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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1460.0. "RIFLE INFO NEEDED" by OTOOA::LEBEN () Wed Sep 06 1995 15:59

    Hi folks.  I need some advice on a rifle.  I'm going moose hunting next
    month here in Ontario and I need to purchase a firearm.  A friend
    dropped over last night and during our conversation I mentioned the
    above to him.  He told me he has an 8mm rifle for sale, an older one
    albeit, that he'd let me have for $50.  (That's like $36 U.S.) 
    Unfortunately, I have no idea what an 8mm can do.  The price is
    certainly right, assuming the barrel's not shot out, but can anyone
    tell me for sure if it's good enough for moose.  I already use a rifled
    shotgun with Sabot slugs for deer, so I only need this for moose. 
    Appreciate any insight.
    
    Rick (of the Great White North)
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1460.18mm: > .303 < .338 = .323ABACUS::BIONDIWed Sep 06 1995 16:4417
    Hi Rick,
    	Do you have easy access to any reloading manuals?
    
    	The general description of the caliber at the beginning of each
    section does a quick scan of the history, capabilities and relative
    comparisons to other similar or competing calibers.  This info will be
    good for you to become familiar with the caliber until you get more
    hands on replies here.
    
    	Based on the fact that Sierra makes three softpoint hunting bullets
    for this caliber:  150, 175, 220 grains and that it is placed between
    the .303 (7.7mm) and the .338 (8.59mm) it should be capable of taking a
    moose with no problem.  Whether or not loaded cartridges are readily 
    available at a reasonable price can't be determined from a bullet 
    dealer's merchandise chart.
    
    	Steve
1460.2DAZED AND CONFUSED :>)OTOOA::LEBENThu Sep 07 1995 09:0915
    Hi Steve;
    
    Thanks for your quick response.  However, even if I could get access to
    some reloading manuals, I'm not sure I'd understand them anyways.  I
    can shoot, scout, track, lug, cook, etc., but I'll be the first to tell
    anyone that I don't know anything about balistics.  By the sounds of
    your information, it would appear at first glance that the 8mm should
    do the trick.  I'm going to go over tonight and have a look at it. 
    I'll let you know more about it tomorrow.
    
    Regards,
    
    Rick
1460.3270WIN::LAFOSSEWHEN THE BULLET HITS THE BONE...Thu Sep 07 1995 13:5912
Rick,

I'm assuming your talking about an 8mm Mauser?  If you are, I like to compare
it to say a beefed up 30-30... I've got one myself and while I havn't taken any 
deer with it, I did use it for a few seasons... Factory loads were available 
from Winchester and Remington...  Mine kept some reasonable groups, with
both brands.

While it may not be the flattest shooting caliber available it should have 
plenty of knockdown at close range for moose and doubles nicely for deer.

IMHO, Fra
1460.4Mauser, Mauser, Mauser...OTOOA::LEBENThu Sep 07 1995 17:089
    Thanks for the note, Fra.  I'm not sure whether it's a Mauser or
    something else, but I'll post a note to this effect tomorrow as I'm
    going to have a look-see tonight.
    
    Regards,
    
    Rick
1460.5try firearmsCSC32::J_HENSONDon&#039;t get even, get ahead!Thu Sep 07 1995 17:187
>>                       <<< Note 1460.4 by OTOOA::LEBEN >>>
>>                         -< Mauser, Mauser, Mauser... >-

Have you tried asking this question in the firearms notes conference?
It's foundr::firearms.  You'll probably get more responses there.

Jerry
1460.6A little closer comparison .....SALEM::PAPPALARDOThu Sep 07 1995 17:2915
    
    The easiest way to compare this caliber is the following. 
    
          8mm to 30/06
    
          7mm to .308
    
          6mm to .243
    
        Depending on the distance you think you'll be shooting the rifled
    slug barrel with Sabots should be good out to 100 yards. Also for the
    $50 if the gun is a Mauser you have the means to custom build a gun in
    the future.
    
                                                        Guy
1460.7Be carefulOTOP89::&quot;[email protected]&quot;Thu Sep 07 1995 17:354
Be careful. A buddy of mine had a 8mm Hungarian Mauser. Bloody thing had a 
hair trigger on it like you could not believe. 

Les
1460.8A day late and a dollar short!OTOOA::LEBENFri Sep 08 1995 08:3312
    Many thanks for all your responses.  I went to see the rifle last night
    on my way home, but it would appear that there was some
    mis-communication.  My friend didn't understand that I was interested
    in it, and sold it yesterday morning!  Oh well, as my Grandmother used
    to say; "It wasn't meant to be".  Fortunately, I ran into two other
    chums of mine last night and they both offered to lend me a .30-06 if 
    I get stuck, so it could be worse.
    
    Thanks again,
    
    Rick
1460.9SALEM::PAPPALARDOFri Sep 08 1995 18:1710
    
    re.7
    
          Les,
    
               An easy way to cure that problem is to have a gunsmith
    install a Timney trigger.
    
    
                                                Guy
1460.10Yup, or ...OTOP89::&quot;[email protected]&quot;Tue Oct 31 1995 16:3510
Even better, if you have the cash, which this particular individual did is 
to go out and by a nice brand new .270 Remington pump with a nice new 
Redfield scope and hang the old blunderbuss on the wall after removing the 
fire pin. Which he did, and went to shoot a few moose and deer, much to the 
content of his fellow hunting buddies.

As a foot note we lost him to leukemia last year. We seem to be loosing 
almost one member a year these days. Guess we are all getting older.

Les