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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1378.0. "Is Field & Stream helping anti's?" by 38114::BING () Mon Aug 22 1994 10:18

    
    I caught a short blurb on ESPN saturday morning about how Field &
    Stream supports a National Hunter Act. Duncan Barnes said you would
    have to accomplish three things. 1. Hunter safety course 2. Show
    proficency with a firearm 3. Show an ability to track wounded game.
    All to paid for by hunters. DB said licenses are fairly cheap so a
    few more dollars wouldn't hurt us.
    
    This stuff sounds good but I'm against it for several reasons. One
    is that we shouldn't put forth any restrictive bills because of an
    already anti-gun movement in Washington. Who knows what kind of crap
    they'd ammend to this.
    
    Next is that hunting licenses aren't really that cheap. In MA it is
    as follows.
    
    Hunting license $12.50
    Fishing   "     $12.50
    Land stamp      $ 5.00
    Turkey permit   $ 5.00
    Bear permit     $ 5.00
    Doe permit      $ 5.00
    State duck stamp$ 5.00*
    Fed duck stamp  $10.00*
    
    *probably more
    
    So you're looking at already @$60 plus more if you trap. That's not
    cheap and now these guys want us to pay more.
    
    Gun safety/use. Good idea but who is going to teach it and make the rules?
    F&S or an anti-gun congress? 
    
    An ability to track game? Good idea. What game? What terrrain? What
    weather cond.? How badly hurt is animal? Lots to look at here.
    
    I think all of these are good idea's but we need to keep the Feds
    out of it. They just cannot be trusted. There is also a reply in
    ::FIREARMS about a National Hunter Safety Act that this could be
    ammended to or vice versa. There is way too much to type in so I'll 
    look for it and try to post it here. If it's true you can prety much 
    kiss hunting good bye.
    
    Walt
                                                                
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1378.1yes and no...57298::LAFOSSEsemi-auto assault crossbows ;^)Mon Aug 22 1994 12:1319
don't forget the $5.10 primitive arms stamp necessary for archery/muzzle-
loader hunting.

still pretty cheap when you think about it...

regarding mandatory hunter safety, in my opinion it can only make the
woods a safer place, and at the same time discourage slobs.

After taking 2 of my daughters last year to a hunter safety course (neither
of which were old enough to be certified, but passed with flying colors), 
i'm all for it being a mandatory thing...  Especially after hearing some of 
the people's comments , general knowledge (or lack thereof) of hunting, 
woodland creature habits, woodsmanship, not to mention balistics 
knowledge...  

It is a scarey thing knowing some of these people have been in the woods
and others were soon to be...

JMHO, Fra
1378.224661::LEFEBVREPCBU Asia/Pacific MarketingFri Aug 26 1994 03:495
    Actually, hunters could gain some badly needed positive press and this 
    could  be a nice pre-emptive measure against legislation filed by the 
    anti movement.
    
    Mark.
1378.3be careful what you wish for38114::BINGFri Aug 26 1994 06:5830
    
    While I can agree that a hunter safety course is an excellent
    idea I just can't agree that the Fed's should be involved. Leave
    it up to the states to do it. An anti-gun congress just passed the
    crime bill, now some folks want to put another restrictive bill
    in front of them. I can gaurentee you they will put even worse
    ammendments to a bill like that. I looked for the Nat'l Hunter
    Safety act in ::FIREARMS ( been looking all week) and can't find
    it. Somepoints by memory are:
    
    1. Pass a Federal Firearms course (then)
    2.Pass a state hunter safety course (then)
    3. Get DAILY permits for where you plan to hunt. (permit good
    only for specific area. Must check in and out with a game warden/cop).
    4. Must be able to call home within 24 hrs if on an extended trip.
    5. Must be able to be home within 36 hrs if on an extended trip.
    
    Those are just a few of the points that I can remember. Do they sound
    far fetched? Are you sitting back saying it will never happen? People
    said the same thing about the Brady Bill too. Remember AL Gores wife
    is EXTREMELY anti hunting, and animal rights groups have been invited
    to the Whitehouse many times. When was the last time the NRA was
    invited? or how about the bill in Arizona that would have all but
    banned all hunitng/trapping in that state. Look at all the bans that
    have come about in recent years on bear and mountain lion hunting.
    Don't think they wouldn't submit trash like this or ammend it to
    another bill and as a compromise say "Well we wanted X but we'll 
    take only y". Then we'll see when/where and how we can hunt.
    
    Walt