The paper didn't appear to take a side on it. We seem to have
    a few voices in our favor. Mentioned were the fact that stray dogs that
    aren't looked after by their owners are the only ones in danger and 
    wildlife management and heritage were brought up. The one thing that
    bothered me the most was Beverly Leo of NH Humane Org. saying that 
    trapping is a barbaric practice and that there is a strong connection
    between violent crimes against humans and brutality against small
    animals. How people can come upon such logic is totally ridiculous. 
    At any rate, we are going to have to keep on our toes and make our
    voices heard to block these attacks on our livelihood. A sad day, but
    this is getting to be the norm throughout the various states in this
    day and age. If we don't actively oppose these measures, we will
    certainly see our freedoms slowly dissipate. As has been stated in here 
    many times before, once they start with one measure, they continue on
    until they try to keep you from taking your kids to the local pond to
    catch a few panfish. Don't allow it to happen.
    
    
                                                            Eric

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1554.1	I don't think so..	ACISS2::VANDENBARK	Outdoors is where I belong	`Wed Feb 05 1997 14:02`	13
	Eric, Let me get this right... A connection between human violence and small animal trapping... I don't remember seeing too many inner city gangs while being afield, I guess I must have missed them. Hummm.... Something else to make me shake my head. It is hard to believe. Wess
1554.2	Huge RED FLAG!!!!!	MSBCS::MERCIER		`Thu Feb 06 1997 09:03`	18
	You Say......."Fourtunately, it looks to be shot down relatively quickly. F&G voted unanimously against it, etc...." Sorry, but so did Massachusetts F&G. Soon there will little peta and propaw people standing outside Grocery Stores with petitions to get a vote to stop the cruel practice of trapping........They like grocery stores. For some funny reason there is more of a sympathetic vote..... Good Luck.......... Call SAM (Sportsmen's Alliance of Maine) and ask how you can get organized before you all get chisled apart like us Mass Dummies are. Maine Sportsmen saw the light many moons ago!!!! Now they are a huge lobby.........We in Mass are out lobbied 6 to 1 still. Bob M.....
1554.3		ALASKA::LAFOSSE	WHEN THE BULLET HITS THE BONE...	`Thu Feb 06 1997 09:24`	23
	Ditto what Bob said... It came across the House as H5779 and was resoundingly defeated in committee. Not only were the F&W opposed, but the following were against it as well: Executive Office of Environmental Affairs Dept. of Environmental Management Dept. of Food and Agriculture Environmental Law Enforcement Metropolitan District Commission (MDC) the people in charge of the Quabbin Dept. of Environmental Protection F&W Board The PETA/ProPaws people had petitions signed and it was placed on the ballot. It was presented to the public falsely and the people bought it lock, stock and barrel. You have the foresight to fight it now... you know how they do it, and you know their going to.... what you do about it NOW, will speak volumes later. Or you can be fat, dumb and happy till they bite you in the ass come november. Fra
1554.4	Don't Let it Happen to You	5194::BURROWS	Racers Ready...3...2...1...	`Thu Feb 06 1997 10:13`	27
	I have to agree also. When we first heard about it and the groups listed in the previous note all came out against it, we all thought the ballot question would be severely defeated. After all, it was obvious that anyone knowlegable in the field was against it. NEVER EVER doubt the passion of the PETA people and how ruthless they will be in their pursuit of their goal. We all saw the tear-jerk ad featuring the traps which had been banned many, many years ago. We all saw three-legged Fido (as if all injured pets were the result of traps). We all saw petitions and banners at shopping malls and major intersections. We did NOT see video of Fido and friends tearing a deer apart; we did not see video of starved and emaciated deer due to over population. We did not see video of the ever increasing big game/car encounters resulting in great property loss and death. We did not see video of the result of beaver (or other rodent) overpopulation. No one presented or fought for our point of view. We relied on the common sense of the electorate. We learned a lesson. Please, people of New Hampshire, do not take this lightly; the great suburban masses can be easily swayed by tear-jerk tactics. Fight back. Clark
1554.5		ALASKA::LAFOSSE	WHEN THE BULLET HITS THE BONE...	`Thu Feb 06 1997 10:23`	4
	Why can't/don't we as sportsman have petitions signed to try and overide last years fiasco??? Fra
1554.6	thanks	MTADMS::RUMAN		`Thu Feb 06 1997 10:41`	6
	Thanks for all the input and the good advice guys......and keep it coming. The more avenues we have to fight these measures, the better off we'll be. Eric
1554.7	repeal the 22nd ammendment	HIGHD::MELENDEZ		`Fri Feb 07 1997 14:39`	5
	What we need to do is repeal the 22nd amendment Then we wouldnt have the bambi huggers involved in these matters, hey they elected clinton. Joe
1554.8	round one...	MTADMS::RUMAN		`Fri Feb 21 1997 13:36`	9
	Well, I overheard a member of NH Wildlife Federation saying that this bill was shot down something like 286-56. If this is the case, round one goes to us, but we had better keep on our toes, because these ill- informed people don't give up easily. I'm sure we've just seen the tip of the iceberg. >>>---Eric--->