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Title:The Hunting Notesfile
Notice:Registry #7, For Sale #15, Success #270
Moderator:SALEM::PAPPALARDO
Created:Wed Sep 02 1987
Last Modified:Tue Jun 03 1997
Last Successful Update:Fri Jun 06 1997
Number of topics:1561
Total number of notes:17784

1343.0. "REMINGTON PEERLESS" by MIVAX::VIRGIL () Tue Feb 01 1994 13:30

    Has anyone seen or shouldered the new Remington Peerless
    12-gauge Over/Under shotgun? What did you think? Has anyone
    done any shooting with one?
    
    How much are they? 
    
    I assume they use standard Rem-Chokes, is that true?
    
    I saw the picture/advertisement in the back of the last issue
    of Wildfowl, it looks nice enough.
    
    I'm interested in getting an O/U to shoot this summer and for
    next season, any experiences with the Peerless would be appriciated.
    
    Thanks,
    Michael
    
    
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1343.2I've seen oneTARKIN::AHOHow about some SMOKED SKEET?Wed Feb 02 1994 10:1427

	I handeled one at the World Skeet Shoot in Texas... They had a 26"
	barrel one there... I was very impressed with the fit and finish
	of it expecially the checkering as it was "crisp"... The 26" was
	a little light for my tastes, but I'm used to a 9 1/2 lb skeet
	gun ;-)

	They do use the standard Rem-chokes as I read this in a test report
	in the Shotgun Sports magazine. According to them it's NOT a revamped
	Remington 3200 but there are some similarities inside the
	receiver. They remarked that it felt and mounted like a Remington
	1100.

		Also they said that there may be a Sporting Clays version
	due out in 1994, but if someone from the notesfile went to the
	Shot Show in Dallas they might be able to shed some light on this...

	Wholesale cost I believe is around $900.00 and I think the retail
	was around $1000.00, however this was 1993 prices... According to
	what I've heard they had limited production in 1993 and their stock
	was sold out quickly.

	My opinion is that for the money it's a very resonable shotgun PLUS
	it's made in the USA !

					Mike
1343.1LEDS::AMBERSONWed Feb 02 1994 10:457
    Mike,
    
      Hortons has one.  There priced (I think) around $1200.00.  
    I'll be in there tonight.   If you want give me a call after 6:00 at
    875-8650 and I can tell you more.
    
    Jeff
1343.3ZEKE::STORMTue Feb 08 1994 10:454
    Gee Michael, did you win the lottery or what!?!?!
    
    Mark
    
1343.4MPGS::VIRGILTue Feb 08 1994 12:0819
>    Gee Michael, did you win the lottery or what!?!?!
    
    Well......
    


    No. I have the opportunity to shoot at some AKC hunting tests
    this summer and would prefer to use a gun that could be broke
    while not shooting. I had seen advertisements in Wildfowl and
    Gundog for the Peerless and wanted to find out more about it.
    
    I'm still trying to negotiate this years budget for hunting and
    retriever training.
    
    Michael    
    
    

1343.5LEDS::AMBERSONTue Feb 08 1994 12:148
    Mike,
    
      If you want to gun this summer let me know.  I've been "roped" into
    being the captain for Yankee agin this year.
    
    Jeff
    
    PS  Saw Buck and Karen at the show.
1343.6What will you REALLY use if for ?SALEM::MAZEROLLETue Feb 08 1994 12:1524
    You might want to think out what you will be using it for and ask a few
    extra questions around that intended use. For example, a few years ago
    I bought a Bernadelli 12 ga 3 1/2" to use for duck hunting (primarily).
    Well a while later I got bit by the sporting clay bug and started
    shooting every Sunday and started having problems. I called the Mfg'r
    and they said " we know you don't want to hear this but you but a
    hunting gun and it really wasn't intended to be shot as much as you
    might be". Geeze $1500.+ and I can't use it every day. Well I had it
    fixed (thanks Corky) and bought a Ruger Red Label Sporting clays which
    was made for "every" day shooting. I have fired roughly 3k rounds and
    still smiling. 
    
    I saw a peerless at the Centrum (sportmans show). It looked really nice
    but it had the typical Remington high gloss finish (stock and steel). I
    have owned a R. 870 and a 700 BDL for many years. I have always been a 
    strongfan of Remington (vs say Winchester) but the Peerless didn't do it 
    for me.
    
    
     So, my only advice is know what you want, I thought I did and learned
    the hard way, afterall, you all know how much we all hate to buy extra 
    guns :>)
    
     Don
1343.7MPGS::VIRGILTue Feb 08 1994 13:2630
    >       -< What will you REALLY use if for ? >-


    I intend to use it for a little bit of everything or at least
    everything that I do. I have an 1100 that I've been using for 
    the past 12 years or so. I just got a new barrel so I can use 
    different chokes and feel a little better about shooting steel 
    out of it. It is a great gun, I enjoy hunting with it. I would
    continue to use the 1100 for ducks and geese.
    
    I've shot a few rounds of sporting clays this past year and
    really enjoyed it. I have no intention of shooting competitively.
    If I start shooting sporting clays enough I really want to reload
    my own, easier to collect your spent shells. I also hunt pheasant,
    so I would use the O/U for that as well.
    
    The thing that is appealing to me specifically when shooting at 
    a hunting tests or sporting clays is the ability to break the gun. 
    It makes it real clear if the gun is loaded or unloaded, you can see 
    if there are shells in the chamber. 
    
    It would also be nice to have an heirloom to hand down to my son or
    daughter, but of course I would need to break it in first.
    
    That's the plan,
    Michael
    
    
    
1343.8LEDS::AMBERSONTue Feb 08 1994 13:518
       At hunting tests it is _preferable_ that the guns are either SxS
    or O/U for the reasons Mike indicated.  Once the bird has been shot and
    the dog sent its nice to know that all the guns are clear.  I use
    either a Citori or a GTI when gunning at trials.  When I captain the
    guns I "encourage" that the guns use a shotgun with a break open
    action.  
    
    Jeff
1343.9ZEKE::STORMThu Feb 10 1994 16:426
    Boatless,
    
    It sounds like you will need a ride again come duck season :-)
    
    Mark
    
1343.10MPGS::VIRGILWed Feb 16 1994 11:2813
>    Boatless,
>    
>    It sounds like you will need a ride again come duck season :-)
    
    Mark,
    
    If I got a boat to duck hunt out of, who would you have to
    harass during duck season? You would also miss the opportunity
    to see a real golden retriever work.
    
    Michael

1343.11ZEKE::STORMTue Feb 22 1994 16:295
    I dunno Michael.  If you get that fancy gun and start practicing,
    you may shoot to good to qualify as an acceptable passenger for me :-)
    
    Mark,
    
1343.12My calling can scare them away too!SPA::HUSTONWed Feb 23 1994 09:0110
    
   > I dunno Michael.  If you get that fancy gun and start practicing,
   > you may shoot to good to qualify as an acceptable passenger for me :-)
    
    Gee Mark, if you are looking for balast for the duck boat and the
    only qualification is poor shooting, give me a call, I can miss with
    the best of them :-)
    
    --Bob
    
1343.13Peerless- made in USA?20259::MILLERSat Apr 02 1994 13:2511
    
    	Getting back a bit to the original Peerless note, I am wondering
    	if anyone has in fact seen or has more knowledge on the sporting
    	clays version.  I am interested primarily for sporting clays.
    	By the way, I did call Lew Hortons to check out a rumor that
    	Remington was having someone in Europe make the Peerless for them.
    	The salesperson at Hortons could not find a place of manufacture
    	on either the barrel or receiver. As best as I can tell on all
    	their other shotguns/rifles they have Ilion NY stamped.  Does
    	anyone know, in fact, if Remington is making this gun themselves
    	in the states?
1343.14American made Remington Peerless.18889::VIRGILTue Apr 05 1994 10:4523
    re .13
    
    Well, I received the Remington catalog a few weeks ago 
    that describes all their products. In the section describing
    the Peerless it states:
    
    "While there are many fine over and under shotguns on the market
    today, nothing stacks up to the all-new, American made Remington
    Peerless(tm)."
    
    Since I placed the original note I've been able to shoulder a Peerless.
    It is real nice, real handsome, pulls up nice and it is light, compared
    to my 1100. I shouldered a Peerless with a 28" barrel that weighed 
    7 3/8 lbs. 
    
    I'm sold. I just need to start saving my allowance.
    
    If you would like to get a Remington catalog you can call Remington
    consumer information at (302) 773-5291.
    
    Michael
    
1343.15Peerless is U.S./Ilion made20248::MILLERTue Apr 05 1994 12:0411
    
    	I was able to confirm with Remington that the Peerless is
        manufactured in the U.S in Ilion, NY.  This information via
    	Remington Consumer Service at 302-773-5399.  I understand Lew
    	Hortons in Framingham does have a field model in stock on the 
    	shelf.  The above consumer information number did not have any
    	information as to when the Sporting Clays would be availble. She
    	did say the backlog on the Peerless field model was about six
        months.
    
    	Walt