Conference vmsnet::hunting$note:hunting

    
    All of the outdoor catalogs (Cabela's,Gander Mountain,Bass Pro) will
    have these advertised. Before you go out and spend a fairly large 
    amount of cash I would get in touch will the local Animal Control
    Officer or the ASPCA as they would most likely have acces to those
    type of traps. Another way to cure the marking problem is to spray
    ammonia on the areas that it's spraying on. This is also a way to 
    young house hold animals from going the bathroom in your home in the
    same spot. 
    
                                                   Good Luck,
    
                                                      Guy

    
    
      Guy,
    
        I checked out my Cabelas and Gander Mtn books and they didn't have
    any in there. Thanks for the info..........
    
    
    
    /Kevin

    
    I heard a 22-250 works pretty good.
    
    Rick
    

    
    .....re: -1   that was my first choice or my bow. But I live too close
    to folks that could witness the act so I have to do it the humane way.
    I did find a trap at the hardware store today at lunch. They wanted
    $20 to rent one and $47 to buy one. I bought one.......here kitty,
    kitty, kitty........
    
    
    
    thanks for your help,
    
    /Kevin
    
    

    
    
      Kevin,
     
            i know what ya mean about the problem with cat's, people have
    no idea how destructive they are, good thing you dont have carpet where
    this cat is spraying, it would probably need replaced if it got
    sprayed, and that is one smell that is hard to get rid of.
       And when they let the cats run loose they dont realise how many
    birds/squirrels/rabbits they kill. plus how many problems it causes for 
    other people's animals, there is a big yellow cat that has been
    strolling around the fence in my yard, really antagonizing my 2 labs,
    well last saturday afternoon while I was splitting wood I had the dogs 
    out with me, low and behold this cat comes strutting across my yard
    like he owned the joint, Mo spots it and he's all over that cat like he
    stole something, as it turned out mo & Jo put the cat up one of the
    trees in my yard and then they layed down under the tree, I guess they
    figured that sooner or later he's gotta come down.
      I tried the trap this week but he wont go in it, the owner was
    notified, if the owner wont take care of the problem we probably will,
    the dogs go ballistic when this cat comes by to torment them, not only
    does it upset me since I dont enjoy hearing dogs barking at 3 am
    neither does my neighbors either, the wife was complaining about them
    chasing the cat, she said wel what are ya gonna do if they get out and
    chase the cat out on the road and get hit? I said well I dont know
    maybe go see the owner and swat knots on his head faster than he can
    rub'em. she didnt see the humor in my comeback, but I dont know what I
    would do. so its better to fix a potential problem before it becomes
    one.
    
                                                               Lee
    

	If the cat keeps roaming in your yard in the middle of the
	night, upsetting the dogs, get the " BRIGHTEST " motion
	sensitive flood light you can find and aim it at the owners
	bedroom window. Maybe he'll take the hint and keep the cat
	in-doors after being awakened a few times....;-)

	Red

	P.S I like cats..........They taste just like chicken :-)
                                                               
    

    You GUYS ARE JUST SICK!!!
    
    Have a heart trap
    22-.250
    Bows
    "TASTE LIKE CHICKEN"
    
    I can't believe you people......THIS IS A CROCK...
    
    What you need is all reality is a Conibear #6 long spring, baited
    with sardines, and a .22 short.
    
    
    Geezz, don't you know nothing???  :)
    
    
    Jeff

    
    Actually I saw Kevin in the hall and offered him a #220 connibear,
    it works well on cats or so I'm told ;')
    
    
    Walt

	This discussion reminds me of a time when I was running traps for
	'yotes.  This one spot had a lot of 'yotes, but they were very trap
	wise.  Alot of my traps would get dug up.  One set there got a 
	skunk that made the area hard to go back to.  Another set there got
	a wild tom cat.  This animal was fending very well for its self in
	the wild.  It was probably about 30 pounds.  When I first put the
	light on it I thought I had a bobcat worth $$.  When I got closer
	I saw what I had.  In the soft dirt all around it were fresh 'yote
	tracks, lots of them.  This tom was pissed and I soon learned why
	the 'yotes only made tracks around it.  Now I have let dogs out of
	my sets without any problems, but this was another story.  I first
	tried to pen it with a long forked limb.  He ate that thing.  I'm
	sure if he had gotten out of there, I would have been shreaded.  He
	didn't leave me any choice.

    
       Lee,
    
         One of my problems is I have a wood thresh hold and the smell
    has permiated the wood. I may have to replace it, I have also had
    to get rid of my welcome mat. I put a copy of my "license to carry"
    on the door and that didn't work. I wish I lived in the country I
    could use the bow practice. I put the trap out last night and the 
    little bugger didn't show up. I even gave up a good can of tuna
    for him.......here kitty kitty kitty. I wonder if the owner would
    be responsible for his cats actions. I know that if my english
    setters got out of the yard and did something to someone elses
    yard I would be responsible. Maybe I'll keep him after I catch him
    and place an add in the paper just to, you know meet his owners!!!
    
    
    /Will keep you posted
     Kevin
    
    

    
    
      Kevin,
    
       I have heard that pure asprin will uuuhhhhhhh well make them go away
    just put it in burger. how tame is this cat? if its real tame maybe a
    good ole fasion TT treatment will do the trick. if not go to last
    resort. if you go the TT route, well never mind, I am sure some guys
    know what that is.
    
                                                         Lee
    

I have found the only good reason to have a cat!

On a long sea voyage you take a cat.
When you catch fish , you first feed them to the cat.
If the cat dies you dont eat the fish!

Problem is it only works the first time...

I had the same problem with an ole tom cat...
Very trap wise, tried everything to get him into a 
trap.  A combination of fresh fish, water, and catnip
did the trick of course I was able to catch every cat
in the hood. but time was with me.

The cat did a fine job of chewing up the guy at the 
animal shelter, this extended his life a few days until
they were sure the cat was not rabid..  I tried to tell
you the cat was mean....

Joe

    
    As much as I have the same love for cats as most of the rest of you do
    we may be going a little to far with this one. If someone from Soapbox
    or another one of those vocal forums gets wind of this note it may not
    in our best interests. IMHO
    
                                                        Guy

    
    hey--Bro......I'm sure they know it's no-pun-intended.........
    
    Hey...ever play the lawnmower cats game?...(just kidding)
    
    Rick
    

Ahhh Gi'day...�

    Cats here  are  a  pest that are responsible for the extinction of MANY
    species  of  native mammals.  This includes many "pet" cats from houses
    adjoining bush areas.

    The cries  of  "Innocent" from cat lobby (such as the "Cat Club") would
    drown  out  O.J.'s cries of the same.  In spite of similar overwhelming
    evidence.

    We have  a  disease  in  the  wings ready to reduce cat numbers but the
    Animal  Welfare lobby and cat people have been effective in staying its
    introduction (so much for suburban environmentalists).

    Cats outside  of  the control/territory of a possible owner are shot on
    sight. You mightn't like it, but that's the way it is.

Just a note...

	As conservation director for the California Izzac
Walton League, I had the oportunity to work with the US
department of fish and Wild life.  During this time we
were working on an endangered species of bird.  It could
not be determined why the bird was in one cannon but would
not survive in another.  After serveral weeks of searching
we came up with the answer.  Coyote's lived in the cannons
that had ample bird species.  We found that stray cats 
didint live in the cannons with the Coyotes.. This is due
to the fact that Coyotes like to eat cats..  Many cats are found
missing on trash day each week.

Cats are effective predetors and cause extensive dammage
to the natural animal species..

Joe

    
    Regarding the "Soapbox" folks, I have all intentions of taking care
    of this problem in a humane way that is why I invested in a $47 
    have a heart trap. I could have done this a lot cheaper and a lot
    quieter. The problem with our society is that we cannot speak whats
    on our mind without wondering if we put someones nose hair out of
    joint! I ensure all involved that this creature will be turned over
    to the proper authorities. It all reverts back to the owner not
    doing his/her part as a responsible pet owner.
    
    
    As far as an update on the cat situation the little bugger as started
    to spray my front door and my trash cans! It must know that the trap
    is at the back door......trap wise maybe.....hummmm the hunt continues.
    
    
    /Kevin
    

    
    Kevin,
    
    are you sure it's not the Legend doing it to you?
    
    
    Walt

    Kevin,
    
    CCI makes a round called a "CB" in .22 cal, just in case the trap
    doesn't work.
    
    
    Wess