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| 1349.1 | How big is that Bear? | MSTIME::BSS::DSMITH | Rock with the DEAD | Fri Feb 11 1994 09:59 | 14 |
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Paul
What type bear are you going to hunt? had a friend that went up
too Alaska this summer and stopped in bar, he asked how many of the
locals carry 44 mags for bear protection, they laughed at him and said
the first they do with 44mag is file off the front sights, that way it
doesn't hurt as much pulling the pistol out of a certain spot!
Dave
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| 1349.2 | flat point | SALEM::MACGREGOR | Waco, a modern day Alamo? | Fri Feb 11 1994 10:34 | 9 |
| Sounds like what you want is a flat point instead of a hollow point. I
think there is an ammuntion manufacturer that makes a 300 grain flat
point. I also believe that there is a 250 grain Full Metal Jacket. I
don't know who makes either. I reload so I don't buy much already made
ammo any more. I use 180 grain hollow points and wouldn't for a minute
hesitate to use them on black bear and I use max loads. Grizzly is
another story. I'd buy a .454 Casull for them or maybe a .50 AE Mag.
Good luck.
Bret
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| 1349.3 | Black Bear | AVALCH::CALDERA | | Fri Feb 11 1994 11:47 | 5 |
| RE:1
Going after Black Bear, Maine, using the .44 as backup. I were going
to Alaska I'd use something I had to drag around behind a 6 by.
Paul
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| 1349.4 | | DNEAST::CURAVOO_GARY | CRUZN II | Sun Feb 13 1994 22:07 | 8 |
| My wife uses a model 94 trapper and I was using (until my 45-70
contender) model 29 Smith for bear. If you will be hunting over bait,
or for that facts dogs, a 44 is more than enough. The shots will
be fairly close. We were using hand loads with semi wadcutters. That
piece of lead would leave one mighty big exit wound and a river of
blood for trailing which never was to far.
gary c
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| 1349.5 | | HLDAR2::SADIN | The easy way is always mined.. | Wed Feb 16 1994 12:50 | 10 |
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Sampson is a custom ammo maker that loads some 300grn monsters in
.44mag specificly for bear. I read the article on them about 2years
ago, and then a couple little follow ups since. I couldn't tell you
what the address or telephone # is.......maybe the NRA could help.
You're a member, correct? Just call one of the number on the back of
your card....they're usually very helpful....
jim
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| 1349.6 | 44 MAG for Grizzly | 3149::FWALSH | | Tue Feb 22 1994 14:48 | 8 |
| There was an article in Sports Afield a while ago on this very subject.
they were asking people that guide and people that live in Alaska about
using the 44 MAG for Grizzly. Their recommendation unanimously was load
the 44 with six bullets shoot the grizzly five times and use the sixth
on yourself. Nuff said!
Fred
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| 1349.7 | Perhaps Hornady 240s or Garretts? | 4BY4::LESLE | Craig Lesle | Tue Feb 22 1994 17:46 | 30 |
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A recent article in Hand Gunning said the factory Hornady 240 grainers
were excellent for blackies over bait and by hounds (close range). The
author seemed to really like the Garrett 310 grain SWC loads (very hard
something like 23 hardness) pushing 1320 fps, but these are expensive,
as much as factory magnum rifle shells, around a dollar a throw. I've
never seen a local supplier for them but their address is;
Garrett Cartridge Co.
Box 178
Chehalis, WA 98532
206-736-0702
Speaking of griz and AK, hoping to get to there this fall with my brother
who is stationed up there now and a resident :). Have not decided if griz
is on the menu yet - can I save enough money for that, too? Plan to use
a .338 as primary and probaby will try something along the lines of a
handloaded 300 gr for the .44 or perhaps these Garrett loads for backup.
Anyone tried these or have experience with the commercially available 300
PSPs - Sierras or Speers?
According to my brother there lots of griz around and encounters are more
common than you might think. A fellow he works with got his camp destroyed
twice by them while sheep hunting last fall - not too picky on what they
consume, they drank his cooking kerosene, ate part of the tent and
cigarettes, but left the filters...
Good luck.
Craig
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| 1349.8 | | HLDAR2::SADIN | slightly unstable | Wed Feb 23 1994 08:02 | 8 |
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>ate part of the tent and cigarettes, but left the filters...
at least they smoke like real men....;*)
jim
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| 1349.9 | Designer Bullets ??? | AVALCH::CALDERA | | Thu Feb 24 1994 17:00 | 24 |
| How did Daniel and Davey do it? I mean harder than hard lead,
jacketed gizzmo, patition, solid copper, grains of this swages of that.
I think I'll cover my self with honey and let the bear eat me. It has
got to be less painful than all this Hi-tech bullet stuff. I am in
Hi-tech, I go on vacation to get away from all that stuff. The more I
read the more I find out I don't know. I did find out that there are a
bunch of companies out there that make special bullets, and what
special ones there are. The only special I used to know about was
.38 Special, thems was the good old days, boy was I dumb. If the
Native Americans at the Little Big horn could see what has been done
to the bow and arrow, they would have left the country rather than
fight. Custer would have been out there with a PC, figuring out what
the best bullet and charge were for the distance and weather
conditions. Lets not even get started on the propper power scope, nor
its country of origin.
Things sure have changed; buying bullets off the rack, how tacky,
designer bullets is the way to go.
Seriously, thanks a lot for all the input, I'll make some calls and
after my hunt which is 6 months away, I'll post the results, if there
is any results.
Paul
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