Title: | The Hunting Notesfile |
Notice: | Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270 |
Moderator: | SALEM::PAPPALARDO |
Created: | Wed Sep 02 1987 |
Last Modified: | Tue Jun 03 1997 |
Last Successful Update: | Fri Jun 06 1997 |
Number of topics: | 1561 |
Total number of notes: | 17784 |
Cool barrel, scrubbed mercilessly, wiped dry and a single fouling shot sent down range. Chrono set up, 15ft away... the test begins. A 7mm Shooting Times Westerner fireformed cartridge is loaded into the Remington 700BDL. A Leupold 6.5x20 sits on top of the 1989 FS version which has been restocked into an HS Precision custom Sporter. The cartridge, one of five, is part of a special test project representing many hours of range work. The case has been fireformed, reamed, sized, trimmed, annealed, polished and weighed. These five are within a grain of each other (257gr). The primer pocket and neck walls have been uniformed and trued. A Sierra 100gr Varmitter sits atop 90grains of IMR7828. The bullet is seated out a little but still over .125 from the rifle lands. It is two short to get closer. AND the cartridge itself is too long to allow much bullet spacing. The action will not feed anything longer than 3.680" through the magazine. I squeeze off the 32oz trigger, trying to time between heartbeats showing on the target at 20x. The 24" barrel emits impressive concussion. This cartridge really could use a longer barrel. All in good time. Recoil is impressive, but soaked up by the decellerator pad. 3951fps on the chrono reading makes me smile. Yessir, up in the stratosphere. Looking through the scope, I see that the bullet survived, striking two inches low and an inch right of center. After five or so minutes and when the barrel loses its warm to touch condition, I touch off the second cartridge. 3942fps reads the chrono which is set 15 feet away. The target still only shows one hole. %&#$! Did I aim at the wrong one? Or does that hole look slightly elongated vertically? After studying it for a few minutes, I decide that it really is an overlap. Load up #3 and do it again. This time the chrono still says 3942fps but the "duplicate" indicator is lit. Wow....Consistancy in spades. The target still only shows one hole. I have to get up and walk around to work off the rush. A bug hole with a belted magnum. Compared to the scapels in use around me (I'm shooting with a bunch of benchrest guys using 6mmPPC and other exotica) I'm using a sledgehammer. But targets do not lie. I'm running out of time. This #2 taper (.650") does not soak up the heat. I launch number four while the barrel is slightly warm. 3938fps and just a bit left. Still overlapped but definately a bigger hole now. The load is a tremendous success. No doubt about that part, but still one to go. The two minute warning comes just a few seconds after my last shot. The barrel is moderately hot now. I give it until the "fire round in chamber and move back from bench" command. Boom! 3921fps. About .25" of paper between that one off to the left. Bummer.... four and one. The group was a high "2" (less than .300") prior. But this is NOT a bench rest gun. It is a plain old, plain old. Other than the HS stock it is simply a 7mmRem Mag rechambered to 7mmSTW. Guess the woodchucks are in danger....time to work up the 140gr Partition loads for Antelop/deer/etc....
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1479.1 | SNOFS1::HAGARTYD | Mein Leben als Hund | Fri Nov 17 1995 17:55 | 4 | |
Ahhh Gi'day... What a beast!!! Congrats on some fine work. Is it a standard Remington barrel? You might need a spare one if you see too many varmints :-) | |||||
1479.2 | ACISS1::ROGERSR | hard on the wind again | Mon Nov 20 1995 09:46 | 16 | |
It is a standard production, rough as cob, fouling SOB of a barrel. One day of shooting equals two days of cleaning......... I hope that it will eventually lap out. Most others have, but then most of the others were starting life as a Shilen blank. I have 140 rounds through it. Up til this load, the best was 1.5" group. Not too bad, but not exactly great either. BTW, I bought it used. However, the bolt, also blackened, showed almost no marks. By the time I had 100rounds through it, it was well marked. I can only draw the conclusion that it had not much more than a box fired prior to the owner getting it rechambered for 7mmSTW. Why he/she abandoned the the rifle at the gunsmith, I will never know. | |||||
1479.3 | End of the Trail | NQOS01::nqsrv322.nqo.dec.com::Workbench | Tue Jun 18 1996 18:46 | 46 | |
At nearly mid-life on this barrel, all the important work is done. In .0 I detailed the prepartion for each of the loads to follow. Here are the results. Mule Deer/Heavy medium game: 140gr Ballistic Tip, 83gr H1000 = 3380fps, .33MOA Elk/Moose/larger game: 175gr Nosler Partition, 79.5gr H1000 = 3090fps, .73MOA Antelope/lt medium game: 120gr Ballistic Tip, 88gr N170 = .30MOA Varmits: 100gr Sierra HP, 90gr IMR7828 = 3950fps, .29MOA Elk load hits at 2" above point of aim Muley load at .5" above point of aim Lope load at 1" below point of aim varmit load at 1.5" below point of aim. Not bad at all for a hammer forged standard old .650dia sporter BBL. NOTE: disclaimer on all loads. Work up to your own. My database on this wildcat is over 500 rounds, each chrono'd. with the following components. powders bullets AA8700 Speer 130gr SP H870 Nosler 175 part H1000 Nosler 140 part IMR7828 Nosler 140 BalTip Vita N170 Nosler 120 BalTip H5010 Barnes 150 X Speer 145gr boattail Sierra 100gr HP | |||||
1479.4 | NQOS01::nqsrv322.nqo.dec.com::Workbench | Tue Jun 18 1996 18:54 | 18 | ||
Sorry I missed the velocity in the Antelop load: 120gr BalTip, 88gr N170, = 3550fps, .30MOA H1000 actually achieved 3720fps, but with much less precision (1.2MOA) In the initial test with Vita N170, the five rounds loaded with: 85gr, 86gr, 87gr, 88gr, 89gr printed an amazing group of .41MOA. I sorta knew I was on the right track with this powder/bullet. You can go faster with N170 (up to about 3640fps) but the consistancy falls off after 3560fps. I found it quite astounding that all bullets from 3339fps to 3556fps would overlap. Aren't Ballistic Tips just wonderful. |