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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1432.0. "OFAH call to join Liberal Party" by 58632::BELLONI () Tue Jan 24 1995 21:46

    Fellow Ontarion Hunters and gun owners. The Ontarion Federation of
    Anglers and Hunters is strongly recommending that all Ontario firearms
    owners join the Federal Liberal Party and thus potential influence the
    upcoming gun control showdown. 
    
    I would like to hear from you what you think of this tactic.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Les
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1432.1Let's hear from you Canadians58632::BELLONIWed Jan 25 1995 09:1311
    Hey, come on any of you Canadian noters alive out there? This is
    effecting YOU, so let's hear from you. I am trying to decide whether to
    join the Liberal riding association and attend the meetings and couse a
    general raucous, or whether to scream and yell at the OFAH to change
    thte tactic and get all firearm owners to join the Reform party.
    
    So let's hear from you.
    
    Thanks,
    
    Les
1432.2$$ could be better spent58379::KELLAWAYLorne Kellaway @TROWed Jan 25 1995 09:4821
    I have a serious problem with the OFAH suggesting that its members join
    the Liberal party.  While I have no party ties at this time, I believe
    that it is not in our best interest to have this group suggest that we
    join the Liberals - OFAH should be lobbying the government to punish
    the criminals not the gunowners (sounds familiar, eh?).  The $10 to
    join the Liberals would be better spent (I would hope) by OFAH fighting
    for proper legislation rather than adding to the party's coffers. 
    After the next election, if unfavorable legislation is tabled, will we
    be urged to join the party in power ?  
    
    I think that the Reform party would better reflect the views of
    gunowners but again I think if members are inclined to join a party in
    which to raise the concerns of gun rights, the choice of party should
    be theirs, not OFAH's.
    
    Personally I feel OFAH has crossed a line in this tactic, but since we
    are limited in those associations which lobby for us, I will continue
    to support them however I am going to try to get a letter out
    reflecting my views of this tactic.
    
    Lorne    
1432.3More replies please58632::BELLONIFri Jan 27 1995 14:3232
    Thanks for the response,
    
    My views are basically the same, and I have already send a letter to
    the OFAH. Nevertheless, their idea is somewhat interesting, although
    with the basic complacency affecting the public at large, seems
    unlikely to have a ny major impact. It would be kind of interesting if
    we got off our complacent butts, marched to the local Liberal riding
    association and took over the party.
    
    A few months ago I sent a letter to the OFHA suggesting that they
    organize a stop-buying hunting and fishing licenses activity. This
    could potentially get the attention of the provincial governments, as
    it would be their coffers that would be directly affected. The reply
    that I got was basically that it was too confrontational an approach
    and might possibly back fire. 
    
    My personal view, and this is in talking to a lot of fellow hunters, is
    that in good old Canadian fashion, if the government does bring in
    these new restrictions, they will be ignored much like that last set is
    being ignored. For example, most of the guys I know are not renewing
    their FAC's, since now it costs considerably more than the $10 it used
    to cost. So, as hardly anybody is renewing their FAC's hardly anybody
    is going to register their guns. Much like the tax on cigarettes, once
    it got to the point of being unreasonable, people went and shopped
    elsewhere, the criminal element got a boost and the government had to
    relent and drop the taxes significantly. I find it hard to imagine that
    they would start locking up for four years (proposed minimum second
    offence sentence for possession of unregistered firearm) average Joe 
    Blow's caught moose hunting with an unregistered rifle.
    
    Les
    
1432.460876::HAGARTYDMein Leben als HundTue Jan 31 1995 17:358
Ahhh Gi'day...�

    Isn't it  funny  that  the  people who go on about jail not solving the
    problem ALWAYS want draconian penalties for basically victimless crime?

    I mean a couple of hundred THOUSAND people here probably have magazines
    with  a  capacity  of  GT  5 with a semi-auto, and don't know that they
    could do 5 years for it.